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incognito | Sun 29-Jul-18 09:00 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#71332, "Getting a cursed rot death weapon from a mob"
Edited on Sun 29-Jul-18 09:00 AM
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Is it even possible to get a noremove, rot death weapon from a mob?
If so, how would you do it? Can you make a mob walk to a healer and pay to have its weapon uncursed? Does a boiled leather shield really work against a noremove weapon?
Can a paladin's force of will strip it?
Anything else? Grease? Strength loss? (But what if it is then no drop?)
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FWIW...,
Twist,
30-Jul-18 12:00 PM, #5
Harumph,
Saagkri,
30-Jul-18 12:38 PM, #6
Well...,
Twist,
30-Jul-18 04:20 PM, #9
Well, well, well...,
Saagkri,
30-Jul-18 10:45 PM, #10
RE: Well...,
robdarken_,
31-Jul-18 07:03 AM, #11
I'd like to report,
incognito,
30-Jul-18 03:29 PM, #7
Thanks...,
Twist,
30-Jul-18 04:13 PM, #8
Pure of heart. Is this a regular edge?,
Confused lightwalker. (Anonymous),
01-Aug-18 01:24 PM, #12
RE: Pure of heart. Is this a regular edge?,
incognito,
01-Aug-18 08:10 PM, #13
Weaponbreaker to disarm...,
Saagkri,
29-Jul-18 07:50 PM, #3
RE: Weaponbreaker to disarm...,
incognito,
30-Jul-18 12:13 AM, #4
RE: Getting a cursed rot death weapon from a mob,
Kalageadon,
29-Jul-18 09:41 AM, #1
RE: Getting a cursed rot death weapon from a mob,
incognito,
29-Jul-18 10:02 AM, #2
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Saagkri | Mon 30-Jul-18 12:38 PM |
Member since 17th Jun 2014
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#71344, "Harumph"
In response to Reply #5
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No offense Twist, but when something is mechanically possible using skills/spells/talismans/wands/scrolls/magical items IC, then it really takes someone out of character to then try to discern what the coder/author might have intended 10-20 years ago and alter their behavior accordingly.
I can understand fixing said issue if it came to your attention and you knew the intention of said area author, but dinging someone for not properly divining intent? That pretty much is telling the players that innovation and thinking outside the box with the knowledge we've accrued over years of play is against the rules.
I've never gotten such a weapon that I can recall, but if I put together a team to weaponbreak/stoneshatter a weapon, got a mind control thief to make the mob quaff a potion of ashes to flame (to change it from good to evil), then have the mob try to wield the -Evil weapon so it zaps him and he drops it, then use my fist of stone so I can pick it up without getting electrocuted until I could ground the weapon on the spike of ages, I'd expect a reward if anything.
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Saagkri | Mon 30-Jul-18 10:45 PM |
Member since 17th Jun 2014
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#71348, "Well, well, well..."
In response to Reply #9
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That sounds awesome! But, I'd agree in that case it is pure buggery and if anyone exploited it (especially on another char), they'd be worthy of a couple dings.
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incognito | Mon 30-Jul-18 03:27 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#71345, "I'd like to report"
In response to Reply #5
Edited on Mon 30-Jul-18 03:29 PM
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The lightwalker edge that allows the requesting of such weapons.
Pure of heart.
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#71350, "Pure of heart. Is this a regular edge?"
In response to Reply #7
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Could not find it on edge list or discuss its prerequisites.
Reward only edge?
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incognito | Wed 01-Aug-18 08:10 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#71356, "RE: Pure of heart. Is this a regular edge?"
In response to Reply #12
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Think it might be.
I only know it exists because some character apparently used it to get a weapon that kills tiamat easily.
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Saagkri | Sun 29-Jul-18 07:50 PM |
Member since 17th Jun 2014
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#71340, "Weaponbreaker to disarm..."
In response to Reply #0
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Then you need to steal it. If it's no_drop, then you're really in a bind.
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incognito | Mon 30-Jul-18 12:13 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#71342, "RE: Weaponbreaker to disarm..."
In response to Reply #3
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Ah! Forgot breaking a weapon isn't a problem these days.
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Kalageadon | Sun 29-Jul-18 09:41 AM |
Member since 23rd Oct 2003
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#71333, "RE: Getting a cursed rot death weapon from a mob"
In response to Reply #0
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To the best of my knowledge it is not possible to do without killing the mob, meaning the weapon will rot. That is, if it is truly no-remove. If it is no-disarm, then unconventional methods will work, i.e. grease or other attacks that aren't disarm based, unless it's also no-drop. No drop weapons can not hit the ground from any means that I can think of once picked up, or in this case, on the original mob.
The most important thing to remember is that there are multiple affects to consider, no-remove, no-drop, no-disarm, each are different and only the first two are considered curses. So in your other case, two affects could possible be removed by remove curse but the mob also needs to be trusting the healer and as far as I can recall that makes this nearly impossible.
Lastly, the shield of boiled leather... I'm not sure but I do not think it has the ability to snatch a no-remove or no-drop weapon but can steal a no-disarm weapon.
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incognito | Sun 29-Jul-18 10:02 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#71335, "RE: Getting a cursed rot death weapon from a mob"
In response to Reply #1
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Just thought of something else.
Kotegaeshi could remove a 2h no remove weapon, or an off hand one, into the inventory. Wouldn't get you past a nodrop challenge though.
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