This time I wanted to see how hasted from bloodthirst dual wielding sword spec giant does in melee. He marshals and I thirst at the same time. He then outmelees both in defense, and offense. He has a lot of dam redux but note I am using two very high average iron swords.

One important thing which this confirms is that he is getting more attacks than I am. He is using a single weapon. He has third attack. I am dual wielding. I have fourth attack. I have enhanced reactions. Nonetheless he gets more attacks per round than I do. That just doesn't make sense to me.

I also wanted to see how much lag, if any, various moves cost him. Pretty much none, and confirmed his ability to push in a specific direction is correct, and unfailing. He also is able to flee and return magically fast, but that's not a class skill I don't think.

I also used lavasurge so the damage from the felar's weapon was likely small, but the claw attacks were same as always.

1183hp 304m 1119mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 8 AM
Erhiadkeb whirls a shaft of pure energy to strike you before you can react!
You yell 'Help! Erhiadkeb is batting me!'
Erhiadkeb's quick strike decimates you!
Erhiadkeb is in perfect health.

1155hp 304m 1119mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 8 AM
Erhiadkeb parries your slash.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash EVISCERATES you!
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash maims you!
Erhiadkeb is in perfect health.

1076hp 304m 1119mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 8 AM
Erhiadkeb raises a shaft of pure energy on high, and shouts an inspiring cry!
Erhiadkeb is in perfect health.

1076hp 304m 1119mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 8 AM call blood
Your senses dull as an overwhelming urge for blood rushes through your body!
Erhiadkeb is in perfect health.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb closes the gap in his defense with a quick spin of his staff.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Your slash *** DEVASTATES *** Erhiadkeb!
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
Erhiadkeb has some small but disgusting cuts.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
You drive Erhiadkeb's shocking smash back with your connecting blow.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
Erhiadkeb has some small but disgusting cuts.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM drive w
You failed to drive Erhiadkeb.
Erhiadkeb has some small but disgusting cuts.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
You get in one more shot on Erhiadkeb as he flees.
Your parting blow devastates Erhiadkeb!
Erhiadkeb has fled!
MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD!!!
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** the felar chief!
The felar chief has a few scratches.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
The felar chief executes a controlled overhead attack with a flaming bardiche.
The felar chief's chop scratches you.
The felar chief has a few scratches.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
Erhiadkeb whirls a shaft of pure energy to strike you before you can react!
You dimly note through your hazy senses that you are being attacked.
Erhiadkeb's quick strike scratches you.
You parry the felar chief's whirling flames.
You dodge the felar chief's claw.
You parry the felar chief's whirling flames and return an attack of your own.
Your slash *** DEVASTATES *** the felar chief!
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** the felar chief!
You retreat from your attack before the felar chief's thrust of his polearm.
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** the felar chief!
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
The felar chief has some small but disgusting cuts.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM ber
ber

Erhiadkeb whirls a shaft of pure energy to strike you before you can react!
Erhiadkeb's quick strike scratches you.
The felar chief has some small but disgusting cuts.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM hit erh

You parry the felar chief's whirling flames.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
The felar chief sends someone sprawling with a powerful bash.
The felar chief's bash hits Garrakor.
The felar chief kicks Garrakor while he's down!
The felar chief's vicious attack EVISCERATES Garrakor!
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** the felar chief!
Your slash *** DEVASTATES *** the felar chief!
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash and return an attack of your own.
Your slash decimates Erhiadkeb!
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
You dodge Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
Garrakor steps out of the shadows.
The felar chief is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM Your pulse races as you are consumed by rage!
Erhiadkeb whirls a shaft of pure energy to strike you before you can react!
The impact deadens a nerve, which tingles with a distant numbness.
Erhiadkeb's quick strike scratches you.
The felar chief is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
Erhiadkeb whirls a shaft of pure energy to strike you before you can react!
Erhiadkeb's quick strike scratches you.
The felar chief is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
You dodge the felar chief's whirling flames.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
You knock the felar chief's claw harmlessly to the side.
Your slash *** DEVASTATES *** the felar chief!
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** the felar chief!
The felar chief keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** the felar chief!
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
The felar chief is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM You get a little madder.
The felar chief is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM You start aiming at Erhiadkeb.
Erhiadkeb whirls a shaft of pure energy to strike you before you can react!
The blow pushes you off balance, and Erhiadkeb moves in to continue his assault.
Erhiadkeb's quick strike scratches you.
Erhiadkeb has some small but disgusting cuts.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM flur
You start a vicious series of attacks with your swords.
Your flurry devastates Erhiadkeb!
Erhiadkeb partially parries your attack, but you still get through.
Your flurry decimates Erhiadkeb!
Your flurry maims Erhiadkeb!
Erhiadkeb partially parries your attack, but you still get through.
Your flurry maims Erhiadkeb!
Erhiadkeb partially parries your attack, but you still get through.
Your flurry decimates Erhiadkeb!
Erhiadkeb partially parries your attack, but you still get through.
Your flurry devastates Erhiadkeb!
Erhiadkeb partially parries your attack, but you still get through.
Your flurry devastates Erhiadkeb!
Your flurry *** DEVASTATES *** the felar chief!
Erhiadkeb is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
You dodge the felar chief's whirling flames.
You stop the felar chief's claw with a solid blow.
You parry the felar chief's whirling flames.
Garrakor is blinded by the dirt in his eyes!
The felar chief's kicked dirt grazes Garrakor.
Erhiadkeb parries your slash.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** Erhiadkeb!
You get in one more shot on Erhiadkeb as he flees.
Your parting blow maims Erhiadkeb!
Erhiadkeb has fled!
MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD!!!
Your slash *** DEVASTATES *** the felar chief!
The felar chief is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
You knock the felar chief's whirling flames aside before it comes near you.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
You parry the felar chief's whirling flames.
You parry the felar chief's claw and return an attack of your own.
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** the felar chief!
The felar chief keeps you at bay with his polearm.
The felar chief keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Your slash misses the felar chief.
The felar chief is gushing blood.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
Erhiadkeb closes his eyes with a look of concentration for a moment.
A soft golden light shines from Erhiadkeb's wounds.
The felar chief is gushing blood.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
Garrakor has fled!
Garrakor leaves south.
The felar chief is gushing blood.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
You parry the felar chief's whirling flames.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
Your slash *** DEVASTATES *** the felar chief!
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Your slash does UNSPEAKABLE things to the felar chief!
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** the felar chief!
The felar chief is writhing in agony.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
Erhiadkeb closes his eyes with a look of concentration for a moment.
A soft golden light shines from Erhiadkeb's wounds.
The felar chief is writhing in agony.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
You parry the felar chief's whirling flames.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
Charging forward, the felar chief loses his balance and falls when you avoid him.
The felar chief's bash scratches you.
Your slash *** DEVASTATES *** the felar chief!
Your slash *** DEVASTATES *** the felar chief!
The felar chief keeps you at bay with his polearm.
The felar chief is convulsing on the ground.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM dirt erh
Your kicked dirt misses Erhiadkeb.
Erhiadkeb yells 'Die, Grord! You dirty fool!'
The felar chief is convulsing on the ground.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 9 AM
Your sense of calm dissipates.
The felar chief is convulsing on the ground.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM
Erhiadkeb strikes you firmly with a shaft of pure energy, taking you off balance.
Erhiadkeb's maneuver scratches you.
The force and timing of Erhiadkeb's blow pushes you into The Gates to the Streets of Anguish!
The Gates to the Streets of Anguish


With arms the size of trees, an enormous dwarf struts around yelling
challenges.
MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD!!!
Orumous the Strong parries your slash.
Orumous the Strong is in perfect health.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM
You parry Orumous the Strong's slice.
Orumous the Strong sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
Orumous the Strong's bash scratches you.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Orumous the Strong parries your slash.
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** Orumous the Strong!
Your slash *** DEVASTATES *** Orumous the Strong!
Orumous the Strong has a few scratches.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM retreat s

You parry Orumous the Strong's slice.
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** Orumous the Strong!
Orumous the Strong dodges your slash.
Orumous the Strong dodges your slash.
Orumous the Strong parries your slash.
Orumous the Strong has a few scratches.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM You begin planning a retreat.
Orumous the Strong has a few scratches.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM
Orumous the Strong's slice scratches you.
Orumous the Strong's slice scratches you.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Orumous the Strong dodges your slash.
Your slash *** DEMOLISHES *** Orumous the Strong!
Orumous the Strong has a few scratches.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM
You make a hasty retreat.
The Breaching of the Walls of the Ostalagiah Ruins


(White Aura) (Body of Stone) Erhiadkeb is here.
A felar stands here, his face looking haggard by the burden of leadership.
MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD!!!
Erhiadkeb yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Grord!'
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
The felar chief yells 'You wish a game of cat and mouse, Grord? I assure you, I'll win!'
You parry the felar chief's whirling flames.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
You dodge the felar chief's claw.
Erhiadkeb is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM
You parry the felar chief's whirling flames.
You parry the felar chief's claw.
Erhiadkeb parries your slash.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
Erhiadkeb is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM flur

You get in one more shot on Erhiadkeb as he flees.
Your parting blow devastates Erhiadkeb!
Erhiadkeb has fled!
MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD!!!
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Your slash does UNSPEAKABLE things to the felar chief!
The felar chief is DEAD!!
You receive 0 experience points (40% bonus).
The felar chief's severed head plops on the ground.
A bandit's robe's illusion is broken and fades away.
Rear-claw extensions's illusion is broken and fades away.
You get a circlet of cold steel from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get a fur-lined poncho from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get a brown-furred cloak from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get a pair of spiked gauntlets from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get a wooden ring with a black opal from the corpse of the felar chief.
A flaming bardiche: you can't carry that many items.
You get a gold coin from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get 6 silver coins from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get 12 copper coins from the corpse of the felar chief.
The gods give you 18 copper coins for your sacrifice of the corpse of the felar chief.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM
MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD! MORE BLOOD!!!
Erhiadkeb yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Grord!'
Erhiadkeb parries your slash.
Erhiadkeb is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM
Erhiadkeb whirls a shaft of pure energy to strike you before you can react!
Erhiadkeb's quick strike scratches you.
Erhiadkeb is covered with bleeding wounds.

0hp 0m 0mv 27100tnl (-23.18%) civilized 10 AM
Erhiadkeb whirls a shaft of pure energy to strike you before you can react!
Erhiadkeb's quick strike scratches you.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Erhiadkeb deflects your slash with his defensive spin.
Your slash misses Erhiadkeb.
Your slash devastates Erhiadkeb!
You parry Erhiadkeb's shocking smash.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
You are incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.
Erhiadkeb's shocking smash scratches you.
You have been KILLED!!

You have died, but the Carrion Fields are not finished with you yet!
Your soul is returned to the realms in the form of a ghost.
You will return to your corporeal state in a short while.
Be careful, for even a ghost should fear some dangers!

Like I said I expect this to be the last log showing all this off. You imms don't want to fix what's obviously broken, that's your call.

Oh and for those of you throwing shade, I die all the time. I am fine with it. You don't need all the things these skills seem to have to do that. And I can avoid him all I want, I never need fight him at all if I don't want. But where's the fun in that? Point is, he has all upside and no downside. None of his skills comes with any drawbacks, at all. He can open with things but has no lag. Not one of these skills seems to have any lag at all. Cranial is two rounds, pincer is three rounds, boneshatter is two rounds. Bash is two rounds. He can open, he can lag, he can (stack) maledictions, he can push you out of a room, all that, with no more than a round lag, and most with even less, just pulse lag, and bat not even that. That just seems wrong. Everyone's skills have lag or other drawbacks (I'm not even talking about bloodthirst which makes any berserker meat for a smart opponent).

That's it.

Noob. Also try to hit your opponent instead of mobs

There are some builds that will just pwn you no matter what you do. That’s just how it is.

Just be glad there’s not an Imperial Venom Shaman you have to deal with or a bored orc chief with cutoff, spinebreaker, and tons of blood.

These builds are so brutal on Battle that you’re happy to see the Scion Conjie, because at least they have downtime before they can gaunt you to some #### location.

You may have uncovered another build that is the rock to Battle’s scissors. Good job? If you want to feel better about everything go bash, bash, flurry some thief and check out the other side of the coin.

In my experience, this situation is much like thirsting villagers or trancing assassins. I had a time where I was on the water as a Gator, pumped myself up with ABS, accelerate, other preps, had about 1200 hp and still lost to a tribunal storm paladin. But on the flip side, I also killed him in 3 rounds when I caught him a different time and he didn't actively have all those skills going. In fact, it was so quick of a death that I found myself simply astounded at how fast and easy it was.

In my a OPINION, the skill set that they have can certainly be too powerful. It's borderline OP because I don't personally think that any combo should ever leave another race/class combo feeling like they can't win. In this case, the flaw in the technique is admittedly small, but it's still there.

Same question was posed when they made it where offhand could parry, boosted dex builds, changed Battle's Blood Thirst, introduced legacies, introduced shaman paths i.e. venoms, assassin throws, changed edges, standardized a threshold for how shifter forms are "balanced" by making water forms comparable in strength to land forms even with the Huge area use limitation, changed orc bloodskins, and many, many more. So the question is, should it be changed? Maybe... but there are so many aspects of the game that are and have changed over the years, that the IMMs have to carefully weigh the cost of fixing an ability that afflicts a small percent of the game, or one that afflicts a large one.

I still have my sore spot about water shifters but still think the IMMs do an unbelievable job at trying to do what is right and will continue to defer to them in these situations.. or at least until I finally get around to applying to the staff.

, imms don't hear players

just wait until Twist will play paladin/champion

Than bat. I’ve had this conversation many times with others that have played champ pallies, and in every convo it is agreed that bat is alright but Marshall Rally is the real bread and butter of the champ pally. You have to treat it similar to assassin trance in that when you see it go off you want to back off and wait a tic before engaging again. The benefits are strong but short lived, so throwing the kitchen sink at the champ is not a winning strat. Maledicts that force their weapon to drop are likely the best way to beat them, because once you can’t wield something it’s gtfo or gg. I can see where it might seem unwinnable, but like any class you have to recognize where they are strong and play around that if possible.

Bloodthirsting in this particular case seems to have done you in. As soon as he realized that he recognized where YOUR power was and played around it, and it is a matchup that doesn’t favour you to start.

A MARAN is summoning neutral mobs to stand in his way and fight for him. Wait...a PALADIN is doing that. Putting innocents in harms way..man that's pretty ####ty. I wouldn't even be concerned with bat, but his stellar #### "rp".

Keep up the good work.

he has "shove" skill now !

Well equiped paladin with stoneform+aura+shield cannot beat you in combat and has to summon npcs and use maneuver to buy himself time to heal while you fight npcs. And you don't waste time preparing, beating him and still cry?

>Well equiped paladin with stoneform+aura+shield cannot beat
>you in combat and has to summon npcs and use maneuver to buy
>himself time to heal while you fight npcs. And you don't waste
>time preparing, beating him and still cry?

No. You misread.

He does not need to summon anyone, he does it just to be sure.

As you see in the log, and the comment pointing it out, he wields one weapon, and only has third attack, while I wield two weapons, and have fourth attack, but he gets more attacks per round than I do, consistently, and he hits me more than I hit him, consistently. If we both just stopped typing and watched automelee without any commands, he'd win. Add in bat and I am lagged and maledicted.

So no, you're mistaken.

They are his kill sealing ability against a dolt who can't refrain from bloodthirsting.

I know you are Murphy and you probably can't help it but please stop trolling. You know you're just being silly.

As written, the point is no, he does better offense and better defense, despite wielding only one weapon, no fourth attack, no enhanced reactions. Better melee both in offense, defense, and abilities, all with no lag whatsoever. That's the point.

Some things will beat you no matter what, but will lose to another build. It's how CF is.

But he cannot seal the kill -- you are sealing your own death by thirsting against a summoner.

Really, please stop trolling. This is all part of the bat issue which lags. He seals just fine.

NT

But for the record you are a fire giant. Even as a sword spec your defenses are #### compared to elves of any melee class.


I will throw out that paladins have more to their builds than just there spec that can affect their offense/defense.


You picked a narrow build. Those it beats it beats hard but you sacrificed broad competitiveness in your build. This happens to be a character you matchup poorly against. I have fought over a dozen different champion paladins and honestly they aren’t even the toughest flavor of paladin. They are pretty damn vulnerable if you get weapons out of their hands and there are exceedingly few cursed polearm a and staffs, as well as exceedingly few light ones. If you were an assassin or a spear/mace warrior you would have a drastically different experience.

You're missing the point, as many others seem to be as well. The point, again, is that nobody else has abilities that do all that without drawbacks or lag, and nobody else I know can have more attacks per round, wielding a single weapon, and with only 3rd attack, while lagging and maledicting every round, sometimes more than once a round, than someone dual wielding two weapons that has fourth attack and enhanced reactions.

Not to mention that those attacks hit more often, despite a defensive skill such as flourintine.

I don't mind losing, do it all the time. That doesn't change all the things this does (including the never-fail pushing out of a room, in a targeted direction, and that all these things are combat openers).

He could be three people ganging you down and there isn't anti-gank code in place.

Suck it up buttercup.

That just happened. Exactly.

As I pointed out before, some paladins might have boosts to their offense and defense. If you still don’t understand see help files on virtues.

Giant sword specs tank poorly, I just played one where even with haste, imperial defense, and perfected everything relevant I tanked like a bag of bricks (against people who didn’t have augmented offense).

Rally/Marshall do help land a lot of attacks as long as you sit there and let them hit you. Bat can lag but it’s not even as reliable as trip so you can walk away reliably. Now bat plus eagle staff plus lash belt is a bit tougher but you don’t generally balance a class with the assumption that someone reliably has two pieces of very in demand (both limit 2) gear. And even then you can still just flee more often than not.


As for lots of attacks landing, have you ever fought a monk, high dex sword/dagger warrior, or offensive shape shifter?


Maybe bat could use a tweak but if the general consensus in imm land is that trance/throw is in an ok spot you have mt Everest to climb to say champions need tweaked in any kind of significant way.

> he wields one weapon, and only has third attack, while I wield two weapons, and have fourth attack, but he gets more attacks per round than I do

What makes you think you should get more attacks?

My only point in asking that rhetorical question: there's more to # of attacks than # of weapons wielded and the 2nd/3rd/4th attack skills.

I will grant that this matchup is really bad one for you. It sucks when a skilled player is playing a class that yours don't match up well against and your respective roles/cabals/etc. are such that he's able to constantly goad you into fighting him.

I am not sure I understand, of course if you dual wield and have fourth attack you get more attacks than single wield with only three attacks.

Also: enhanced reactions.

>I am not sure I understand, of course if you dual wield and
>have fourth attack you get more attacks than single wield with
>only three attacks.

Except...not. As your log shows.

You've chosen a set of skills and decided, arbitrarily, that they should guarantee you more melee attacks than him. Why?

You have some melee-enhancing skills that he doesn't have. He has some melee-enhancing skills that you don't have. Why should your skills trump his?

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy!

But what if he really, really doesn't like that he gets more attacks? Can you guys change it then?

I should add: he may actually have a point, in that it may not actually make sense for Champion paladin to get more attacks than giant sword guy.

But, if so, it's not specifically because giant warrior guy is wielding two weapons, has 4th attack and enhanced reactions and the paladin doesn't.

but what if enhanced reactions is 100%??




jk obviously.............

Why don't you just create another account with Thaedan name? Every time I read your posts I can't stop thinking of how you must be suffering when you want to modify your post but can't as it gonna reveal true account name.. Also I think you could write more nice posts but this required type more 'Thaedans' in this 'Anonymously post as'.. Nobody cares about you but me, dude I feel your pain!

NT

No auto attack.

No lack of self-awareness.

Haste, +dam and extra attacks and zero penalty. Sheeeeit. That’s sweet. It’s gonna be like the new throw. Here come a zillion champions.

And everyone is bitching about bat. Seems like they need to be bitching about this!

Props to this guy for showing how awesome it can be.

NT

Because that would really be OP ;P

Try lowering his str so he can't wield a staff.

Cheers.

EDIT: you even full-looted him, you bastard:

The felar chief's severed head plops on the ground.
A bandit's robe's illusion is broken and fades away.
Rear-claw extensions's illusion is broken and fades away.
You get a circlet of cold steel from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get a fur-lined poncho from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get a brown-furred cloak from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get a pair of spiked gauntlets from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get a wooden ring with a black opal from the corpse of the felar chief.
A flaming bardiche: you can't carry that many items.
You get a gold coin from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get 6 silver coins from the corpse of the felar chief.
You get 12 copper coins from the corpse of the felar chief.