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KlaakTue 22-Apr-08 10:11 PM
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#21183, "observation"


          

just curious, how does a level 22 character go through all of aran'gird except for the palace, looking at EVERYTHING, and only come out with 705 observation, and no exploration?


Your guildmaster will be pleased to hear of your keen observations. You have earned 705 experience points this session.
Your keen observation has improved your ability at improved consider!
You feel a sudden rush of insight into Attune!

Awaiting the hour of reprisal, your time slips away...
--- Disconnected on Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 10:01 PM ---



Klaak

  

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Reply I'm actually wondering..., Twist, 22-Apr-08 10:35 PM, #1
     Reply very carefully, Klaak, 22-Apr-08 10:50 PM, #2
          Reply Interesting., Odrirg, 23-Apr-08 01:24 AM, #3
          Reply RE: very carefully, Zulghinlour, 23-Apr-08 01:28 AM, #4
          Reply Rofl. You couldn't do that today, incognito, 23-Apr-08 04:05 AM, #5
               Reply A thief with gentlewalk could explore nearly everywhere..., Tac, 23-Apr-08 08:55 AM, #6
               Reply RE: A thief with gentlewalk could explore nearly everyw..., incognito, 23-Apr-08 09:50 AM, #7
               Reply Mine was more a general point., Tac, 23-Apr-08 11:34 AM, #9
                    Reply I think I get your point, incognito, 23-Apr-08 06:11 PM, #11
                         Reply Urmm, I'll backtrack on that, incognito, 30-Apr-08 03:19 AM, #15
               Reply Gentle walk angered me, Amortis, 29-Apr-08 04:52 PM, #14
               Reply RE: Rofl. You couldn't do that today, Isildur, 23-Apr-08 09:59 AM, #8
                    Reply RE: Rofl. You couldn't do that today, Odrirg, 23-Apr-08 01:50 PM, #10
                         Reply STOP TAKING GRAATCH'S MOTIF. NT, Scrimbul, 23-Apr-08 08:58 PM, #12
                         Reply How'd your date with Uwe Boll go?, GinGa, 23-Apr-08 11:25 PM, #13

TwistTue 22-Apr-08 10:35 PM
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#21184, "I'm actually wondering..."
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Edited on Tue 22-Apr-08 10:35 PM

          

How a level 22 character goes through all of aran'gird?

  

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KlaakTue 22-Apr-08 10:46 PM
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#21185, "very carefully"
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Edited on Tue 22-Apr-08 10:50 PM

          

I suppose if you want to get technical, it wasn't ALL in the sense that I didn't go through the palace, didn't bother trying to peek at the big demon, and didn't wander TOO far out into the underdark part of the aran'gird mines (so I didn't get to look at the spirit dragon yet either), but I did go through all of the city (minus the palace, assassin, and demon), and looked at all the NPCs there (not the captain either, obviously). That includes all the citizens, blacksmiths, slaves, gate guards, both lieutenants, and even the dwarf captain and his team of infiltrators. I also looked at every keyword in every room I passed through, even looking inside any hidden containers that might be there. Still, only 705 obs and 0 exploration. I was not a ghost at any time for any of this.

EDIT: If it's any confirmation, I've also been through all of organia, and kteng's.

One of my previous characters was the level 20-something mage that prayed to Twist from Thar-acacia, too, if that's any indication. I remember you were a little surprised to find me praying from there.

  

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OdrirgWed 23-Apr-08 01:24 AM
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#21186, "Interesting."
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I understand how a 20 something can explore both aran and organia.


But ktengs, I happen to know you have to do something a lvl 20 CAN'T do in order to get into that place.

have help?

  

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ZulghinlourWed 23-Apr-08 01:28 AM
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#21187, "RE: very carefully"
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>I suppose if you want to get technical, it wasn't ALL in the
>sense that I didn't go through the palace, didn't bother
>trying to peek at the big demon, and didn't wander TOO far out
>into the underdark part of the aran'gird mines (so I didn't
>get to look at the spirit dragon yet either), but I did go
>through all of the city (minus the palace, assassin, and
>demon), and looked at all the NPCs there (not the captain
>either, obviously). That includes all the citizens,
>blacksmiths, slaves, gate guards, both lieutenants, and even
>the dwarf captain and his team of infiltrators. I also looked
>at every keyword in every room I passed through, even looking
>inside any hidden containers that might be there. Still, only
>705 obs and 0 exploration. I was not a ghost at any time for
>any of this.

I think you answered your own question. You didn't really see anything of note, or go anywhere special.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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incognitoWed 23-Apr-08 04:05 AM
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#21190, "Rofl. You couldn't do that today"
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Isildur is right about k'tengs. You can't do it all at level 20. Also, I can pretty much guarantee you didn't do it all at level 20 even before. Knowing it as well as I do, there are certain bits you really don't want to be seeing. e.g. You know what's on the other side of that door on the south side the hall, with faces pushing through?

Besides that, it sounds to me as if you are abusing ghost state to get into places and try to get exp for edges. Imms, could I suggest that lowbies that die in explore areas just have to wait for their stuff to come back to them, and live with the risk that someone gets to it first and loots?

  

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TacWed 23-Apr-08 08:55 AM
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#21193, "A thief with gentlewalk could explore nearly everywhere..."
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only having to fear greet progs. At least from my understanding of the skill... So it certainly is possible at very low levels. Also, creep + pass door would get you into Aran'gird at level 19 and let you look around. Phase door at 28 for conjies would allow some careful exploration. Sneak hide on an assassin/thief... etc. etc.

It's doable.

  

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incognitoWed 23-Apr-08 09:50 AM
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#21194, "RE: A thief with gentlewalk could explore nearly everyw..."
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A thief with gentlewalk could not go through Kteng's now, I assure you.

  

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TacWed 23-Apr-08 11:34 AM
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#21198, "Mine was more a general point."
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I'm not that familiar with Kteng's, but from what I remember last time I was there, if I had the keys (they were dropped or something) I feel like I could make it through with gentlewalk... Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm not really talking about full exploration, but more like walk in and walk back out without being ghostified.

  

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incognitoWed 23-Apr-08 06:11 PM
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#21200, "I think I get your point"
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And in general it might be the case (although I still got attacked by aggro mobs quite often with perfected gentlewalk back when it first went in). So you might be right about Thar-Acacia, for example.

All I can say about K'tengs is "From the mortal shall come the divine" = "You aint getting past this bit by using gentlewalk these days."

  

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incognitoWed 30-Apr-08 03:19 AM
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#21226, "Urmm, I'll backtrack on that"
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For some reason, Vicaxion couldn't go through the entire area until he hit spectre or something. It was wierd, but definitely appeared to be "by design".

  

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AmortisTue 29-Apr-08 04:52 PM
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#21225, "Gentle walk angered me"
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Here are a few of the places where I could not walk gently past anyone:

Corte
Sirine Island
Gol'Galath (!)
Underdark
Drow city
Abandoned mines (near udgaard)
Bandits in those weird mines near redhorn
Arboria

  

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IsildurWed 23-Apr-08 09:59 AM
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#21196, "RE: Rofl. You couldn't do that today"
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You just called Odrirg me. That's it. You're off the buddy list.

  

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OdrirgWed 23-Apr-08 01:50 PM
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#21199, "RE: Rofl. You couldn't do that today"
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It's ok. Some of you all just have that much trouble admitting when I am right.
















which is most of the time.

  

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ScrimbulWed 23-Apr-08 08:58 PM
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#21201, "STOP TAKING GRAATCH'S MOTIF. NT"
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GinGaWed 23-Apr-08 11:25 PM
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#21202, "How'd your date with Uwe Boll go?"
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Just asking.

  

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