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highbutterflyWed 27-Feb-13 01:35 AM
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#4036, "Does it matter who does the bashing?"


          

If Giant A bashes Giant B, does A have a melee advantage over B in the next few rounds?

  

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Reply No. It doesn't matter., DurNominator, 27-Feb-13 04:49 AM, #1
     Reply The edge Prone defense suggets otherwise. nt, Quixotic, 27-Feb-13 07:41 AM, #2
          Reply The helpfile suggests cheap shot, Mort, 27-Feb-13 08:57 AM, #3
               Reply RE: The helpfile suggests cheap shot, Daevryn, 27-Feb-13 07:19 PM, #4
                    Reply Wishful thinking on my part, I guess. NT, Quixotic, 27-Feb-13 07:47 PM, #5
                    Reply If Giant B is resting position because he is bashed, is..., highbutterfly, 28-Feb-13 01:29 AM, #6
                         Reply RE: If Giant B is resting position because he is bashed..., Mort, 28-Feb-13 03:21 AM, #7
                              Reply Okay, one last question, to make sure :), highbutterfly, 28-Feb-13 03:49 AM, #8
                                   Reply Correct., Straklaw, 28-Feb-13 04:52 AM, #9
                                   Reply RE: Okay, one last question, to make sure :), Daevryn, 28-Feb-13 09:16 PM, #10

DurNominatorWed 27-Feb-13 04:49 AM
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#4037, "No. It doesn't matter."
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As far as I know, bash doesn't give any melee advantage, just a bit of damage and lag.

  

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QuixoticWed 27-Feb-13 07:41 AM
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#4038, "The edge Prone defense suggets otherwise. nt"
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nt

  

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MortWed 27-Feb-13 08:57 AM
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#4039, "The helpfile suggests cheap shot"
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It's mentioned in the flavor text and the see also -section, which strongly suggests the edge is in fact only against cheap shot.

  

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DaevrynWed 27-Feb-13 07:19 PM
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#4042, "RE: The helpfile suggests cheap shot"
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It is in fact for things like cheap shot.

  

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QuixoticWed 27-Feb-13 07:47 PM
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#4043, "Wishful thinking on my part, I guess. NT"
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nt

  

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highbutterflyThu 28-Feb-13 01:29 AM
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#4044, "If Giant B is resting position because he is bashed, is..."
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It seems like when a char hits a resting character, the resting character takes more damage. Does that mean a bashed char takes more damage?

  

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MortThu 28-Feb-13 03:21 AM
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#4045, "RE: If Giant B is resting position because he is bashed..."
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You only take one hit (that can be parried/dodged/whatever) that gets the resting damage boost, then it's back to normal.

  

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highbutterflyThu 28-Feb-13 03:45 AM
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#4046, "Okay, one last question, to make sure :)"
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Edited on Thu 28-Feb-13 03:49 AM

          

So then bashing serves no other purpose than MUTUAL command denial?

I've played games where the 'resting position' lasted for the entire lag. In which case there are strong advantages to bash/trip someone.

  

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StraklawThu 28-Feb-13 04:52 AM
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#4047, "Correct."
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Generally, classes that have a multitude of lagging techniques (bash, trip, etc) are also ones that do very well in a mutual command denial situation. Warriors, assassins, rangers, etc. Mages, obviously, tend to have abilities to *prevent* command denial, trying to avoid these situations. Of course, some of the most enjoyable wins are those where the other player is convinced of his superiority, tries to bash you down, and you end up the better in the situation.

  

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DaevrynThu 28-Feb-13 09:16 PM
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#4049, "RE: Okay, one last question, to make sure :)"
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>So then bashing serves no other purpose than MUTUAL command
>denial?

Pretty much, yeah. Any other benefits are really incidental compared to that.

  

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