Sun Nov 13 20:03:58 2011

At 9 o'clock AM, Day of Deception, 30th of the Month of the Dark Shades
on the Theran calendar Garwern perished, never to return.

I have to agree with Iunna. At first, I was not as apt to interacting with Garwern. Dwarf Paladin 3405172 looking to forge himself, blah, blah.

Over time however, you took roles of leadership, took chances as a Paladin (I can't tell you how refreshing that is) and ultimately "role-played" a Paladin.

You had a tough road. A couple of your enemies were absolutely ruthless and were hell bent on hurting the PLAYER. Their actions were hardly consistent with other goodies, so it was clear they were targeting you. It was also clear they nearly broke you. I'm glad to see that you stuck with the character concept and the Paladin role.

I watch players (A LOT) and I saw several instances where you nearly acted as a player. You shortly changed your mind, which ultimately meant you hadn't become as bitter and jaded as your enemies.

You did great in the Iunna quest. Even better with some of the training. It's a shame you didn't have an opportunity to live longer to we could get you to other stages of Sapper Training. I tend to be careful about quest immteraction when I see players burning through con in the latter stages of their life.

Solid character. A little reckless at times but definitely entertaining.

It was a real pleasure and a treat to interact with you from a mortal-immortal standpoint. Rolling with Khendel was one of the highlights of my CF career and I hope you get back down to mortal-dom soon. But I'll take you as an Imm...basically what I'm trying to say is that no matter what guise you enter Thera in, you bring a lot to the game. So, thanks.

I'd love to say we had great times together, but you did nothing but hate on me, unrelentingly.

Interacting with you gave me some great perspective on roleplay, and your RP was nothing if not solid. I respect that.

We had some great arguments. I enjoyed most of them, especially the grudging respect when the #### was going down with Iunna.

I wish Caerdryn had been on your good side so I could have seen the things these people saw.

See you on the Road.

My angst for Caerdryn was 99% IC, the only thing that bothered me OOC was the summoning episode. Aside from that, our interactions were all in character and I enjoyed them. I'm glad you didn't take offense to it, gruff duty-bound Garwern just wasn't going to stand for a rebel in the ranks.

I am really, really glad to hear that.

The summoning thing was used as a last resort against the person's ridiculous in-character ####ery. I mean, seriously, he was being a complete tool.

The guy doesn't even capitalize the first letter of his sentences.

For some reason, that really bothers me.

But that aside, I am glad it was IC, and the hate actually was a growing experience for my character. So I guess that is a good thing to say; you certainly provided a cornerstone for the expansion of my role.

See you on the Road!

Well, Lethmitel was my first serious Maran attempt, and my first ranger past 35, and I was learning alot from you. I easily had the whole snare tactic down, I just could never seal the kills, but you were really teaching me how to fight Conjies.

You were a really strong presence for most of Lethimtel's life, but you did seem to pitter out a bit, which I can't blame you for. You were our powerhouse though, and I know I loved interacting with you (Even if we only had few serious ones).

GLWYN, man, hopefully we're not enemies.

I liked Leth and I wish you all the best. Fort Ranger was actually on my short list of projects, but with the influx they have now I suppose it'll go back on the waiting list for a while. Snare in the mountains is such a great choke point, so best of luck!

Where to start? I was not expecting a con death, at all. I thought for sure I'd make it until age death.

Unfortunately, Tzaritzawah ruthlessly kept on me with his posse and with a mixture of full loots to keep me on the ground often managed to get me for a con or so a day if he got the upperhand on me and was able to find me while I was regearing.

Dwarf Paladin is sturdy. Just very, very sturdy. Also, vuln_bash. But sturdy.

I suppose I'll do group goodbyes and then hit on individuals.

Empire: You were all decent fights and fun interactions. I didn't particularly like any of you, but I didn't exactly try to like any of you either. The one thing I do want to say to you all is that all of you as a whole need to take looting better. 95% of my deaths, I got 0% of my armor back. I take a handful of higher end things from Imperials and (most) of you threw a little fit. It just left a really hypocritical taste in my mouth.

Scion: There were more of you in my younger years, and less of you now. But throughout the ages you all were a consistent presence. I enjoyed fighting you, and I hope the lowbie scions that I saw start to step it up and turn into power houses.

Outtie: I liked almost all of you and glad that I got to a mutual-respect sort of peace with nearly all of you. Your evils were especially elusive and hard to pin down.

Herald: I enjoyed my interactions with both Skeeta and Zuseris, however brief they were. Both of you are exceptionally well roleplayed.

Battle: I felt like Garwern was almost an honorary Battle member. With the whole Iunna quest I became super tight with quite a few of you, plus most of you went religious anyhow, and I got to know quite a few of you very well. I also think I heroed 4-5 of you, which I was more than happy to do. Battle always has a soft spot for me. I liked nearly every single person I interacted with in Battle and I wish you all the best.

Fort: Sheesh. I loved you all, but spent 50% of my time shaking my head at some of the boneheaded moves you all would pull. The only bit of constructive advice I have is that you all take coaching a bit better. There were quite a few times that I attempted to voice a suggestion tactics-wise to use, and was shouted down by 3-4 squires, to the point where I didn't even want to attempt to offer pointers anymore. Other than that, I generally enjoyed my interactions within the Fortress.

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Eachainn and Vall: The two from childhood. You all were great and I adored both of you, even if the raunchy jokes sometimes made me cringe as a player. I have nothing but fond memories from both of you, and am sort of glad I ended up condying sooner rather than later as I'm unsure how long I would have remained a member of Fortress due to the IC interactions of late. Thank you for all the help. With either of you I felt exponentially more confident in the Fort's chances as a whole and you both fill the leader shoes rather well.

Ozrek: You bastard, we were doing so well together. I missed you from the moment you deleted. We were a great tagteam and we took down a few buff players together.

Ckonnar: Ozrek 2.0. I'm sorry we didn't get to run more together. I'm also sorry we never really got into groove together except for that one night where we took down 5-6 people in the span of 15 minutes. If it wasn't for our mistakes, we would have had Tzar dead more than a few times.

Ill/Boh: You are both great characters and very different. You all balance out nicely for Fortress. I only wish you two would fight less and monitor groups more, but that's a pet peeve of mine for all healers. That said, I can't judge you all too much because I don't have the patience to play a healer.

Twist's Acolyte: I'm still mad at you. I loved your character.

Argivo: You've come a long, long ways from when we were lowbies. I'm glad to see you stick it out and you've improved exponentially. It's really impressive. Kudos.

Zosi: You bastard. I wish I saw you more recently, I adored our interactions. You're an exceptionally roleplayed character and your pk savviness isn't to be questioned either. Best of luck to you.

Oryntohr: I had a good deal of respect for you, I'm sorry we never got to continue our chat. Keep on doing what you do.

Eleagra: I'm sorry I full looted you. I felt awful about it and never fulled anyone again after I dropped a heavy loot at you at the council. You're a tough fire giant warrior and while alone I didn't bat much of an eye at you, with anyone at your side you became dangerous.

Phraz/Rae/Gerelexes: I didn't interact extensively with any of you, but you were all tough and clearly competent. Good on you.

Otuerghad: I liked you, a lot. It figures that I con die right as buggy pepper dust was fixed. . That pepper dust was ABSURD.

Obregon: You got me! Damnit! Good kill on your part in the wastes of Nonveil, I knew I was ####ed when you hit me there. I thoroughly enjoyed our interactions.

Dvalygg: You slippery, slippery bastard. I chased you from one end of Thera to the other and landing a kill on you was extremely satisfying just because of how good you were at getting out of traps and escaping my ploys.

Odrallag/Aughasyerban: I loved both of you, so much. My Faithful! I wish I saw you two around more of late, but I guess our times aren't meshing too much. Nothing but praise from your, our interactions were wonderful.

Akedeh: You have an interesting build, and you're exceptionally tough. I have nothing but the highest respect for you and your hardline ways. Our interactions were fun, and even if IC me wanted you to back off, OOC me was glad that you're taking a no-nonsense approach.

Tontik: One of my very very favorite memories of Garwern is the double sapper tag-team escape out of the Imperial Lands with the Codex. That will go down as one of my more favorite CF memories.

Yantha: I really dislike you. The fact that you are essentially Tzaritzawah's storage locker for goodie gear that he loots from goodies is disgusting, in my opinion. But hell, as long as your doing it. You were still a goodie so Garwern never really snapped at you.

Whiysdan: You were super fun and off-the-wall crazy the three or four times we interacted. I'm still sad I never got to hear your stories, I was curious to Whiysdan's background.

Thror: Ah! One of my regrets it not making it to meet that sapper that you were hinting about. Thanks for all the interactions, I hope you enjoyed them as much as I did. We didn't seem to click at first, but I really, really enjoyed interacting with you. I've wanted to interact with you for a while and I'm glad I finally got the chance to. One of my fondest memories was how you used me as a prop in that empowerment interview. That was super cool and showed just how quick and good you are at roleplaying.

Iunna: It didn't start off well! Between my super laggy connection and me really struggling to get the religion at first, it didn't start out well at all. But it turned around for the better. You were incredible. Just absolutely incredible. I encourage anyone and everyone to follow Iunna at least once. The amount of effort you put into your followers is so satisfying and makes everything so amazing. Your quest was also just...unbelievable. You, and you alone, made Garwern my most memorable character to date.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm forgetting some people. So, post and I'll respond as best I can and as time allows.

I liked you a lot, even for a non-Baer Maran. Towards the end you got a little mouthy, that's true, which you pretty much admit here. All in all good stuff tho.

Good luck on your next, I imagine we'll see you around Fort again pretty soon. Not too soon, but pretty soon.

Gah! Sorry for forgetting you. I'm glad you liked Garwern. That means a lot to me, as generally I get the feeling you tend to have rather mixed feelings towards my characters.

And yes, I did get a bit..meh towards the end, my RP started to slack a bit. Not something I'm proud of.

You know that you con died on the 13th, right?

I really enjoyed Garwern. Very well done all the way around. I hope you enjoyed it as much as it seemed you did.

"W"

I did, thanks. I was a big fan of Whiysdan. And who knows? Maybe I'll head your way next.

It's funny how first impressions can throw you off sometimes - that whole
initial empowerment interview was just.. disjointed and bland. It felt like
paladin #95812 walked in and.. that was it. But like a lot of characters,
you took that and grew into yourself, your role, who you were, your place
in Fort, and in quick order embodied the religion. You were the kind of
follower who renewed my interest and inspired me to continue putting time
into this game after what has seemed like way too many years already.
And thanks for being so patient and central to the quest, I really couldn't
have done it without you. Characters like Garwern make the whole IMM
thing worthwhile.

Your song:
I See a Darkness, Johnny Cash

I'm glad. You're really, really good for the game. I'm glad I put a bit more zip into your step. And that song is basically perfect. Sort of sad, but really rather perfect. Again, thank you for everything. You didn't make Garwern super powerful or give him super goodies or anything. But the attention and the individualistic nature of the interactions were absolutely priceless. Just, thank you.

Love ya.

I'm really sorry. I didn't put as much into Laesron as I could have and should have. You had a unique role idea and I'm sorry I didn't put more effort into you.

I did try to catch up with you when I saw you on, and I hope you follow in ol' Garwern's footsteps.

Bohvik loved the hell out of Garwern - shining example of a Maran, and ever the martyr. Bohvik viewed Garwern as the experienced loner type that would soldier on until he couldn't anymore - shining light in every dark hole and bearing the weight of the consequences with dignity.

So, he spent a lot of time speaking on your behalf to squires - smoothing over rough spots. And surprise gating to you when he smelled action. And (sanc;reju) regearing you because we really really needed you to have your insane DPS and full set of glowy stuff so you could keep scaring the hell out of the bad guys and inspiring our squires.

In the end it's pretty damn cool that Garwern went out exactly as he should have - con-dying instead of falling prey to an early delete (which believe me, NO ONE would have blamed you for.) GLWYN, and CUITF.

Hope my hero nubnubbery wasn't too painful. More on that when I die, I guess.

Thanks, it was hard to keep trucking at times. I'm glad you liked me. Boh really seemed to 'get' Garwern. He didn't get take offense, he took Garwern's gruffness in stride and was just a really good foil to me. I thoroughly enjoyed your presence and for the most part didn't mind the random gates(unless I was luring an enemy).

If there was every a better dwarf paladin two-hander build, I'd like to see it.

You were one tough cookie. I don't think I've ever ranked quicker on skeletons than with you. It was very fun running with you from time to time. Goodie dwarves are as thick as thieves!

I really liked Ghrondel and you were way tougher than I initially gave you credit for. If I would have been ONE second earlier on east sumner's maybe you woulda been alive to cranial Tzar!

So I destroy a mummies army and you show up and we wreck the war master after I nuke the other fire giant. So you can look at it as a 10 v 1 fight because I had no idea you were on the way. However, to do so, thirsting is involved. So, the smart mummy runs east and summons all sorts of crap knowing I'll chase, but also leaves their companions. And as well all know, ganging people doesn't work when you're just one guy.

Right, run to the Inn because that's where they're(the warriors) healing. Bunny! Get out of the way damnit! Inn Guard, WHAT THE HELL! I didn't know you were the offspring of the Enforcer and the Slayer! You hit like A TRUCK(10 pts of damage). Guard doesn't chase. Thirst falls off, resting the fatigue at the healer.

Whoa! War Mistress wants to fight some more? BRING IT! I get a few hits in, you show up when I've got like 150 or less HP I think, nuke her, I get the KB.

So, 2 fire giants dead, mummy near, time to rest and flee pass these mobs. Rested to 800 Hp. Let's get out of here.

Too much damage being taken from Inn Guard, retreat fails, flee spam! Phew! Got north to Sumners.

####! All the mobs that are still aggro on me that the mummy summed for my thirsting! They are goodie mobs so I spam flee, but end up back in the Inn(eat some more guard damage),flee north, east, towards more summoned mobs, and for whatever reason I think east is the way to go, fled west once, but have the command for east entered.

It's too late. I realize spamming west would have saved me, went east and got bashed and died by mob.

Condensed version of a long log on my end.

Tontik: One of my very very favorite memories of Garwern is the double sapper tag-team escape out of the Imperial Lands with the Codex. That will go down as one of my more favorite CF memories.

Hell yeah man, that was one of my top memories also...you know its awesome when you want to high five your laptop after doing something on cf....Plus I still have no freaking idea how I made it out with the codex, and covered for you on eastern after i downed it, just freaking cool all around.

Also I think you had a decent impact on the entire game, we were never really fighting each other (cept for the end there and not sure if it was ever even me vs you) and i don't think we ever really explored or anything like that together but you still had an impact on my chars life so kudos to you.

And I really liked your rp esp during the quest and even after, you always seemed to stick to your rp guns with me atleast. Was great times with you around and glad to see you stick it out till the end, good luck with your next.

tontik

Yeah that situation was just epic. I think Odrallag told me you were stuck behind cents with the Codex. I had about 50% hp going into it but knew I could help out so I ran up, made a stand at the cents, killed them and waved you through while eyes of flame progged to keep Tzar off you. And then as I was running out of mana/hp maledicted to high hell I called for you to cover my own sorry ass retreat and you somehow managed to. Just....amazing.

Glad you're still kicking, you're good for Battle.

I will post them when Im gone. You completely deserved what you got (from my point of view).

For your satisfaction, I can say: for keeping destroying you I've lost a lot more than gained (no throne, no more immlove ever no matter of what I do and etc - so you are very well avenged by that "blacklist"). Yet it was necessary and if I could turn back time, knowing where I will end, I'd do it again without any thoughts. Perhaps this run taught you what you shouldn't do to other players, if you do not want to get your (successful and great in other ways character) to be destroyed like that.

From PK/RP point, you did everything alright and been toughest enemy in the fort, kudos for that.

P.S. I've just read your rant about "gear locking" and Yantha. Funny to hear that from YOU. To defend Yantha, last time she refused to take two hummingbirds pendants. Also, there is a big difference between gear locking (your case) and gear using (her and couple of other neutral-to-empire goodies).

I'll be honest, I'm one of the most sportsman-like friendly players in the game, so I'm genuinely curious as to your reasons for trying to destroy me.

Aside from that, I'm also one of the more resilient players who can take a lot of pain. So. You didn't really do much except slow me down. The multi-killing got to me a bit, but I don't think I ever bitched.

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After you ganged me in Galadon, and after I've got fulled by a lowbies when LD died, asked you to give me a break so I could regear at least basically. You answered:

Garwern tells you 'Yer death ah seek, Sagraa. I care not fer much else concernin' yer.'

I don't think you should complain about multi-killing you when you did exactly same to your enemies. That is a fair strategy, I don't see anything wrong with it. But don't expect others to treat you differently.

Oct 3, 2011 |Lv 51|Galadon|vs 2: Hapne (3%), Garwern (96%, divine power)
Oct 10, 2011|Lv 51|The North Road|vs 1: Dieterle (100%, burst of energy)
Oct 12, 2011|Lv 51|Arkham|vs 1: Garwern (100%, strike of deliverance)


That's from the PK death section of your pbf. I'm not sure what you mean by Multi-killing, unless you consider me killing you once, and then 9 days later killing you again multi-killing.

I've been speaking of your multiple attempts to multikill Sagraa after he LD died and died to you in Arkham (he was half-geared and decided to give it a try - stupid move by me).

After this, you never managed to get me I think, but you have tried A LOT of times, chasing half-geared Sagraa across the whole thera while he was trying to regear. This is when I've asked you to give him a break (weak, I know) and you arrogantly declined.

In short: you never multikilled Sagraa, but not because you didn't try. In other words, you tried to multikill him many times but never managed.

Again, no hard feelings for that, but you shuldn't have hard feelings for others who did exactly same to you (but with a better effectiveness, obviously)

You should be happy that Garwern didn't even try to reach the heights of douchebaggery that Tzaritzawah set up.

It's one thing to chase around uncaballed gnome shifter while he's looking for shinies, it's another thing entirely to multikill and full sac a pally who has never killed you, and stands very little chance of doing so, and who is always willing to fight you no matter what the odds.

but I find it a little odd that you seem to be defending a paladin chasing around a gnome shifter that's not geared well, and implying that that's somehow better than a necro full-looting a pally.

Both sound pretty bad to me, but at least the necro THOUGHT he was doing someone a favor. Sounds like he may have been wrong though.

As far as always being willing to fight no matter what the odds, that's probably an exageration -- otherwise being attacked while regearing isn't really an issue.

Got to say though, I find it hard to see why either a paladin or a gnome shifter is really that endangered by someone hunting them while they regear. Paladins can get gold easily and should be able to explore enough to get the twitchy edge (if they don't already have temperance virtue), and can carry a bunch of teleport potions. Gnome shifters can recall AND teleport and depending on forms can also explore enough to get twitchy (if they don't already have dangersense). Avoidance of pk should be relatively easy for both.

Sagraa was evil. So I'm not just chasing around some random gnome shifter.

1) gnome shifter is uncaballed evil murder shifter, who has spent a great deal of his life murdering everyone in sight, including random assorted Forties. There are tons of good reasons to smack him whenever he walks by you.

2) Paladin has no kill-sealing abilities. Its possible to die to pally still, but you'd have to make some serious, serious mistakes for that to happen. So paladin chasing around gnome shifter is pretty harmless all in all.

3) Every time you walk into the same room with a mummy, you're taking a risk that he will instantly kill you. Sleep, power word kill, power word decay, ghoulish freeze + army, and to a lesser extent spells like forget, they can all guarantee your death pretty cleanly even as a paladin. Conversely, there's absolutely no risk at all involved for the mummy - paladin doesn't have cleave or anything to make the risk mutual. Garwern was fairly skilled, but he had zero significant threat to Tzaritzawah outside elaborate gangs, and Tzaritzawah had huge threat to him.

4) Paladin has to fight mummy. Paladin is caballed, so its not like he can avoid every fight with Tzaritzawah. Furthermore, paladin also has some pretty strong role obligations to fight Tzaritzawah over and over again, regardless of his actual chances of killing the guy. Evil gnome shifter, on the other hand, can just teleport away no problem, and has no cabal for us to raid and force him to defend.

5) Its not like it was only Tzaritzawah multikilling him and full saccing him. Most of the times Garwern died, it was several imperials working together to bring him down, and then he would get full sacced and be working from regear for the next couple of days, where he'd get ganged down and die again and again. Admittedly paladins aren't nearly as gear-dependent as some other characters, but its still a very vicious series of gankdowns.

6) Normally with people who pull that full-looting crap, someone eventually kills them and does the same, and thats that. Tzaritzawah, however, never suffered this fate. The people who suffered the most because of Tzaritzawah were the Fortress, and to a much lesser extent his empire cabalmates, who would die to us regularly and walk back to find half their armor gone because a certain mummy had recently full sacced Garwern or some other Fortie. It made the game less fun for everyone.

There would be times I would have loved to return all the equipment to certain blades or whomever who tried to defend valiantly against bad odds and got ganged down ruthlessly. But because my own people were half naked or using #### regear, I just couldn't: especially knowing that if someone lik Garwern died again in the wrong spot, they'd get fulled and a few pieces of good gear could make the difference between a full loot and survival.

1) Seems you knew Sagraa better than I did, so no comments here. But I agree, I think fort (and every other cabal) had tonns of good reasons to kill him.

2) Garwern actually had lagging moves and defiance. He and Eachainn almost permalagged me on the raid, getting me down to 250hps when I worded out. He could one-two round some unprepped characters. So here you are talking about something you have no idea about. Garwern is tripple dangerous for an evil gnome beause evil gnomes are vuln_wrath and defiance is a bane for them.

3) Everytime you walk into the same room with a mummy, you autoattack him. So this is a pure nonsense. I know what I am talking about - fighting Garwern always been a risk (yes, I admit his PK/combat skills - he was strongest paladin I ever fought). So you are completely wrong here. I do not mention that meeting with Garwern = lose my army = lose 2 hours of play and probably no chance to regather army due to chasing hordes of fortvillagers.

4) Yes, agreed. So whats the point? Does it justify him hunting just perished guy who is trying to regear?

5) I never heard that someone else would do it (or suffer consequences for doing this).

6) You should ask the question, why in 400 hours Tzaritzawah never did it and why suddenly he began doing this. And before that, I have killed tonns of enemies too.

Lastly, I see nothing wrong with it. 99% of the gear is easily to egather in a day or two, with your numbers - in a hour. You got finally something to do, say thanks and let it go

I've tried to sit by idle and watch you explain yourself and justify your actions.

You're still an active character.

It's probably in your best interest to stop commenting and to play out your character. Then we can all (including me) debate whether your actions were at all "in-character".

This is also Garwern's death thread. Let's make it a little less about you and your stellar treatment of him.

And I do not try to justify anything anymore because it is useless.

Also other players probably should stop discussing me in those threads because when something is saying wrong about me on the internet, I cannot let it go

I vaguely recall the tell you reference, but I don't remember it coming across as you asking for me to give you a break.

I fought Sagraa a handful of times. Usually it was you + scarabs trying to pin me down, and the two times I killed you (as shown above) it was me alone with Hapne coming in at the last second, or me alone in Arkham. I don't recall fighting you at all immediately after either of those encounters, and thus I have absolutely no idea where you're getting this idea that I attempted to multi-kill you.

That said, I'm also not inclined to respect or value your opinion very much, given what I saw of Sagraa. So. Think what you will.

Dude you were a shifter. In this day and age, in all reality all a nude shifter needs to do is go to the guild and type outfit, to be fully viable in PK. No you may not have had your cheesy ass tabbies in tow, or had the maximum possible hps you could squeeze out of gear, but the guild gear is ample to make you fully competitive again. If you were "half geared" it's because you chose to be.

Point is not that I've been geared or not geared as I see it. Point was: Garwern says it's fine to hunt an enemy no matter of situation. Enemy is evil, enemy is playing = can be hunted and there is nothing wrong with that.

To make it clear - I TOTALLY agree with this. If you are unghosted, you accept one simple thing: you can be killed again, no matter if you are geared or not, ready or not.

But I don't understand why he is complaining about being multikilled, if he accepted those 'rules' and following those 'rules' himself (refering to his reply to my tell, when I've informed him about my 'regearing' status).

This is why I wrote my 'bleh' about his whine about 'being multikilled by bad bad and evil imperials'.

You don't see a difference between:

"If you're in my range and you're my enemy, I'll come after you without first somehow making sure you're well geared enough"

and

"If you're in my range and you're my enemy, I'll keep trying to kill you, knowing you're about naked because I full looted you twenty minutes previous?"

Because I think there's an enormous gulf between those two things, although neither is against the rules.

Just my 0.2 cents: I see the difference, and I never seen anyone intentionaly hunted naked forties. Yet, I'm pretty sure, if they would see them nearly (forties come to raid, or forties defend their cabal), imperials would attack. And forties would do exactly same (actually, I've seen such many times in different cabals: some poor guy dies and as soon as he unghosts he says that he was killed again and again).

Summary: I don't think that multikilling on purpose is a good thing, but sometimes it happens too. I've been multikilled as a mage by villagers not onnce. That is my choice, to play when there are hordes of enemies or wait some and reequip when things gets better for me.

With current situation in game (holy army of the fort, village and outies vs 1-2 imperials, 1 scion and 1 scarab) this is also a nonsense, imho.

Lastly, I'm sure if they would intentionaly hunt and multikill Garwern, he would condie A LOT earlier.

Garwern dude were a paladin. Beside outfit stuff from the guild, they have sanc + protection + tonns of virtues (and Garwern had best ones in the game) + request. He could kill Lord of Kiadana in just outfit gear, as well as raid any cabal and kill inners in that gear even with average powerful defenders inside (not me or Eleagra, but he would wipe floor with almost anyone else).

I could accept multikilling concept in his case if we would wait for him in the pit as soon as he died, following him everywhere and coming soon after he unghosted. Such never happened.

You sort of did chase me down as soon as I unghosted: Re: Kiadana Killing. That's still no excuse for me to die, I just didn't have an exit strategy. But don't try to pretend like you didn't ruthlessly attempt to con-kill/full loot me. Furthermore, when you did kill me ni Kiadana I think I had 4-5 pieces of gear that weren't outfit oriented, and you fulled the hell out of them.

And since your reasons for full looting me were apparently on biased claims that both myself and Daev have discredited...

You were killing lord of kiadana rah. Sorry, but if you can kill lord of Kiadana, you are very well ready to fight. If I see someone is killing one of the toughest mobs in the game, I will not think if he is ready or not. You had tonns of forties to reequip you, in fort there are tonns of things is in the chest in 99% of time. So I had no idea if you are naked or not - but again, killing lord is not something that naked guy would do. You have seen us coming and gave it a try, and died.

Do not blame others for your own mistakes. If you want to look like a martyr, you can fool your buddies on #dangerrom or imms, but not me. You did everything to piss me off (healing villagers during the raids included) and got exactly what you deserved.

If there are not many characters who got pissed off by your actions that is not because you are so cool guy, but because everyone are playing fort or fortally and do not know what an asshole (biased imho) you are to your enemies.

EDIT: Actually, only one time we came after you were on Kiadana and not because we were looking for you on purpose, but because we happened to be near (I do not rmember exactly why - or someone were going to learn there, or someone wanted something from mobs there). So you are trying to earn bonus scores for you and blame me for something that happened only once and half-accidently. Now I really regret that I did not hunt you after killing.

You really should be, you're not helping yourself.
But I don't think you can do that.
You feel the innate desire to try and prove you weren't an ass, but generally, you were. As an imperial, you should be kind of an ass, but the OOC bleed was just too obvious.

Lord Kiadanah? As a Maran? I'm not sure that is really difficult, with fire healing them and all.

My one interaction with Tzar involved me walking into the lands and just dropping a fiend on you and some other guy when darkness swayed. Not a lullaby and being sung up, just a fiend.
You die.
You tell me something like when you go through the becoming, you will find me, kill me repeatedly, and leave me with nothing.

If that's your M.O., that's fine, but own up to it instead of trying to rationalize your rather crappy playstyle that looks for reasons to multi kill and full people.

roflcopter nmft.

You tell Allysia 'I will remember that.'
You tell Allysia 'You have picked a good time.'
You tell Allysia 'Do not tell me anything, Allysia. Your dead body will tell me anything I want to know.'

So #### off, dear. It was only one talk between me and you. If you see here something OOC, I really, really feel sorry for you. All your team is trying to screw me up, but I do not care for your poor attempts. You can whine and lie as much you want, history with Ahtieli repeating. I must be honored by your attempts.

No more respect to you for that.

EDIT: To HammerSong: you really think I can let go such things to go? One more example of being an asshole and trying to destroy my character via blatant ooc accusations, where goal is to force me to reply - and if I will let it go, people would believe such ####ers.

As of right now, not one person cares about your current char. most people here have told you that you are a douche and you act like it here and in game. You are, I had the experience on both sides, and i came away feeling icky both times.

maybe it's time for you to take a break, go find something else to do for a while.

If everyon around you is telling you your acting in a certain manner, and you are the only one who thinks contrary, I think it's time for some serious introspection.

No message

After killing you:

***

You tell Morin 'You are nothing without your army, weak captain.'

<1062/1062hp 1115/1115m 946mv 14840tnl 3 PM> tel morin All you can do, is annoy me by summoning my undeads. Feel the power, and take an oath now.

Morin is ignoring you.

***

Enough said. Go share OOC info with your friends in your cheatring, go cry to them how a bad bad bad necromancer is being a douche and taunting a paladin! He did dare to offer him an oath after killing him! What an asshole, indeed!

I know what you told and to whom, and what you requested to do.

And you are far from everyone. Well done trying to misrepresent facts (for the second time now), but I think it is you and your cheating friends should take a break.

Seriously,

People may have an issue with you in character, I know I wasn't all that impressed by how you acted to my current... but that is all IN CHARACTER. You can pretty well treat cf how you want but you need to realize that if you are unsporting people are going to react to you in a logical manner to someone peeing on their fun, IN CHARACTER.

Basically what I am saying is stop posting with your handle here unless it is specific to a goodbye for a character. All that other crap isn't necessary, who cares what people say here. Take the high road and act in a way that completely proves them wrong instead of degrading into an internet spitball fight, there is no winner here and only your current handle as the looser.

Please take my advice, don't bother replying back to me because this isn't an attack, it is only advice.

Seriously, thanks. I truly tried to refrain from posting here or answering, but when people are posting that ####, lying, twisting facts - I cannot just read it and not answer. Because here, in CF community, if someone posting something (even obvious lies, like iasentia or welverin did) and you remain silent - you will be guilty in all that #### they accuse you.

Ah well, I will try to follow this advice again and finally shut up, ignoring all that #### they will try to throw into my direction.

This isn't even worth an answer. Delete your character already.

>You were killing lord of kiadana rah. Sorry, but if you can
>kill lord of Kiadana, you are very well ready to fight.

Any Maran can kill him fully nude, with a lightforged weapon. ANY Maran. I can't use the word ANY with more emphasis. You can't possibly be this dumb, and still form complete sentences for a text based RPG. I mean...Wow. A Maran killing the Lord of Kiadana is like...I mean, holy #### I can't even think of a more insanely easy thing to compare it to, so I'm just saying "I mean" a lot.

Do you understand how completely at a loss I am for words, and how infrequently that has EVER happened to me? It's like fishing with dynamite, in a barrel, where there were so many fish in the barrel, that there wasn't even room for water, and you had to hammer the dynamite into place with a mallet before lighting it. It's like getting poop out of a baby who you fed 2 full cans of Hormel (tm) chili to, 45 minutes ago. It's like finding someplace cold and wet in Scotland. It's like finding a Haitian in South Florida.

I quite honestly can't think of anything outrageous enough to compare the ease to. Seriously. Putting out a match by sinking it to the bottom of the deepest part of the ocean MIGHT be outrageous enough a comparison to the ease.

I mean, you wind up getting healed to the point that you can have as much as 5k EXTRA hps during the fight. You're fighting something that heals you while you fight it, with the very thing it's trying to kill you with. Imagine trying to kill Jesus by using hugs and puppies and sunshine (But sunshine might actually work, if he is a vampire and not a zombie, as I have always suspected).

Sorry I'm really not trying to be a ####, but that was just one of the silliest things I have ever seen someone use in self defense of something they did. Jigga please.

Yes, I completely forgot about marans power that heals them from the fire. I never played one and this always surprising me. When I had invoker, and been immune to fire, mobs were switching to normal attacks... so I kinda though same would happen here. So yes, my mistake.

PS: probably it should have been posted on the bug board instead of being abused.

That's exactly how the power is intended to work. I'm fine with someone who has gone through the pain and suffering of trying to get Maran being able to kill roughly 4 buff mobs (that I can think of) that most people can't, for some decent eq.

In fact, one great tactic I've used (and had used against me as Tavlin) was fleeing from a stronger foe in an area with a fire-based-attack mob and attacking it, then switching to the enemy when he chases me.

It almost worked for Maravon vs. Tavlin, except my zombies pumped out more damage than the firedrake and I got his passdoor dispelled and he didn't have a key to unlock the door.

Just thought it is same as when mobs (with elemental attacks) are fighting shielded invokers and switching to normal attacks, or when zombies/ghouls/golems are immune to the mob and mob is switching to the necromancer.

Yes, I do not know if it is hard to get maran, so I believe you that it is not abuse.

This whole thread confuses the #### out of me.

There were number of other players (noobs mostly) who complained/whined to me about how Garwern+Eachainn twix killed them and fullsacced them (there were NOT imperials, by the way) and requested to do same to them.

Since they are gone - Callad, Qaz. More when I'm gone.

Heh those, uh, aren't noobs.

Edit: also, I don't think that actually happened.

Edit #2: You might want to call it quits with respect to this particular thread of discussion while you're ahead, because right now reading it I'm not 100% sure I shouldn't do something rules-enforcement-y if I'm trying to be fair.

Qaz is SURELY a noob (or never ever played necro). Since he is dead, I have got him complaining twice about how he was fulled/sacced by Garwern (together with tonns of other whines, I admit) Do not know about Callad - he seemed to be semi-noob.

Callad offically requested fullsac for Eachainn even via note. I didn't fullsac him that time (there were no reason yet), but got reward (gloves).

I do not know for 100% IF that trully happened, but knowing situation from at least two points of view + those reports I tend to believe that it actually happened (unless I misunderstand something). Also, Qaz had no single reason to lie about what happened (he did not even want to be imperial and I, to my own mysery, forced him to take an oath).

Maybe I am being naive and trust others too much.

Edited: Thanks for your love! I knew you will not leave my post unnoticed - take five!

>Qaz is SURELY a noob (or never ever played necro).

He's sooooo not. If I had the chance to bet that he's logged 10x your hours on CF, I probably would take it.

> Callad offically requested fullsac for Eachainn even via note.

Yup; IMHO, that's a massive escalation on Callad's part, but I'll wait for Eachainn to be done before commenting.

Intriguing!

I have oathed Qaz and he got promotion out of the mercy, heh. Looks like I do not understand something

Will wait for his goodbye post (and Eachainn's too).

From my interactions with him, Qaz seemed like he was a big pile of crap. I wouldn't be surprised if he was lying through his teeth, or just blowing things way out of proportion.

I don't believe I ever fulled Qaz, though Qaz did have the habit of waiting around cabal fights waiting to full loot anyone he could get his hands on. I know he fulled one of my allies and two of my enemies when they died, much to my chagrin.

You have to really, really tick me off to get me to drop the full sac- I wasn't even intending to drop it on you, Tzar.

Qaz also(from what I could glean from the gameplay forums) threw a MASSIVE whinefest and accused me of a number of things simply because I managed to find him while he was trying to age his character in out of the way places while being massively afk.

These were places that no newb would know to hide, and it took me RL hours of trial and error to pin him down the two times I found him AFK aging (Once was in the shrine of a long-dead god. The area is about 2 rooms total, the other was in the Ghoul Tunnels of Hamsah Mu'tazz.) I didn't full him either time, but I did heavily loot him both times due to the fact that he had fulled cabalmates of mine.

If your goal is specifically to age your char while being afk, why wouldn't you just grab a huge sack of water or an everfull skin, and a pouch of nourishment, and go into a noexit room, like jumping off the bridge in Organia? Sure it costs you a death but no ones gonna come in to kill you.

Don't think that didn't cross my mind in my searches. I would have found him there too. >

Get yourself sent to the prison in hell. Ahh, the joys of playing about 40 hours stuck there, hoping some imm would take notice or a rescue party would be able to reach me. Then eventually giving up and suiciding.

I was thinking about how to RP that kind of thing... and if I would ever get out for the RP of it.

One and only time I ever drew a card from XXX, and then that's what happened.

Intentionally aging? I sure am glad we wrote a smarter mummy formula than that.

Near as I could tell. I assume that's what he was doing given his clearly afk nature, but it wasn't a short term afk. He had been sitting in each of those spots for (I assume) RL hours. I didn't notice any spells being spammed and he sat at the altar for a few hours after each of those deaths.

nt

There are always good reasons to full sac and multikill: We don't do it because its lame, not because we can't find good reasons for it. I've had several situations where I had very good reasons to full loot empire characters, and they've had very good reasons to full loot me, but none of us took that road - just a few useful things taken and returned most of the rest. And the game was fun. At least, until you came along after you mummied and decided to #### everything up.

I had this whole huge rant written down about how you made the game worse for everyone in both empire and in fortress, but I thought better of bitching out active characters. I'll save it for when we're both gone.

Would mummy won't care about having you nacked I'd do my best to do it. Granted it's not easy on fire giant but guess I'd manage one or two fullsacs.

So I'm confused the Imms basically kicked you off the council for being an evil bastard and full looting a ton? Or is there more to the story?

That which does not kill us,
makes us stronger.

Imms had nothing to do with it as far as I know, but details will be after I am gone (guess I will know a lot more than I know now, all connections and reasons too). Remember, I am active yet. And this is Garwern's thread after all.

BLASPHEMY IN THE HOLY PALADIN'S THREAD!

Edited: should say - had nothing to do _directly_

Dangit! I knew you were dying frequently, but I didnt realize you were burning through CON quite as fast as you were. It seems you mostly did your dying when I was offline, so there really wasnt much I could do for you there.

Solid character, tough as nails with some pretty good RP. I regret not being around to participate more in the Iunna quest and Garwern reminiscing. You were very much a lone-wolf type, and Illanthos respected that, so he tried as best as he could to support you while still giving you the space you craved. Finding a balance between the two was perhaps the most challenging part of his interactions with you.



...In other news, its exam season, so I'll be buried under a pile of work until mid-december. I'll be as active as I can manage, but yeah... If you need to get a hold of me, missives are your friend.

The con burn was a slow but steady burn. You are a pillar for the Fort, so even if the season has you down, don't give up!

Ahhh, glad you finally joined me. You were a lot of fun, even though sometimes I thought you were thinking "What the hell is wrong with you?!" or "You shouldn't say things like that. You should be ashamed." I guess what I'm trying to say is that you instantly had the "big brother frowning down upon his foolish little bro" demeanor, and it was cool.

If it makes you feel any better, I've been getting roflstomped with my current character, though I've scraped a handful of wins too! Mob deaths galore! Yay!

Thank you! The older brother gruff dwarf vibe was what I was going for. Glad you got it. And we did our fair share of good shtuff, I don't think I ever really questioned your tactics/actions. Good luck with the current.

You, me, and Eachainn, dude, we could stand off ridiculous groups working together and threaten the most dangerous players in the game. Was a great feeling rolling around with the three of us and I'm sad we didn't quite get it together enough to really push down some of the bigger threats, like Tavlin at his peak.

I also want to apologize for something thats been bothering me for awhile. My character was never as PK oriented as you were. Vallinane started life as an RP-heavy character for me, and remained that way. I felt bad a couple of times because I'd be chatting with Baer in her shrine or interacting with applicants or doing some other RP-thing when you were hunting people down, and we'd miss opportunities to kill them because I wasn't with you at the time. This was probably more important later on in your life, when you could have really used the regear from killing people. I'm sure you thought much the same a couple of times.

I think that if I had worked with you a bit more closely while you were looking for pk, we could have easily gotten a lot more kills and kept you in a few more shinies, making it significantly harder to kill you. Ah well.

I have some amazing memories of working with Garwern, and losing him will be a humungous blow to the Fort. You were one of the most reliable and competent maran that I worked with and I'm very, VERY sad that you're gone.

P.S. Sorry about going over the top a few times with those jokes. CF can get boring right quick; I find it's best if you can amuse yourself when there isn't someone else to amuse you

I didn't notice you sitting out of pk fights, but honestly unless I called for help I typically liked to roll solo simply because very few people would even attempt to fight me 1v1. Getting my pks was a result of a lot of bait and lure (which got me killed more than once).

So. I didn't notice so no need to apologize. Our epic 2v5 defenses were some of my better memories of this character.

Just all around well done with pretty much everything I ever got to see from you. You were a perfect counterpart to the softer side of some of the fort chars.

And yeah, 2 hander dwarf pallys are just about as sturdy a char as anyone can play. Especially with the right virtues. I had faith temperence and fortitude on mine, and at some point I just felt unkillable. Until I got killed of course.

Hope to see you back out in the fields soon.

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the interactions. Allysia was exceptional and I said all I needed to say there. Nothing but the highest praise for that character.

And in a sence the only one doing it right! You caused me a lot of irritation, I basically couldn't level when you were online. I refused to fight you when I had my weapon, you know why. And then when finally Fjodir got tired of it and decided to do something about it, (just put you to sleep and leave you there) things got screwed up and you killed me.

And about Iunna, yes, everyone should have had a char following her. Her interactions are awesome!

GLWYN

Glad you didn't take my hate personally. It was all IC, and I really respect the road Fjodir took. That said, I was baffled by how many forties asked me if they should hunt you. I think one even asked me if it was okay to call you to defend or something. I was -livid- when that happened.

And getting you was very satisfying.

Well played sir,

This was an exceptional take on a dwarf paladin and finally someone played a paladin who it should be played. You stuck precisely to the code and didn't hesitate to sacrifice yourself if it saved just one other person from death. I enjoyed our posturing as far as the magicians in your cabal were concerned, oh how frustrating it was for you to blind me and then just continue about your business so I couldn't chase down Eachainn.

You were one of the few people in the fortress I really looked up to, even when you moved in on kills that I was already going after. Even when you insulted Akedeh's honor and I had to fight you to the death, you didn't miss a beat with the way your character would react. I think we were friends easily as often as we were enemies but it was all about the situation and I applaud you for standing your ground.

As for people saying you should be this and be that, don't worry about other peoples takes on your character as most of the individuals who say you should act a certain way don't appear to be fulfilling their character concepts themselves. Bravo on shaking off the multitude of ####ty full loots and multi-killing that I heard about, not so sure I would have reacted so sporting myself.

Thank you for the kind words, they are well received. I have nothing but the highest praise for Akedeh. I could write about how each of our interactions left me feeling satisfied and thinking about how it shaped my character, but I hope I got that message across already.

Instead, as a testament to how I(and clearly others) view Akedeh, here are two quotes from anonymous sources. One an ally, one an enemy, about you.

"I bet he'll be the next Commander."

"You(Garwern) were the second biggest thorn in my side for much of my life."

^That one shocked me, as I was certain I was the biggest thorn. So I replied.

reply "Who da 'ell was bigger'n me?"

"Akedeh."

sayto self "Ah. Ruddy Hell."

However, thats exactly what I would do as a LE mummy in Empire.

Also I hate to say it but I 100% agree with his blacklist comment.

I'm sure Ill be on the blacklist for saying that now.

Thanks for saving my ass against the Rhyme. Wish i got to talk to you but you seemed quiet and angry when i tried to talk to you. Though the people in the fort keep seeming angry..or angrier lately dont know. Good luck with your next.

I enjoyed Sasaek, actually. I had no issue with you and didn't dislike you.

"Wish i got to talk to you but you seemed quiet and angry when i tried to talk to you."

That was partially gruff roleplay, but I think you may have caught me a time or two where I was contemplating deleting/really not enjoying the character. So I apologize if I was needlessly mean.

I'm sorta at a loss for this one. I figured you were aging a bit faster than I am (I really, really hate my rl job) but I was actually looking forward to getting that drink with you (then maybe a little dinner by candlelight, who knows ) All that to say you were one of my best friends, and pretty much The non-cabalmate I'll miss the most.

Anyhoo. As you might imagine I took so much ####, ic and ooc, for being buddy-buddy with you and I didn't care one bit. You always rocked the rp, were truly horrifying to watch while fighting people who weren't me (not that you were a pushover against me, just that our fights were usually chaos and/or me getting some lucky breaks) and I was... envious/proud of how much I heard others talking about you. Just a great job all around.

I'll regret I missed the end like this, but hope I see you in the fields.

I'm really flattered Garwern made an impact. I like having a character that (positively) influences friends, enemies, and random characters.

I enjoyed our RP, every bit of it. And yeah, people may give us #### for getting along but you killed me more than most of my enemies did, so...I'd say we weren't too buddy buddy. I actually was looking for you before my last death. I had a special made version of that first gift I gave you that I was going to pass on to you in a dying attempt to turn you to the flames.

Garwern was such a solid steadfast force within the fortress. I can't even tell you how many times things were going poorly and you would log on and I knew it would be a game changer. You helped me a lot and I thank you for it. Funny thing is that after I deleted Llar. .. I rolled another char immediately and got to fight by your side again. Well done!!

Thank you, I'm glad you thought I was a force. I really, really, really missed Llarilin. Having a smart bard who was funny and easy on you and didn't impose or intrude too much was just amazing. You were always there if I needed you, but had no qualms about giving me my space if I wanted to run solo. You're a rare player that I really enjoyed from both an IC and an OOC standpoint. I wish you all the best on your current.

Yeah, Garwern was awesome. I really enjoyed all our interactions, and you provided a great point of conflict. Well done and see you in the fields! Roll a villager!

There's a lot to say that I thought about waiting for my own death-thread to say. But I had an opportunity to donate, and so I guess the right time is now.

I think it's worth saying that you were a Pillar Of Awesome for the Fort commmunity. You are an exemplary player, amazingly skilled, very lethal, and you had an amazingly consistent RP presence. I didn't even know how badly you were getting harassed by the imperials, as a measure of how consistent your RP was. And like Argivo, I prefer deeds to words, so to show you that I mean it, I donated for your PBF. Thanks!

Now the mixed review part. Because you were getting unfairly targeted and absurdly flamed and OOC hated for just being a solid player running a cool character, I wanted to wait to say this:

I think you took lone wolf a little too far, and I wish we had more discussions on tactics and worked together more. IMHO, if I bashed Taerg while you fought him 2 or 3 times, he'd be happy enough to fight you even while you had your preps/communes on (but then again, Argivo is a Baer follower and just wants to kill everyone evil).

We had approximately 5 short conversations more than a single line in 200 to 300 hours, and fought together PvP a handful of times, which I think was a little slim. I could have really used some advice, but you never offered or answered. The one time I insisted on asking you for tactical advice by asking you for repeatedly some real advice or answers instead of just accepting the brush-off, you defaulted to saying "just shrug off the defeat and keep going" rather than help me figure out how to win the next time.

For Argivo, things came to a head one day when you asked Argivo to deal with a line of applicants asking you for interviews while you fought the crusade. Always the hunble, courteous knight, Argivo went ahead, assuming you had some super-hero like task to perform. Imagine my suprise when you announced to great applause on cb that you defeated Thog, an RBW whom I had defeated myself three times solo in duels. This was the super hero task for which I am giving 3 Real Life hours of interviews for? Argivo the character is too humble and devoted to say anything, but as a player I felt minimized and insulted. Even Argivo had decided the right thing was stand up for himself and say his time fighting in the crusade was too valuable for the cause of Light if you pulled that on him again, but it never happened again. That confrontation never got resolved IC, so I guess it's being aired out here.

Despite that, you were fun to have around, and thanks for including me in the Iunna/Thror quest funness. Ironically, Argivo's name didn't make it to Skeeta on the newspaper(Argivo doesn't really care about those things, he just wants to see the crusade done, but as a player I wondered if you just thought he was too insignificant to remember to mention). You had a bunch of misperceptions about Argivo which never got corrected due to Argivo's humility and the fact I have a doh moments very regularly, but more on that on my thread.

You're probably right in nearly all of your critiques of me. I'm notoriously bad when it comes to working with people as I do have far too much lone wolf in me.

As far as giving advice: I got a bit jaded on that, given how most of Fort reacted when I tried. I do remember the time you were insistent about the advice re: fighting that mino sword spec, and I was racking my head but couldn't think of anything to really say that was helpful. I didn't want to give you some half-brained idea that probably wouldn't work. (I think the best idea I had at the time was dirt/disarm but it seemed so vanilla.) I am sorry that I didn't help you out more.

I'm also sorry that I put that interview line on you. I don't remember the specifics of how I got into fighting Thog, and I'd like to say that I didn't hunt him down but that's probably untrue. I likely gave one or two interviews, got sick of it, and put the rest on you while I took off hunting and that was wrong of me.

And I knew I was forgetting some people RE: Iunna questiness. I apologize for that as well.

So, in summary: I'm very sorry, in hindsight you got the short end of the stick in Garwern interactions. I liked Argivo, and I didn't mean to slight you nearly as many times as I did.

Thank you for taking the time to say that, and your response was as classy as your character was I definitely think you were consistently awesome, a role model for me as a player and a character, and you deserved all the recognition and more than what you got for it.
I really felt your kindness and belief in me, and so perhaps Argivo didn't get the short stick after all

Congrats on a wild ride!

I learned a lot through you in the ways of a paladin, from thevara to yuzxra I learned a great length, sealing kills with paladins are no easy feat. But staying alive can be done so long as you think ahead as you instructed. If I may have seemed prideful when you gave advice it was all rp seeing as only my lord was fitting to speak of tactics but I truly did listen, and admire you to the point where I strived to be like you. Thanks for showing an awesome char.

No problem, I'm glad I was able to be of help. And I didn't notice you were a Maran until right before you deleted, so a belated congratulations!

I was a huge fan of your char and your rp was rock solid. Always mixing it up, and always dangerous. Hope that you enjoyed your character as much as I the player enjoyed your character.

Thank you, I enjoyed Puhguly more than most nexans. I enjoyed our interactions and glad you didn't take offense at any of my gruff dwarven roleplay. You're definitely a rock for the Island and a tough cookie.

I hope a lot of this to exploring, you seemed strong. Hows a dwarf with access to dern and decent 2 handers, defiance at times, con die so fast?

Glwyn

I didn't really have access to dern as I wasn't comfortable killing the mob for it. I guess I could have dropped heavy loots on duergar for Dern but for the most part it didn't appeal to me. The con death was a mixture of players multi-killing me when they got me down and me dying stupidly to mobs either exploring/regearing.

Vuln-bash...I lolled. On other hand he'd probably adapt from being overpowered prick to reasonably played char.