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Hiya (Anonymous)Thu 08-Dec-22 09:15 PM
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#74689, "RE: Lowering player numbers and its cause"


          

Cf is anti social... That's not a good thing

We spend a ton of time playing these characters of ours and none of that time actually develops any kind of lasting or real friendship with another person. It's actually a bit absurd and kind of sad and it's the biggest problem with the mud.

100, 200 to 500 plus hours into a character and I don't actually know anyone I played with in that time period...

World of Warcraft, using this as an example. Sorry, but I would think most of the people here have played it...

When that game came out it was a steaming pile. It was buggy and the gameplay sucked. Got better and eventually became great due to the devs evaluating the game and most importantly responding to feedback from the player base on ways to improve the game.

The social side of the game made that game become super popular. It was a place to hang out and make new friends! Massive effort was put into creating those systems so people could do that.

Like a lot of other MMO's, MP shooters, MOBA's and online games people get together and game for hours, days, weeks, months, years and years. They get online to game with other people. People make new friends playing those game's... That is one of the primary reasons those game succeeded. It created an environment where people can come together and do stuff together. Form a guild, form a clan, make an in game club, add each other to friends lists and get back together and do it again the next day! Meet in RL, hang out etc. Been there and done that myself.


I came back to play again 2 weeks ago after not playing for 3 years or so.

Levelling up there was some nice players who went out of their way to help the lowbies power level up.
It was hard finding people to group with... Props to those players who do that.

After I hit hero...

I log on..
I sit there for 15 minutes nobody to play with
I sit there for 30 minutes nobody to play with
I sit there for and hour nobody to play with.

Try to do some PVE stuff and I can barely do it cause its too hard solo or just painful slow

I sit there for 1.5 hours nobody to play with
I sit there for 2+ hours nobody to play with
I found some new pron to watch...
I log off...

Rinse and repeat later in the day... Rinse and repeat the next day... Rinse and repeat the next day... Rinse and repeat...

This situation isn't new, this is every character I've played in the past 7-8 years.

Getting back to the social side...

I can't ask someone I met in game to come play with me at "insert time here" because that's not an acceptable thing in this game. The game suffers because its lacking what is now "COMMON" in all of the other video games out there. The social side where people can connect with and making new friends with people and then get together and play with each other. Look at every game out there, there is a very easy to use friends list.

Yeah perma groups are bad... It's much easier to target those specific people and say stop. It's no worse though then the elitist player who kills someone... comes back 1 hour later kills them again and then does it again the next day. If I at least had my gaming buddy we could talk about how the heck to stop them.

I come here to play for nostalgia and that's bad. It would be much better if I came here to play with and hang out with friends...

I appreciate that the game is here to be played. I appreciate the people who are trying to constantly add to it. It's weird in there though because it can't really be played. The core design of the game requires you to have people to play with on the PVE side. PVP gets weird because the player base is stuck dealing with elitist players or wonky balance issue, but that's a different discussion.


The game could use an OOC system for players to talk to each other and BS... It just dumb in this day and age of gaming to not have it. You can always try it. If it sucks tweak it. If it causes problems remove it.

Tried exploring a new area with 4 people, myself included. Issues stopped us. It's dumb that we can't just OOC tell or group chat each other and say hey lets try and finish this Tuesday at 5? The reality is someone out of that group is going to rage delete before the party can get back together to finish it and I'll never see the place...

That's the broken world we game in.













  

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HOT TopicLowering player numbers and its cause [View all] , Evil Outlander, Thu 11-Nov-04 07:17 PM
Reply its called xbox or vr, Jeremiah, 22-Apr-23 09:16 PM, #61
Reply RE: Lowering player numbers and its cause, Chalupah, 25-Mar-23 02:58 PM, #57
Reply RE: Lowering player numbers and its cause, Some old dude (Anonymous), 28-Mar-23 06:49 PM, #59
Reply RE: Lowering player numbers and its cause, Hiya (Anonymous), 08-Dec-22 09:15 PM #54
Reply RE: Lowering player numbers and its cause, Lhydia, 08-Dec-22 09:50 PM, #55
     Reply No need to LOL this man!, ltlbtycnji, 03-Jan-23 10:29 PM, #56
Reply You Imm's could have saved yourselves and this guy some..., (NOT Pro), 15-Nov-04 02:24 PM, #42
Reply RE: You Imm's could have saved yourselves and this guy ..., Qaledus, 15-Nov-04 04:02 PM, #43
Reply Once when I was in the army., (NOT Pro), 15-Nov-04 04:42 PM, #44
Reply RE: Once when I was in the army., Qaledus, 15-Nov-04 08:58 PM, #47
Reply About names, Jhishesh, 15-Nov-04 05:17 PM, #45
     Reply RE: About names, Cerunnir, 15-Nov-04 05:45 PM, #46
     Reply RE: About names, Qaledus, 15-Nov-04 09:20 PM, #48
          Reply RE: About names, WildGirl, 16-Nov-04 04:39 PM, #50
               Reply Erm did you pray about the name?, Narissa, 16-Nov-04 09:57 PM, #52
               Reply RE: About names, Qaledus, 17-Nov-04 09:51 AM, #53
Reply We've had this conversation before., Valguarnera, 16-Nov-04 09:50 PM, #51
Reply A lot of what you say is 100% true, BUT..., Curious, 14-Nov-04 07:54 PM, #41
Reply I love CF more today than yesterday, but not as much as..., Zepachu, 06-Dec-22 09:33 PM, #37
Reply Bingo!, Narissa, 14-Nov-04 09:17 AM, #39
Reply Excellent post. (~), Adrigon, 14-Nov-04 01:00 PM, #40
Reply I agree. (nt), JamesC, 16-Nov-04 10:04 AM, #49
Reply As another very long time player I agree with a lot of ..., Rogue, 03-Apr-23 11:04 AM, #60
Reply I can tell you why exactly, jaynus, 12-Nov-04 10:32 PM, #27
Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, nepenthe, 13-Nov-04 12:00 AM, #28
Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, Jhishesh, 13-Nov-04 12:09 AM, #29
     Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, Valguarnera, 13-Nov-04 12:24 AM, #30
          Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, Jhishesh, 13-Nov-04 12:30 AM, #31
               Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, nepenthe, 13-Nov-04 10:06 AM, #34
Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, Isildur, 13-Nov-04 02:09 AM, #32
Reply A good post, incognito, 13-Nov-04 08:49 AM, #33
Reply Ranking is Soooo much easier..., Astillian, 13-Nov-04 02:20 PM, #38
Reply Glimo's is still around? What's the site addy? n/t, KooK, 12-Nov-04 02:59 PM, #23
Reply RE: Lowering player numbers and its cause, Hozen Mijzu, 12-Nov-04 09:45 AM, #15
Reply RE: Lowering player numbers and its cause, Isildur, 12-Nov-04 12:35 AM, #8
Reply RE: Summary deletion for trivial issues:, Valguarnera, 12-Nov-04 02:10 AM, #9
Reply Another factor(s), not flame, Narissa, 11-Nov-04 11:27 PM, #7
Reply I just talked with another player, incognito, 11-Nov-04 07:30 PM, #1
     Reply So 30% of the playerbase used to be kick-ass? nt, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 11-Nov-04 07:54 PM, #2
     Reply Also I am not saying social/ganging groups are good for..., Evil Outlander, 11-Nov-04 08:23 PM, #3
     Reply RE: Social groups, Valguarnera, 11-Nov-04 11:06 PM, #5
          Reply What you see is black and white, what I see is gray, an..., Evil Outlander, 12-Nov-04 02:47 AM, #10
          Reply Makes sense, kept me thinking too, Narissa, 12-Nov-04 04:58 AM, #11
          Reply Some valid points, but you're twisting some too, incognito, 12-Nov-04 07:05 AM, #12
          Reply What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 12-Nov-04 07:15 AM, #13
               Reply RE: What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Hozen Mijzu, 12-Nov-04 09:53 AM, #16
               Reply RE: What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Isildur, 12-Nov-04 10:52 AM, #17
                    Reply RE: What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 12-Nov-04 11:47 AM, #19
                         Reply RE: What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Isildur, 12-Nov-04 12:13 PM, #20
          Reply Some answers:, Valguarnera, 12-Nov-04 09:33 AM, #14
          Reply RE: What you see is black and white, what I see is gray..., Isildur, 12-Nov-04 11:32 AM, #18
          Reply You're forgetting..., nepenthe, 12-Nov-04 02:12 PM, #21
               Reply When you say "we changed the rules", Theerkla, 12-Nov-04 02:17 PM, #22
                    Reply It was more fun being the blame magnet..., Valguarnera, 12-Nov-04 03:21 PM, #24
                         Reply I bet it was., Nivek1, 12-Nov-04 04:50 PM, #25
                              Reply RE: I bet it was., Valguarnera, 12-Nov-04 05:49 PM, #26
                                   Reply As for me..., Grurk Muouk, 13-Nov-04 10:31 AM, #35
                                   Reply Big #3 for me, Phaelim (Anonymous), 13-Nov-04 12:10 PM, #36
          Reply RE: Social groups, Chalupah, 25-Mar-23 03:01 PM, #58
     Reply You both have a point., Qaledus, 11-Nov-04 10:15 PM, #4
     Reply Another good point., Valguarnera, 11-Nov-04 11:15 PM, #6
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