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IsildurFri 12-Nov-04 10:52 AM
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#6362, "RE: What online graphical game is challenging CF?"


          

Half-life was released in October 1998. Everquest in March 1999. Warcraft and Warcraft II came out in 1994 and 1995 respectively, but they didn't start infringing on CF territory until June 1996 when Battle.net was released.

All of these (and other titles like them) are much more widespread than they used to be, to the point where it's viable now to hook up to a random server online and start fragging away. I'm not certain, not having been a part of that "scene" at the time, but I don't think this was the case in 1998 when Half-life was first released. You generally had to assemble a group of players on your own and find your own LAN to play on.

As for other games that compete with CF, I've heard people mention Diablo II, Neverwinter Nights, Guild Wars and City of Heros in addition to the most recent World of Warcraft craze.

Carrion Fields, for its part, came out in Spring 1994, so it predates the earliest of these by two and a quarter years.

My take on the whole "graphical competition" argument is this. It isn't that existing players are defecting in order to play graphical online environments, it's that potential new players are showing a preference for these alternatives instead of text-based environment (with an extremely high learning curve) like CF. There is always going to be player turnover. People leave, new people arrive. In the past the outflow has always equaled the inflow; that may not always be the case.

  

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HOT TopicLowering player numbers and its cause [View all] , Evil Outlander, Thu 11-Nov-04 07:17 PM
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     Reply No need to LOL this man!, ltlbtycnji, 03-Jan-23 10:29 PM, #56
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Reply RE: Once when I was in the army., Qaledus, 15-Nov-04 08:58 PM, #47
Reply About names, Jhishesh, 15-Nov-04 05:17 PM, #45
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     Reply RE: About names, Qaledus, 15-Nov-04 09:20 PM, #48
          Reply RE: About names, WildGirl, 16-Nov-04 04:39 PM, #50
               Reply Erm did you pray about the name?, Narissa, 16-Nov-04 09:57 PM, #52
               Reply RE: About names, Qaledus, 17-Nov-04 09:51 AM, #53
Reply We've had this conversation before., Valguarnera, 16-Nov-04 09:50 PM, #51
Reply A lot of what you say is 100% true, BUT..., Curious, 14-Nov-04 07:54 PM, #41
Reply I love CF more today than yesterday, but not as much as..., Zepachu, 06-Dec-22 09:33 PM, #37
Reply Bingo!, Narissa, 14-Nov-04 09:17 AM, #39
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Reply I agree. (nt), JamesC, 16-Nov-04 10:04 AM, #49
Reply As another very long time player I agree with a lot of ..., Rogue, 03-Apr-23 11:04 AM, #60
Reply I can tell you why exactly, jaynus, 12-Nov-04 10:32 PM, #27
Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, nepenthe, 13-Nov-04 12:00 AM, #28
Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, Jhishesh, 13-Nov-04 12:09 AM, #29
     Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, Valguarnera, 13-Nov-04 12:24 AM, #30
          Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, Jhishesh, 13-Nov-04 12:30 AM, #31
               Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, nepenthe, 13-Nov-04 10:06 AM, #34
Reply RE: I can tell you why exactly, Isildur, 13-Nov-04 02:09 AM, #32
Reply A good post, incognito, 13-Nov-04 08:49 AM, #33
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Reply RE: Lowering player numbers and its cause, Hozen Mijzu, 12-Nov-04 09:45 AM, #15
Reply RE: Lowering player numbers and its cause, Isildur, 12-Nov-04 12:35 AM, #8
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Reply Another factor(s), not flame, Narissa, 11-Nov-04 11:27 PM, #7
Reply I just talked with another player, incognito, 11-Nov-04 07:30 PM, #1
     Reply So 30% of the playerbase used to be kick-ass? nt, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 11-Nov-04 07:54 PM, #2
     Reply Also I am not saying social/ganging groups are good for..., Evil Outlander, 11-Nov-04 08:23 PM, #3
     Reply RE: Social groups, Valguarnera, 11-Nov-04 11:06 PM, #5
          Reply What you see is black and white, what I see is gray, an..., Evil Outlander, 12-Nov-04 02:47 AM, #10
          Reply Makes sense, kept me thinking too, Narissa, 12-Nov-04 04:58 AM, #11
          Reply Some valid points, but you're twisting some too, incognito, 12-Nov-04 07:05 AM, #12
          Reply What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 12-Nov-04 07:15 AM, #13
               Reply RE: What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Hozen Mijzu, 12-Nov-04 09:53 AM, #16
               Reply RE: What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Isildur, 12-Nov-04 10:52 AM #17
                    Reply RE: What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 12-Nov-04 11:47 AM, #19
                         Reply RE: What online graphical game is challenging CF?, Isildur, 12-Nov-04 12:13 PM, #20
          Reply Some answers:, Valguarnera, 12-Nov-04 09:33 AM, #14
          Reply RE: What you see is black and white, what I see is gray..., Isildur, 12-Nov-04 11:32 AM, #18
          Reply You're forgetting..., nepenthe, 12-Nov-04 02:12 PM, #21
               Reply When you say "we changed the rules", Theerkla, 12-Nov-04 02:17 PM, #22
                    Reply It was more fun being the blame magnet..., Valguarnera, 12-Nov-04 03:21 PM, #24
                         Reply I bet it was., Nivek1, 12-Nov-04 04:50 PM, #25
                              Reply RE: I bet it was., Valguarnera, 12-Nov-04 05:49 PM, #26
                                   Reply As for me..., Grurk Muouk, 13-Nov-04 10:31 AM, #35
                                   Reply Big #3 for me, Phaelim (Anonymous), 13-Nov-04 12:10 PM, #36
          Reply RE: Social groups, Chalupah, 25-Mar-23 03:01 PM, #58
     Reply You both have a point., Qaledus, 11-Nov-04 10:15 PM, #4
     Reply Another good point., Valguarnera, 11-Nov-04 11:15 PM, #6
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