Quislet | Thu 03-Apr-03 01:29 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#630, "RE: Just to play light Devil's Advocate."
Edited on Thu 03-Apr-03 01:46 PM
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I was left as speechless as Nepenthe by the DREAD post, so since I can add nothing worthwhile to that, I'm commenting on what led to it:
>1. "PK seems to be favored over RP. All of my efforts at RP go >unnoticed, whereas PKers get all the titles. Therefore I'm not >going to waste my time RPing."
Since titles below level 51 go away when you level, some Imms pass them out on whims. I got one just for being obsessive (the Galadonian Janitor one I keep commenting on here and on Dioxide's). The titles at level 51 are all RP based, as far as I know. Even though they often reflect the character's PK reputation, no one gets a title without RP to go with it. >2. "The IMMs treat people unequally and show favouritism. Therefore >you shouldn't bother RPing, as CF is all about who you know."
If CF was about who you know, I'd have been banned years ago. Two Imms in particular have good reason to dislike me due to long ago events. I don't know if they actively do, because they and I would rather leave it in the past. So don't ask who or why.
>3. "Empowerment RP is not worth it. I basically just RP for over 50 >hours and get absolutely nothing. The IMMs can take their RP and >shove it."
Empowerment classes, as I see them, are entirely for people interested in RP. If you don't enjoy RP, don't play those classes. RP done well is its own benefit, and can be enjoyed without any special attention.
>These perceptions might explain in part why you see lackluster >RP from more than a handful of players. This is no criticism of >anyone -- it's just that many players think RP is done in vain. >Some players feel resigned to the fact that they're not going to >get anything, and consequently their RP effort is severely inhibited. >In other words, "I'll just stick to PKing. You can RP all you want, >since it's a bunch of useless emotes."
Again, the trouble looks like RP for attention, when that's not what it's really all about.
Also, good RP is based much more in attitude and perception than emotes. You can have a successful RP career and not emote once. It's harder, but not impossible, especially if you can still use socials.
>Another observation is that a large number of players are young and >either do not understand or appreciate RP. Even if that were not so, >I'm sure you agree that asking anyone to think deeply is a tall order >in the real world -- much less in a game. You'll have to find some >way to give these players incentive to put forth the effort. Some >players with strengths in fiction writing are going to feel more at >home, but what about the casual non-writing player? It is very easy >to lapse into the mentality their RP effort is to no avail. > >I'm just mentioning the plight of the disenchanted RPer. With >my characters I try to help others develop their roles IC, and >it is not easy. I can certainly imagine your headache as a game >administrator trying to motivate the uninitiated and the skeptic >alike.
I also try to keep people motivated and develop their characters, but if they don't at heart actually want to keep at it, there's no point. Help and encouragement don't do a thing if they don't want to enjoy RP and the game itself for what they are.
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RP-related pet peeves
[View all] , nepenthe, Fri 28-Mar-03 07:39 AM
Comments, replies and extra peeves.,
Marcus_,
08-Apr-03 10:57 AM, #59
7) The amazing halting role. - Honesty,
Deavr,
02-Apr-03 11:15 PM, #50
I have sooo much writing to do now!,
Xandrya,
03-Apr-03 01:07 PM, #55
I have a small request.,
Exit,
31-Mar-03 03:24 AM, #41
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Llohuir,
30-Mar-03 09:34 PM, #39
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Quislet,
31-Mar-03 12:37 PM, #42
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Sabiene,
29-Mar-03 03:17 AM, #22
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
nepenthe,
29-Mar-03 04:07 AM, #23
Just to play light Devil's Advocate.,
Zefarah,
29-Mar-03 12:19 AM, #20
RE: Just to play light Devil's Advocate.,
Valguarnera,
29-Mar-03 01:59 AM, #21
RE: Just to play light Devil's Advocate.,
nepenthe,
29-Mar-03 04:49 AM, #24
The Dread of trying to inspire RP.,
Zefarah,
30-Mar-03 07:34 PM, #38
I am speechless. I am without speech.,
nepenthe,
31-Mar-03 02:10 AM, #40
Wherein I am boggling at the concept!,
Xandrya,
03-Apr-03 12:59 PM, #54
Very good sentiments and I would like to add something,
Anal_Retentive,
01-Apr-03 04:26 PM, #44
RE: Very good sentiments and I would like to add someth...,
Valguarnera,
01-Apr-03 04:51 PM, #45
I understand this but,
Anal_Retentive,
02-Apr-03 01:17 AM, #46
But, but, but...,
Ululari,
02-Apr-03 06:22 PM, #47
You totally missed my point n/t,
Anal_Retentive,
02-Apr-03 08:35 PM, #48
Thank you for telling me that n/t,
Ululari,
03-Apr-03 03:41 PM, #57
I'll try to clarify a few things,
Savraeth,
02-Apr-03 09:00 PM, #49
RE: The Dread of trying to inspire RP.,
Doge,
03-Apr-03 05:27 PM, #58
RE: Just to play light Devil's Advocate.,
Ladrias,
29-Mar-03 08:58 AM, #25
The first perception is downright wrong,
Xandrya,
29-Mar-03 04:15 PM, #27
RE: Just to play light Devil's Advocate.,
Quislet,
03-Apr-03 01:46 PM #56
An additional thought about roles:,
nepenthe,
28-Mar-03 10:46 PM, #19
Definitely!,
Xandrya,
29-Mar-03 04:23 PM, #26
Deleted message,
josiah (Anonymous),
29-Mar-03 09:29 PM, #28
No, that can blow up in YOUR face.,
nepenthe,
29-Mar-03 09:41 PM, #29
Deleted message,
josiah (Anonymous),
29-Mar-03 10:04 PM, #30
RE: Let's discuss ethos then.,
Valguarnera,
29-Mar-03 11:47 PM, #31
Deleted message,
josiah (Anonymous),
30-Mar-03 12:09 AM, #32
Uncle Z says 'Shut your festering gob, you tit' (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
30-Mar-03 12:44 AM, #33
Uncle Z also says 'Please don't astroturf here either',
Zulghinlour,
30-Mar-03 02:15 AM, #35
Im sorry, but here is where I put my foot down.,
Korran,
30-Mar-03 09:52 AM, #36
Wow.,
Jhyrbian,
30-Mar-03 01:33 AM, #34
RE: An additional thought about roles:,
General_Malaise,
14-Jul-04 01:43 PM, #61
A few additions:,
Amaranthe,
28-Mar-03 07:56 PM, #18
Felars and Arials,
Xandrya,
31-Mar-03 02:32 PM, #43
RE: Felars and Arials,
Quislet,
03-Apr-03 10:29 AM, #53
RE: A few additions:,
Vashka,
03-Apr-03 03:04 AM, #51
RE: A few additions:,
Quislet,
03-Apr-03 10:09 AM, #52
Marginal aside re: Emotes,
Valguarnera,
28-Mar-03 05:27 PM, #15
RE: Marginal aside re: Emotes,
Racli,
28-Mar-03 06:18 PM, #16
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Valkenar,
28-Mar-03 03:46 PM, #8
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
nepenthe,
28-Mar-03 04:37 PM, #10
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Hutto,
28-Mar-03 03:36 PM, #7
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
nepenthe,
28-Mar-03 05:21 PM, #14
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Hutto,
14-Jul-04 11:22 AM, #60
I'm guilty of some,
jasmin,
28-Mar-03 01:07 PM, #6
RE: I'm guilty of some,
nepenthe,
28-Mar-03 04:47 PM, #11
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Xandrya,
28-Mar-03 12:54 PM, #4
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Nivek1,
28-Mar-03 12:29 PM, #5
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Valkenar,
28-Mar-03 03:58 PM, #9
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
nepenthe,
28-Mar-03 05:19 PM, #13
Boy, I agree with just about everything said.,
permanewbie,
28-Mar-03 10:33 AM, #3
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Larcat,
28-Mar-03 09:02 AM, #2
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
nepenthe,
28-Mar-03 04:56 PM, #12
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
incognito,
28-Mar-03 08:21 AM, #1
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Boldereth,
28-Mar-03 07:38 PM, #17
RE: RP-related pet peeves,
Quislet,
30-Mar-03 02:09 PM, #37
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