Valguarnera | Sat 13-Jan-07 09:49 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
6904 posts
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#940, "RE: No"
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Do you think that every weapon is ok as long as there is no other way of winning with less casualty's?
I think in the situation in question, the first atomic weapon was the best choice. The rest of the question is a slippery slope question, and not relevant-- the answer would be "case by case".
How many Japanese civilians died due to US attacks and how many US civilians died due to attacks from Japan?
That's completely irrelevant, since Japan lacked the air and sea power to attack the U.S. mainland, and lost the ability to reach Hawaii right after Pearl Harbor. In every country they could reach, they inflicted massive civilian casualties. (They're responsible for upwards of 7,000,000 Chinese civilian casualties, and 4,000,000 civilian deaths during their occupation and forced labor programs within Indonesia.)
The Japanese lost an estimated 600,000 civilians during the war, almost all in the late push in Spring/Summer 1945, after repeated refusals to surrender. Again, the Allies exhausted other options, barring a conventional invasion, before the decision was made to use the atomic weapon.
How would you have ended the war, then? It's a fair question if you criticize the US for using atomic weapons there. What's the alternative? Everything I can think of would have cost a lot more lives.
valguarnera@carrionfields.com
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Like there wasn't enough to worry about
[View all] , Marcus_, Fri 05-Jan-07 08:31 AM
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Vortex Magus,
10-Jan-07 11:21 AM, #14
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Marcus_,
11-Jan-07 04:45 AM, #19
Ummm,
DurNominator,
11-Jan-07 07:18 AM, #20
Are you serious?,
Chuntog,
11-Jan-07 09:45 AM, #21
RE: Are you serious?,
Rodriguez,
11-Jan-07 01:45 PM, #22
RE: Are you serious?,
Chuntog,
12-Jan-07 08:59 AM, #27
Well,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 12:58 PM, #28
RE: Hiroshima and Nagasaki:,
Valguarnera,
12-Jan-07 01:47 PM, #29
I think Dresden might be a poor example.,
GinGa,
12-Jan-07 02:21 PM, #31
RE: I think Dresden might be a poor example.,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 03:09 PM, #33
The emphasis was meant on the target.,
GinGa,
12-Jan-07 04:41 PM, #38
Sorry, was a misunderstanding. /nt,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 04:53 PM, #39
I am not a military expert,,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 03:08 PM, #32
RE: I am not a military expert,,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-07 03:27 PM, #34
RE: I am not a military expert,,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 04:00 PM, #35
Isn't this one of the 10%?,
Valguarnera,
12-Jan-07 04:26 PM, #36
No,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 05:41 PM, #40
RE: No,
Valguarnera,
13-Jan-07 09:49 AM #43
RE: No,
Rodriguez,
13-Jan-07 11:01 AM, #44
RE: No,
Daevryn,
13-Jan-07 11:51 AM, #45
RE: No,
DurNominator,
13-Jan-07 12:21 PM, #46
Over a million.,
Valguarnera,
13-Jan-07 12:56 PM, #47
If the war continued like it did before, yes maybe.,
Rodriguez,
13-Jan-07 01:39 PM, #48
Question:,
Daevryn,
13-Jan-07 03:21 PM, #49
In that case it truly would make no difference. /nt,
Rodriguez,
13-Jan-07 04:30 PM, #50
Japan,
Chuntog,
15-Jan-07 12:58 PM, #51
It's also worth mentioning...,
Daevryn,
15-Jan-07 01:46 PM, #52
RE: It's also worth mentioning...,
Valguarnera,
15-Jan-07 02:06 PM, #53
...or try to invade Swizerland,
Rodriguez,
15-Jan-07 03:28 PM, #54
Hmm, thats a good point... /nt,
Rodriguez,
15-Jan-07 03:29 PM, #55
Militarily Unneccessary,
Linolaques,
15-Jan-07 11:07 PM, #56
RE: I am not a military expert,,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-07 04:30 PM, #37
Sounds good in theorie,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 05:52 PM, #41
RE: Sounds good in theorie,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-07 06:03 PM, #42
I play with bacillus anthracis all the time...,
Sapphire_Eyes (Anonymous),
08-Jan-07 11:56 PM, #10
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
somebody,
08-Jan-07 05:10 PM, #4
RE: Biological Weapons:,
Valguarnera,
08-Jan-07 05:58 PM, #5
RE: Biological Weapons:,
somebody,
08-Jan-07 09:01 PM, #6
RE: Biological Weapons:,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-07 10:15 PM, #8
Just forget it,
somebody,
08-Jan-07 10:24 PM, #9
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Igsoeh,
08-Jan-07 09:46 PM, #7
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Rodriguez,
09-Jan-07 05:53 AM, #11
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Igsoeh,
09-Jan-07 06:17 PM, #12
Hmm,
Rodriguez,
10-Jan-07 08:47 AM, #13
RE: Hmm,
Igsoeh,
11-Jan-07 11:52 PM, #24
We have world police. The UN.,
GinGa,
10-Jan-07 04:56 PM, #15
So true, its sad. /nt,
Rodriguez,
10-Jan-07 05:28 PM, #17
RE: We have world police. The UN.,
Igsoeh,
11-Jan-07 11:34 PM, #23
RE: We have world police. The UN.,
DurNominator,
12-Jan-07 03:54 AM, #25
RE: We have world police. The UN.,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 05:08 AM, #26
Blatantly false accusations. (and some foot stamping),
GinGa,
12-Jan-07 02:16 PM, #30
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Valguarnera,
05-Jan-07 10:27 AM, #1
What is your job? n/t,
Stunna,
08-Jan-07 10:41 AM, #2
From below:,
Valguarnera,
08-Jan-07 02:39 PM, #3
Two things I'd like to ask you,
GinGa,
10-Jan-07 05:10 PM, #16
RE: Two things I'd like to ask you,
Valguarnera,
10-Jan-07 06:10 PM, #18
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