DurNominator | Sat 13-Jan-07 12:21 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#943, "RE: No"
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> >>How many civilians would die in such an invasion? > >I think 'millions' is safe to say.
I think not, unless your troops would put up some kind of holocaust-like action.
From Wikipedia on Iraq war:
An independent method for estimating the number of Iraq dead is by using national surveys of mortality. A study in The Lancet estimates 654,965 Iraqi deaths (with a range of 392,979 to 942,636) from March 2003 to July 2006, using this methodology <18> <19>. That total number of deaths (civilian and non-civilian) includes all excess deaths due to increased lawlessness, degraded infrastructure, poor healthcare, etc, and includes civilians, military deaths and insurgent deaths.
Wikipedia on Vietnam war casualties(the highest estimate on Vietnamese civilian casualties):
3. Edward Doyle, Samuel Lipsman, et al, Setting the Stage. Boston: Boston Publishing Company, 1981.
U.S. - 57,605. South Vietnamese military - 220,357. Republic of Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and Thailand - not listed. DRV and NLF deaths - 444,000. Combined DRV and RVN civilian deaths -587,000.
Wikipedia on Holocaust(snippets from it's article):
The following estimates provide a range of the number of victims:
An estimated 5 to 6 million Jews,<11> including 3 million Polish Jews 1.8 – 1.9 million Christian Poles and other (non-Jewish) Poles (estimate includes civilians killed as a result of Nazi aggression and occupation but does not include the military casualties of Nazi aggression or the victims of the Soviet occupation of eastern Poland and of deportations to Central Asia and Siberia)<12> 200,000–800,000 Roma & Sinti (Gypsies) 200,000–300,000 people with disabilities 80,000–200,000 Freemasons<13> 100,000 communists 10,000–25,000 homosexual men 2,500–5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses<14>
The following groups of people were also killed by the Nazi regime, but there is little evidence that the Nazis planned to systematically target them for genocide as was the case for the groups above.
3.5–6 million other Slavic civilians 2.5–4 million Soviet POWs 1–1.5 million political dissidents Additionally, the Ustaša regime, the Nazis' allies in Croatia, conducted its own campaign of mass extermination against the Serbs in the areas which it controlled, resulting in the deaths of 500,000–1.2 million Serbs.
In short, of these three, only holocaust managed to get it's casualty numbers to millions, as was your 'safe' estimate. Hundreds of thousands, quite possibly, but millions, unless your troops are like Nazis..
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Like there wasn't enough to worry about
[View all] , Marcus_, Fri 05-Jan-07 08:31 AM
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Vortex Magus,
10-Jan-07 11:21 AM, #14
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Marcus_,
11-Jan-07 04:45 AM, #19
Ummm,
DurNominator,
11-Jan-07 07:18 AM, #20
Are you serious?,
Chuntog,
11-Jan-07 09:45 AM, #21
RE: Are you serious?,
Rodriguez,
11-Jan-07 01:45 PM, #22
RE: Are you serious?,
Chuntog,
12-Jan-07 08:59 AM, #27
Well,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 12:58 PM, #28
RE: Hiroshima and Nagasaki:,
Valguarnera,
12-Jan-07 01:47 PM, #29
I think Dresden might be a poor example.,
GinGa,
12-Jan-07 02:21 PM, #31
RE: I think Dresden might be a poor example.,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 03:09 PM, #33
The emphasis was meant on the target.,
GinGa,
12-Jan-07 04:41 PM, #38
Sorry, was a misunderstanding. /nt,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 04:53 PM, #39
I am not a military expert,,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 03:08 PM, #32
RE: I am not a military expert,,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-07 03:27 PM, #34
RE: I am not a military expert,,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 04:00 PM, #35
Isn't this one of the 10%?,
Valguarnera,
12-Jan-07 04:26 PM, #36
No,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 05:41 PM, #40
RE: No,
Valguarnera,
13-Jan-07 09:49 AM, #43
RE: No,
Rodriguez,
13-Jan-07 11:01 AM, #44
RE: No,
Daevryn,
13-Jan-07 11:51 AM, #45
RE: No,
DurNominator,
13-Jan-07 12:21 PM #46
Over a million.,
Valguarnera,
13-Jan-07 12:56 PM, #47
If the war continued like it did before, yes maybe.,
Rodriguez,
13-Jan-07 01:39 PM, #48
Question:,
Daevryn,
13-Jan-07 03:21 PM, #49
In that case it truly would make no difference. /nt,
Rodriguez,
13-Jan-07 04:30 PM, #50
Japan,
Chuntog,
15-Jan-07 12:58 PM, #51
It's also worth mentioning...,
Daevryn,
15-Jan-07 01:46 PM, #52
RE: It's also worth mentioning...,
Valguarnera,
15-Jan-07 02:06 PM, #53
...or try to invade Swizerland,
Rodriguez,
15-Jan-07 03:28 PM, #54
Hmm, thats a good point... /nt,
Rodriguez,
15-Jan-07 03:29 PM, #55
Militarily Unneccessary,
Linolaques,
15-Jan-07 11:07 PM, #56
RE: I am not a military expert,,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-07 04:30 PM, #37
Sounds good in theorie,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 05:52 PM, #41
RE: Sounds good in theorie,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-07 06:03 PM, #42
I play with bacillus anthracis all the time...,
Sapphire_Eyes (Anonymous),
08-Jan-07 11:56 PM, #10
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
somebody,
08-Jan-07 05:10 PM, #4
RE: Biological Weapons:,
Valguarnera,
08-Jan-07 05:58 PM, #5
RE: Biological Weapons:,
somebody,
08-Jan-07 09:01 PM, #6
RE: Biological Weapons:,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-07 10:15 PM, #8
Just forget it,
somebody,
08-Jan-07 10:24 PM, #9
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Igsoeh,
08-Jan-07 09:46 PM, #7
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Rodriguez,
09-Jan-07 05:53 AM, #11
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Igsoeh,
09-Jan-07 06:17 PM, #12
Hmm,
Rodriguez,
10-Jan-07 08:47 AM, #13
RE: Hmm,
Igsoeh,
11-Jan-07 11:52 PM, #24
We have world police. The UN.,
GinGa,
10-Jan-07 04:56 PM, #15
So true, its sad. /nt,
Rodriguez,
10-Jan-07 05:28 PM, #17
RE: We have world police. The UN.,
Igsoeh,
11-Jan-07 11:34 PM, #23
RE: We have world police. The UN.,
DurNominator,
12-Jan-07 03:54 AM, #25
RE: We have world police. The UN.,
Rodriguez,
12-Jan-07 05:08 AM, #26
Blatantly false accusations. (and some foot stamping),
GinGa,
12-Jan-07 02:16 PM, #30
RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about,
Valguarnera,
05-Jan-07 10:27 AM, #1
What is your job? n/t,
Stunna,
08-Jan-07 10:41 AM, #2
From below:,
Valguarnera,
08-Jan-07 02:39 PM, #3
Two things I'd like to ask you,
GinGa,
10-Jan-07 05:10 PM, #16
RE: Two things I'd like to ask you,
Valguarnera,
10-Jan-07 06:10 PM, #18
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