Thanks... what a great class... like almost everything new, it got slammed at first, with no good reason... nobody gave em a fair shake. I found them fairly effective at all ranks, and I do love their roleplaying possibilities. Clan Chief was never my goal. I talked with Naz a bit about it... I was going to try for Shaman, and if I continued Chuntog, I would have kept going. I spent hours speaking to Tremblefist... I'm not bitter about that at all, part of the game, I knew it was a reach. Great job yourself, and I look forward to seeing a day with new, warring clans, and plenty of Orcs on the landscape.