1: we can just move past this one since its pretty much a universal agreement that its a bad choice

2: how often is there actually a REAL punishment involved with this? Unless something drastically changed over the last few years, there is generally an echo or something to the player and its not something the staff chases down

3: same as above, how often is there actually a REAL punishment for this? I am fairly certain that the level of investment any imm is willing to make for a super rare one off occurrence is at most an echo.

Now I think that something that should also be brought up is that when #2 or #3 happen with enough regularity that it gives the impression of it being #1. If you are mowing down good align mobs and then just donating 4 gold to Jaragh and praying Sorries for the whoopies as your "atonement" then it doesn't really count imo.

If a player is choosing a path of their redemption/sorrow and they opt to involve an imm into it then they also invite the opportunity for the imm to react as their immortal character would IC both for better or worse.