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Topic subjectBans, not Denials
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70634, Bans, not Denials
Posted by Relio on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
When Al Capone got busted for tax evasion they threw the book at him because they knew, but could not prove, he was guilty of so much more.

Everyone in that chat transcript should be BANNED. They have had enough time to ruin the game, it's time for their time to be over.
70666, I have encountered vastly differing opinions
Posted by Murphy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
about who is ruining the game and whose time should be over.

Some people say it's the pussies. (I have no idea what cats got to do with it.)
Others say it's the immortals.
You seem to be of the opinion that it is the Russians.

I think whiners are the worst.
70665, BANNED
Posted by Kstatida on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
FOREVER

Gosh you ppl care so much it's hilarious. Just like the rat.
70667, Just ignore Relio, he has a habit of being hysterical (nt)
Posted by Bemused on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
gr
70688, Nah, I really got banned :)
Posted by Kstatida on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
NT
70635, Is this what you're referring to?
Posted by ice king on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
An Immortal says 'So, as you know, hanging out in a Skype channel with your cabalmates and doing what you've been doing is against the rules.'
You whisper 'excuse me?'
An Immortal says 'You can chat about CF all you want, but asking for who lists, sharing Hell info, etc. is a no-no.'
You whisper 'sharing hell info and asking who lists?'
You whisper 'I'm on discord channel'
You whisper 'that's pretty public'
You whisper 'I also talk skype with russian players'
You whisper 'sharing hell info and asking for who lists - that's not what I'm guilty of'
You whisper 'I know how Scar cares about hell'
An Immortal says 'Well, I'm looking at 17MB of (albeit poorly) translated Skype logs one of your friends (?) sent us.'
You whisper 'do you see me asking for who lists and sharing hell info?'
You whisper 'I doubt that'
An Immortal says 'So while I don't for a second think it'll do any good, I'm going to kindly request you and your friends stop abusing OOC chatrooms and such to get ahead in CF.'
You are denied access!
70636, Yes, sir. nt
Posted by Relio on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
70637, Quick with that edit button. ;)
Posted by ice king on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Damn your edit!
70638, Realized I said "everyone in the chat" in the OP. ;)
Posted by Relio on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'm an editor.
70639, LOL. The Russians have been cheating for YEARS. It's basically one of those unspoken truths...
Posted by k-b on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It's funny that it took this long. Oh well. Maybe they'll get good one day.
70640, Do you mean like NBM or Darwyn cheating?
Posted by Beront on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Or triphipdip? Or like Ordasen cheating? Or Nepe with his wife? Are they russian? You ####ing piece of rasist ####.

They didn't get deny for the same ####, aka discusssing cf things.

Hello kettle.

PS: And yes, there is the discord channel, we TALK about CF.

As for that story, I'll continue it on qhcf, because there will be a log of ####.
70641, You got denied too huh?
Posted by ice king on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Bummer. GLWYN!
70643, Not me
Posted by Beront on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I play solo, you can see it in mud, I don't need others to PK you, HA-HA-HA.
70645, RE: Not me
Posted by ice king on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
ditto ;)

you run fast
70642, Racist? Nah dude. I like Russians for the most part. I just don't like cheaters.
Posted by k-b on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
As for those other cheaters, I think most of them don't play anymore. And, yes, if they were cheating (I don't know all the stories) then good riddance.
70648, Beront.
Posted by Matrik- on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Saying "Russians cheat" does not mean "X, Y, and Z did not cheat."

You are a cheater and they are/were cheaters.

Sad. Now I'm not sure any big PK players have ever done it without cheating...

On the bright side, everyone cheating means my scores are the best since everyone else is disqualified.
70649, RE: Beront.
Posted by Beront on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
As I said, I got my leader positions without cheating, I named leaders who were worth it, even quas. I run vs ganks solo and kill it. I talk to people in discord and Skype, if it makes me a cheater, I don't care.
70668, And Daurwyn?
Posted by Murphy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
He got his leader position (in Scarab) without cheating.

Tsal ran vs ganks solo and killed it.

He talked to people via Dios PMs, if it made him a cheater, he doesn't care.

Neither of you is banned or denied and I don't think either should be. But what's the difference between you two?
70669, RE: And Daurwyn?
Posted by incognito on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
In fairness, if he gained no ic advantage, I'd say not a lot of difference.

Only difference might be that I tried to stop the ooc exploitation of explore areas for ic advantage. As emperor, if you were aware of this going on, the solution might have been an imperial edict saying not to go to hell.

As I said somewhere else I didn't have an issue with beront's character. I've not seen him log out to avoid threats. I've not felt that he acts as, or needs,a protector for an ooc buddy. And I've found that if you aren't a #### to him, he's not a #### to you either.
70670, RE: And Daurwyn?
Posted by Bemused on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
The point is that you could have had your character denied based on the leaking of your PMs. The rules CF has are too broad, subjective and open for abuse.
70686, RE: And Daurwyn?
Posted by incognito on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Hadn't I already deleted?

If not, I'd already advised that I wouldn't be around much longer.

RL coincidentally was busy around the same time. Think my major project at work was approaching the go live date.
70673, RE: And Daurwyn?
Posted by Cointreau on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM

>And I've found that if you aren't a #### to him, he's
>not a #### to you either.

I would disagree with this point. I've had Glik post oocusations on Dios about my character when i did nothing.

He has some pretty wild conspiracy theories.
70671, You're not the best
Posted by lasentia on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I con died a character at 0-23, with 30 mob losses.
I did manage 3 assists though.

I don't think you can compete with that type of skill level, and I didn't have to cheat to do it.
70687, RE: You're not the best
Posted by incognito on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
That gives me an idea.

An orc that only practices masochism.