Am I getting this right that the standard method of avoiding bat lag is the same as for cranial and blackjack i.e. AC vs bash on a headwear?

There isn't much a PC can do to mitigate bat besides having haste or blinding the paladin (in the case of passive bat). Its success rate largely boils down to the paladin's various skill percentages, dex/wis (biggest factor), and affects. On the right build it can get pretty high.

nt

It was an April 1st prank, just missed the date.

That I can tell armor doesn't seem to matter when it comes to defending against bat. I could be wrong but reading the available logs bat seemed to work just fine against a decent set including Dern gear which has some real good ac values associated to it.

I have alot more issues with bat that the lagging side which from all looks seems pretty bad both in what I have read and what I have experienced.

- The failure rate seems to be pretty low if one exists at all (I have seen it fail from user perspective but no idea if perfected or not)
- It can be done up to more than once a combat round and it can be used to start combat. I cannot think of any other move that can be used to start combat while also giving good chasing ability right after dealing damage due to the user lag of less than a round
- I have not seen the skill get evaded once
- It does not cause a yell regardless of where it has struck
... Which seems at odds with Paladin code
9. Respect the laws of the land and those who seek to enforce them.
- It forms stack able maledictions as well

gr

This. Mostly it doesn't work that well. In my experience w champion it's super strong until 30ish then it really really fades.

The guy ranked past 30 and lost his 2 eagle staffs. You will not see multi-kill trigger bat logs anymore with any frequency.

It is a level 10 skill, so odds are very good the users have it perfected.

I have a log of using it at level 50 while ranking in Arin'gird, I missed 12 times out of 108 strikes. Even if it does land it doesn't necessarily lag, it also doesn't necessarily maladict, only when striking arm/shoulder from what I know.

Evelinn the Preceptor of Temperance
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Level : 46 Sex : female Race : elf
Ethos : Orderly Align : Good Class : paladin
Practices: 21 Trains : 1 Hometown : Galadon
Exp : 479848 To Level : 2752 Sphere : Dedication
Age : mature, 321 years old (134 hours)
Hit Point: 751 /751 Mana : 767 /767 Move : 758 /852
Str : 18(18+10) Int : 23(23) Wis : 18(19)
Dex : 21(23+5) Con : 7 (10) Chr : 18(18)
Carry # : 31/37 Weight : 271 lb 2 oz (Max 315 lbs)
Gold : 10 Silver : 47 Copper : 461
Wimpy : 300 hp Morale : Moderate Position : Standing
Hitroll : 28 Damroll : 30
AC pierce : -115 Divinely armored AC bash : -123 Divinely armored
AC slash : -124 Divinely armored AC magic : -100 Superbly armored
AC element: -100 Superbly armored
vs Spell : -40 Well protected vs Paralysis: -17 Somewhat protected
vs Breath : 0 Not protected vs Mental : 0 Not protected
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Summon : You can only be summoned by players within PK range.
Corpseguard: You attempt to guard corpses from lower level looters.
Rescue : You allow others to rescue you.
Give : You allow things to be given to you.
Trust : You trust your group and your cabal with questionable spells/supplications.
Follow : You accept followers.
You are not thirsty.
Your stomach grumbles with hunger.
You are a Champion, dedicated to fighting with polearms and staffs.
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You are affected by:
Commune: 'crusade' modifies save vs spell by -12 for 56 hours.
Commune: 'crusade' modifies hit roll by 6 for 56 hours.
Physical effect: 'water breathing' for 25 hours.


You are focusing your bonus learning on evade.

Level 1: mace 83% polearm 100%
sword 84% staff 100%
hand to hand 92% parry 100%
rescue 79% recall 100%
shield block 75%
Level 2: improved compare 96% improved consider 100%
anoint weapon 82% beseech 1%
Level 3: first aid 89% metal armor use 100%
Level 4: enhanced damage 100%
Level 6: second attack 100%
Level 7: fast healing 100%
Level 9: aim 85% light armor use 98%
Level 10: charge 77% disarm 83%
shield bash 1% lay hands 79%
pen 1% bat 100%
Level 12: haggle 76%
Level 13: third attack 100%
Level 14: meditation 100% lore 100%
Level 15: fend 100%
Level 20: attune 84%
Level 22: pugil 100%
Level 23: slice 100%
Level 24: maneuver 79%
Level 28: fast 78% track the wicked 86%
Level 30: careful vision 86%
Level 31: marshal 100%
Level 35: legendary awareness 78% silent prayer 75%
evade 91%





civilized <750hp 635m 908mv 13174tnl (33.33%) 3 PM> Mirozah's body bends and avoids your bat.
Mirozah is in perfect health. (100%)


civilized <758hp 792m 810mv 12860tnl (34.92%) 5 PM> bat
You fail to spot a weakness in Mirozah's defenses, and wisely halt your strike.
Mirozah is covered with bleeding wounds. (50% - 75%)

Mirozah is a transmuter, transmuters do not get evade. What is being seen here I believe is the spell "Level 35: malleability"

Further to this you have not given yourself the best number cruncher chance for the skill, because your wisdom was 19 (not sure if this also impacts success to be honest).

"This strike can be executed slightly more quickly by champions who are quick, wise, and skilled in the technique."

http://www.carrionfields.net/helpsearch.php?keywords=evade


Agree on wisdom, showed score for this reason.

I will find you other logs of this echo, it was common. I believe when bat misses/evades, the victim doesn't get an echo- it doesn't initiate combat.

Speed wise I could bat twice per round. PvE wise, fend also has some interesting delay /round interactions

I got a tonne of pve mileage out of fend. Exceptional tanking skill