Randomize the council members between the classes that can join each sect.

Instead of always getting Warrior, Anti-Paladin, Assassin, Healer, maybe sometimes you get Bard, Necromancer, Thief, Shaman.

Could make it random, or you could choose whichever class is "most represented" in the Sect at that point in time.

This is something I'd put on my "if I ever have time for it" list. Unfortunately, that list is a winning lottery ticket away from being started.

n/t

Also, raiding against bard, necro, shaman sounds pretty gross.

Obviously it would take some balancing. Also, to clarify, I wasn't saying there should only be two options: warrior/ap/assassin/healer or bard/necro/thief/shaman.

Probably every "slot" should be randomized, or else use the "most prevalent in sect" logic. Or you could make them the same class as the current sect leader.

One problem with "most prevalent in the sect" is that you'd never see the bard.

Predictable, but changes as the game changes. Something similar could be done in Nexus.

But the council is one of the weakest inners right now. Earlier they explained it that centurions make it chore to retrieve and weak council balances it out. As centurions are crap now what's the reason in weak council anyway? Also the reason for nerfing centurions was that retrieving against them was too much of chore. I'd argue that retrieving from Tree was and is much more of the chore. Why there are still trees around huntress?

Cents haven't been changed at all that I am aware of. Perhaps you are thinking of something different?

I thought it's obvious I ment new opened pass into imperial lands

This doesn't invalidate your point about centurions being less useful now for blocking off access to the Palace, but you can still block it off if you have three citizens. Put centurions:

1. In Imperial Lands just north of Balator,
2. In the Olive Grove by the entrance from the Dragon Sea,
3. In Balator by the entrance from the Olive Grove.

Assassins can still use vanish to get to the Vanquisher and conjurers can do their thing, but anybody else has to attack them.

There's at least one way that bypasses these three blockposts.

I've never seen anyone use it then, so its probably not very well known.

I know of two ways into Imperial Lands: from Balator and from the olive grove.

Centurions in Imperial Lands north of the Balator entrance stop people entering from Balator. So all you need to do is stop people from getting into the olive grove.

I know of two ways into the olive grove: from Balator and from the Dragon Sea. The centurions in Balator stop people from enterinv via Balator and the ones on the ladder stop people from entering via the Dragon Sea.

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can get into olive grove from hamsah outskirts.

But even being able to walk to the palace doesn't make a summon trap less dangerous. Still a whole lot of places to set that up that just guarantee at least 2 chances to try and summon.

Centurion mobs may not have changed but centurions have changed tactically a great deal.

It's almost completely useless. The scenario you describe is good on paper but pretty much never happens. And even then it's not so hard for any hero get rid of at least one centurion before cavalry arive and be long gone. I guess you can still catch a few newbs that way but that's pretty much it.

But indeed not for defending anymore. One should be prepared to set cents mid-battle to fully utilize the potential.

This. The best case is when you can get your opponent to walk into the cents *without first knowing they're there*.

Either call them mid-battle or place them beforehand, engage your target, then pretend to be running away (but run to your cents instead).

Or call them on the border between two areas and hope someone fails to scan ahead.

Council being weakest depends on the raider's build. The blade master can make it pretty dangerous if he starts lagging a class that doesn't defend well.

Only the watcher is tough for all builds, as far as I know.

If we're talking no defenders, Scarab could be annoying for a class that relies on dispellable preps and/or can't cure maledicts.

Yeah but not for all builds.

Spirit is dangerous but not for someone with lots of Charmies.

There are builds that totally destroy the scarab inner. And often it is the ones with most reason to raid.

Which becomes near impossible if the transmuter inner does cool things before you kill him.

I mean, I can see a Lich Emperor will full charmies not totally worried about the Nexus inners...but that's really the only class I think that could solo those inners in a decent amount of time without being worried.