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Forum Name Gameplay
Topic subjectAcademy:
Topic URLhttps://forums.carrionfields.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=5434
5434, Academy:
Posted by Little Timmy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Having to run to Galadon -twice- to do the first two parts of the newbie quest with lowbie moves when having, say, Arkham as a hometown is a little ridiculous. Granted, wherever you are, you have to run around a little, but this is extreme. I'm not sure the academy no longer always opening to Galadon is a good idea.

Also, the cabal hallway in the Academy is outdated. Might want to look at that.

Timmy
5438, RE: Academy:
Posted by Qaledus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Having to run to Galadon -twice- to do the first two parts of
>the newbie quest with lowbie moves when having, say, Arkham as
>a hometown is a little ridiculous. Granted, wherever you are,
>you have to run around a little, but this is extreme. I'm not
>sure the academy no longer always opening to Galadon is a good
>idea.

From the way you describe that, I'm not sure if the problem is
your assumptions or something else. Send Valg an e-mail with
the specifics of what happened and I'm sure he'll take a look.

>Also, the cabal hallway in the Academy is outdated. Might want
>to look at that.

It's on the list!
5446, RE: Academy:
Posted by Little Timmy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Well, I don't think it's a bug or me messing up, since I recall a short discussion about this previously. What it seems is that you can no longer go directly to Galadon from the academy if you have a different hometown, or if you have a few certain hometowns. Mine is Arkham.
5447, Do the quest in the academy
Posted by Phaistus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
with your hometown as arkham. You will know what he means.
5448, Got it. (n/t)
Posted by Qaledus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>with your hometown as arkham. You will know what he means.
5469, This is fixed.
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Basically, if you haven't gotten past the Galadon part of that quest, the Academy will still let you out into Galadon.

Otherwise, expecting new players to go Academy->Arkham->Galadon->Academy->Arkham->Galadon->Arkham just to deliver the first set of maps is... cruel.

In related news, there's a little extra information in one part of that quest, alerting you to a way to restock movement points during the walk-y parts that you do still have to do.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com
5470, As a separate point
Posted by incognito on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Isn't half the point of the newbie quest to make you know where the cities lie relative to each other? You don't get that by walking straight back down from your recall into Galadon if you used recall to get to Arkham in the first place, which I have no doubt you would have if you don't like walking.

Personally, whilst resting can be a pain, I'd say it is the experienced players that would want to skip the walk, whilst for newbies it is actually teaching them something.
5471, Hrm?
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
You still need to walk from Galadon to Arkham. The difference is, if you do it the way the quest was originally designed, NPCs give you rough directions, a boat, a map, and possibly other pointers.

That's very different from the first NPC sending you to the Temple of the Moon and being dropped off in the middle of Arkham with no pointers on what to do next (and no boat).

valguarnera@carrionfields.com
5474, but do you have to walk?
Posted by incognito on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
If your hometown is Arkham, what stops you just talking to the mapguy, getting a boat, and recalling to Arkham, delivering, then going down from the pit to get back to Galadon and heading off from there?
5479, RE: but do you have to walk?
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Largely, not knowing how to go from A to B in the latter stages of the quest, when you've been given directions from point C. There's lots of ways to shorten it if you're an experienced player who knows all of these things, but that quest's target audience isn't experienced players.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com