They simply don't matter, and I know for a fact I got scared of it when I first started playing cause I felt like I was gonna ruin my char by not rolling properly. Nowadays I always just pick minimum strength.

Can we just give everyone set stats to start, instead of rolling?

But can we get a sense of what goes into the charge calculation?

Is it just something straightforward like PKs since last death?
PK ratio over last 10 kills/deaths?

What I'd think would be good would be:
Total = (Total PKs / 75) ^ 1.5
Streak = (PKs since last death ^ 1.15) / 10

charge value = Total + Recent

If kills since last killed by this ap < 2
charge value = charge value / 2
else If kills since last killed by this ap < 1
charge value = 0

These particular numbers give about 1-3 charges across 75-200 PKs range, and 1 - 7 charges across the 10-50 kill streak range.

Is it anything like this?

P.S. Why yes, I did just waste some time coming up with numbers nobody cares about.

Maybe max stats to start with? Will help newbies and really not affect gameplay much. One could do something like no starting trains and you get an extra train every 10 levels. So 5 total. Age changing stats would have to be looked over too.

Can't get starting wis as 2 below max on a fire giant.

I miss the days of getting the perfect role. Granted, the new rolling system gets you an 'acceptable' role WAY WAY quicker than the old, but I liked the opportunity to put in more time for more of a payout.

Lameness. I did not like the old rolling system at all. It just made a newbie who had no idea what they were doing get a really ####ty roll and have no idea.

When they redid the rolling system, they lowered the 'max roll' on most races. You used to be able to roll much closer to racial maximums than you can now.

I most definitely DO NOT miss using my roller

I most definitely DO miss the 'better' set of starting stats.

>When they redid the rolling system, they lowered the 'max
>roll' on most races. You used to be able to roll much closer
>to racial maximums than you can now.
>
>I most definitely DO NOT miss using my roller
>




>I most definitely DO miss the 'better' set of starting stats.

I really wish that very low int/wisdom races started closer to racial
max and human races. It means not having people new to the game,
struggle with finding gear to raise their stats to max or keep that
piece(s) of fine leather so that one's stats stay up or a shifter
reverting to avoid lost practices due to gear maxing wisdom, etc.
This isn't a big problem for races that spend 1 practice per skill or
get more than 3 practices per level, in most instances.

I kinda did like getting a perfect roll. On some races you cannot get close to a perfect roll now to cover your main stats (even with the 3 trains you get).

I suppose, I mostly agree with you.

I was curious. Does not appear you can get 13 int, but you can get 15 wis. Also, looks like you can not get 14 int & 15 wis, because the other stats all have a variance of 1, but wisdom has a variance of 2.
I like the variation of rolls, becuse it allows people to use their limited trains in slightly different ways.

By what name do you wish to be mourned?

stetrul
Did I get that right, Stetrul?


What is your race?



fire

What is your sex?
You don't get many trains, so choose well.

20str 15int 17wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 16dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 17wis 16dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 17wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 17wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 16dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 17wis 16dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 17wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 17wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 14int 17wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 17wis 16dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 17wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 17wis 16dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 17wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 17wis 16dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 17wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
19str 15int 17wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 17wis 15dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 16dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 17wis 15dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 17wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 15wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 15wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 14int 17wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 14int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 14int 17wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 17wis 15dex 21con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 14int 17wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 16wis 15dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
20str 15int 16wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?
n
21str 15int 15wis 16dex 22con. Accept these stats?

y

Your character has evil tendencies.


Stetrul the Scrapper

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Level : 1 Sex : male Race : fire
Ethos : Orderly Align : Evil Class : warrior
Practices: 5 Trains : 3 Hometown : Galadon
Exp : 2000 To Level : 2000 Sphere : No sphere chosen
Age : young, 100 years old (0 hours)
Hit Point: 100% Mana : 100% Move : 100%
Str : herculean 21(21) Int : average 15(15)
Wis : average 15(15) Dex : average 16(16)
Con : hearty 22(22) Chr : average 15(15)
Carry # : 14/34 Weight : 51 lb 12 oz (Max 302 lbs)
Gold : 0 Silver : 0 Copper : 150
Wimpy : 0 % Morale : Moderate Position : Standing
AC pierce : Defenseless AC bash : Defenseless
AC slash : Defenseless AC magic : Defenseless
AC element: Defenseless
vs Spell : Not protected vs Paralysis: Not protected
vs Breath : Not protected vs Mental : Not protected
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Summon : You can only be summoned by players within PK range.
Corpseguard: You attempt to guard corpses from lower level looters.
Rescue : You allow others to rescue you.
Give : You allow things to be given to you.
Trust : You trust your group and your cabal with questionable spells/supplications.
Follow : You accept followers.

You are not thirsty.
You feel completely full.
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You are affected by:

civilized <100%hp 100%m 100%mv 2000tnl (50.00%) 5 PM>

nt

They might be able to cover a stat they want maxed with gear but they do not know gear that covers that for what they are playing.
A lot of the time the stat you choose is the one you least care about (which is simple for mages usually).
Or the one you think you can cover the easiest with gear.
EX: I want to play a villager and maybe I cannot find a non-magical equivalent for Int (because I hate slow skill learns).

At least now you cannot mess up stat rolling nearly as badly as you used to be able to.

I'm not sure I agree. It only adds a few seconds to the rolling process. The variance is so low that you can repeat all your options within a few seconds, but still allows some customizability with your starting character that takes us away from the feel of cookie cutter MMO.

I think newer players SHOULD get that scared feeling that they have support for their questions but no guard rails and they can mess up their character permanently. Emphasizes what's cool about the game, and after all, in a few minutes they're going to be training stats at their guildmaster.

Just my own two cents, but I think I like it the way it is, and I'd much rather limited immplementor time was used for something else.