With Halfies losing their exp penalty I can't think of a good reason to play humans anymore.

RP reasons aside, their vulns are minimal.

I always felt Halfies sould have been better than their parents and with a higher penalty. Given that one of the reasons for exp penalties was to encourage rarity, does it make sense that there are so many half-breeds?

I remember WOW had a joke about their being more Halfies than humas and elves combined...that seems to be the case here too.

Is it?

Do humans need more love?

You always make every discussion something "against" something else. Why must everything be a conflict with you? Why does everyone of your discussions have some side that is missing out and "needs more love"? The imms gave the all players benefits all the way across the board by removing those exp pentalties. That's a lot of love. I'm not saying they're perfect. I'm saying christ you really try to find reasons to complain.

It's only a conflict with me if you want it to be.

Like this senseless post you just made attacking me.

You could have simply read my post and said yes or no. But instead you decided to read way more into it than was there and light a flame.

It's only a conflict with you if I want it to be? Senseless post "attacking" you? Most of what you say are senseless whiney rants. If I'm really making this more than it is, why is someone else creating a whole new thread asking your posts be made invisible after a certain time because they are nothing but a waste of space?

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One of the halfs is the least played or among least played combos among most classes in CF.

5019 humans played
670 half-elves played
918 half-drows played

So it isn't as you claim.

The herbal focus edge was the main reason I went human over cloud with my Druid.

It's a small, but very significant, difference.

More edges for humans, I say.

I'd rather have halfies lose their ability to choose prime stat.
And humans should be able to choose it regardless of class.

Human AP with 23 int.
Human thief with 23 str.
Human shapeshifter with 23 con.
Human transmuter with 23 dex.
Human paladin with 23 wis.

Yes please.

"Human AP with 23 int"

*drool*

23 int, 20 str, 20 dex, 20 con...I don't know it doesn't sound that good to me.

Near Drow intelligence plus 4 more CON and no vulns?

And no dex for lashes, faceslash and no sneak...I feel like against people you can't kill entirely with sleep + vault you're going to have a lot of problems...I mean keep in mind that even drow sleep on an AP isn't as good as spellcraft on a necro...so if that's all you're in it for you're way better off with a necromancer.

23 and 0 exp penalty has a much greater chance of landing sleep than 24 int and 400 exp penalty. Necromancers don't get vault.

By the time you reach level 36 you can't bash anyone you can beat in melee, so you need to sleep people to get kills. A 23 int human would be optimal for this. If you think I play A-P's because they are mechanically strong you are very much mistaken - I'm quite aware I'd be better off with a necromancer, invoker or warrior, however anything that would increase the viability of the class would be very much welcomed.

On a side note, I'm not entirely convinced that faceslash is dex based.

At hero especially I have a hard time justifying some of their combinations currently.

Heroing has become easy enough that time-to-hero isn't a compelling argument for picking a low penalty anymore, either. There was a time that picking cloud ranger meant you were committing to a lot more painful leveling.

Mutually exclusive set of edges which give some kind of combat bonus to human warriors wielding their specialized weapon, or the versatility version, unspecialized weapons.

I think in theory humans are supposed to be one of the most populous races so how about some sort of blend in edge? It might be that when a human is in a highly populous place they would be easy to miss. For example, you could see them in the area with the where command but when in the same room you might not see them in that room unless you did something directly at them like look human or murder human.

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These ideas are based off of Herbal Focus, which is a seriously significant boost for a human druid. I don't see any of the other races (except maybe woodies) having perks that can compete with an extra set of herbs. That said, I tried to think of things along the same lines.

AP:
Pool of Knowledge-Drawing on the breadth (if not depth) of human knowledge, human AP's with this edge get a boost to all
their spells.

Assassin:
Hiding in Plain Sight-Human assassins with this edge get more value out of stalking done in Thera's cities. Who would
notice just another human skulking about, after all?

Bard:
Rich History-Drawing from the songs of humanity's varied cultures, bards with this edge get a bonus to songs sung outside
of their preferred repertoire.

Conjurer:
Human conjies don't need a boost.

Healer:
Human healers probably don't need a boost.

Invoker:
Extra Affinity is slightly more expensive for humans, but it garners two points each time it's taken.

Necro:
Human necros don't need a boost.

Paladin:
Blood of the First Men-Human paladins with this edge get a bonus to communes that are not part of their virtues.

Ranger:
Human rangers probably don't need a boost.

Shaman:
Probably something like what I suggested for paladins.

Shapeshifter:
At Least I'm Not a Gnome-Human shapeshifters can get locate object with this rather expensive edge.

Thief:
I'm not convinced that human thieves need a boost.

Transmuter:
Flat-Eyed Ogler: Human transmuters with this edge can use consider while in duo-dimension. that you can't consider while flat.]

Warrior:
Human warriors might need a boost, but I'm not entirely convinced of it.

My two cents.

You'd think humans getting a little love would be the reason for there being so many half-breeds.

Just saying.

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