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Topic subjectEyes of Flame
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49317, Eyes of Flame
Posted by Quixotic on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I don't wish to rain on Wujin's thread, as I knew he was effective as a squire back when I too was playing a fortie. Somehow, I think you (Daevryn) felt I was criticizing Wujin's merits, and that is simply not the case.

Maybe it is simply that Thera is populated with a higher percentage of vets, or maybe more people level sit until they make maran, but there still seems to be a far greater percentage of people who earn maran than five years ago, and many of them sit in a range where APs and necros are going to find that limited-lag autoattack very, very difficult to combat.

If more people are indeed going to be made maran at a low level, then the power of eyes of flame should better compare to powers of other cabals at that level. Consider giving it a timer, an upkeep cost, self-lag that prevents reengagement, or a chance of failure. Alternatively, make more necromancer and AP mobs summonable or increase the level of the power so lowbie necros and APs, who really are glass cannons, are better suited to fight the lowbie maran.
49322, Or
Posted by incognito on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
they could gear for hp?
49324, Hey, eyes of flame doesn't do diddle fighting many classes
Posted by Quixotic on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
but it seriously messes up APs and necros.

I'm sure you three play a helluva lot more APs than I do, so I will defer to your expertise. My experience in multiple engagements was that when I fought a well-geared Wujin and a similarly geared maran hunter, even with shield and aura and gearing strictly for hps, after two rounds I had to bug out, and because of Eyes, flee-return was not an option.

49321, The problem is that early Maran isn't as common as you seem to think.
Posted by Java on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It's hard to call something a real problem that needs addressing, when it takes an exceptional character to be able to do it.

I'm curious how many pre-40 Maran you think are out there right now, because I'd be willing to bet there's fewer than that.
49318, Eh, I disagree. Lowbie's is usually a death sentance when slept.
Posted by CD on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM

And not too hard to pull off. They need some form of effective counter that isnt all that readily available at all times.

Its not like there are a huge amount of Marans at that rank who already didnt put in the rank killing that necro/ap already anyhow.