While anyone can answer my questions, I am really looking for confirmation from the staff on a few things.

First:

Does the intelligence stat affect assassinate?

Example:

Assuming that a drow elf assassin with 24 int and an felar assassin with 17 int both have 8 stalks on their target, and all other things are equal (both using vuln weapons etc). Does the drow have a higher % chance to be successful?

The rest of my questions, are based on things that were taught to me long ago by Manarei (Thror) and other things I read on various boards that I've always taken with a grain of salt, however when I ran with him I got my assassinate to 96% which is the highest I've ever had it..

here goes the list

True or False please.

It is better to assassinate at night 7pm-7am

Being closer (number of rooms wise) or in the same room of your target "improves" the stalk (I think this one is BS from my personal experiences)

holding a four leaf clover/using + luck items helps your chances of success

There is a diminishing return on stalks once you hit 8 or so

wearing glowing/humming items reduces your success rate (I've always thought this one was a crock)

Outside of exploiting a vuln, weapon choice has no effect on success. (Meaning, if it is a human with equal damage resistance across the board all weapons would be created equal) Obviously, you cannot assassinate with a spear/staff (although that would be flippin' awesome if I can skull-punch people to death, I should be able to club them down with a staff/skewer them with a spear)

I played two assassins to hero and made several attempts with 7-8 stalks each, never succeeded. Had my targets confirm they never saw me in the area.

As a warrior I've had a few attempts on me and they always failed except one time. That time I've seen the assassin on where and via look but he still landed the assassination.

I'm at a loss even in trying to make an educated guess.

Also wonder how much of an effect does the eyes in the back of your head edge have? Unpredictable edge?

>While anyone can answer my questions, I am really looking for
>confirmation from the staff on a few things.
>
>First:
>
>Does the intelligence stat affect assassinate?

Nope, outside of how much % of assassinate you get when spending practices at your guildmaster before it hits learned (75%).

>True or False please.
>
>It is better to assassinate at night 7pm-7am

False.

>Being closer (number of rooms wise) or in the same room of
>your target "improves" the stalk (I think this one is BS from
>my personal experiences)

False.

Although I've always had it in the back of my head to implement a version of this (stalking in the room slightly better than now, stalking in scan range similar to now, stalking further away slightly worse than now) and may do it some day, to date it has never gone in.

>holding a four leaf clover/using + luck items helps your
>chances of success

False.

>There is a diminishing return on stalks once you hit 8 or so

I won't answer for this specific number, but in rough principle this is true. There is a point beyond which more stalking is maintaining your readiness to assassinate but not appreciably helping your chances.

>wearing glowing/humming items reduces your success rate (I've
>always thought this one was a crock)

False.

>Outside of exploiting a vuln, weapon choice has no effect on
>success. (Meaning, if it is a human with equal damage
>resistance across the board all weapons would be created
>equal) Obviously, you cannot assassinate with a spear/staff
>(although that would be flippin' awesome if I can skull-punch
>people to death, I should be able to club them down with a
>staff/skewer them with a spear)

Vulns, resistances, and immunities count. Note that you could get really screwed by this before (vulns/resists revamp of a month or so ago changes the dynamic of this somewhat) because, for example, if you were trying to assassinate a fire giant with cold, odds are excellent they had a resist cold item and you were actually substantially crippling your chances instead of improving them.

Hand to hand is always straight up, taking no bonus or penalty for damage type no matter what.

Otherwise a weapon is a weapon in terms of whether you kill or not. Different weapons have different partial success effects, however.

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>Although I've always had it in the back of my head to
>implement a version of this...

If you ever do, can I request that it be mentioned in the help file?

Cool stuff.

Just one addition to the weapon thing: does weapon average count, either? Because if it doesn't, I'm so going to roll up an assassin and assassinate someone with a pointy stick.

A scarab assassin once assassinated me (as a hero pally) with the sharp pointy stick.

He didn't do so 'because' as I remember it, when we killed him he got looted pretty well, and so he used the stick as he wasn't proficient at regearing (he wasn't a very successful pk type scarab, but was a very good RP'r)

Have you guys ever thought of making class forums? I know you made the wiki which has good info, but this particular type of post is one that I think would do well stickied inside of a class forum. Also, it would likely have the added benefit of you not continually having to answer these questions, which I'm sure you have in the past?

Just my .02

I have zero knowledge of how the code actually works, but I'll register my guesses on the stuff you mentioned:

> intelligence stat affects assassinate

Guessing this is false. However, it probably affects how likely you are to learn on a success.

> It is better to assassinate at night 7pm-7am

Guessing this is false.

> Being closer (number of rooms wise) or in the same room of your target "improves" the stalk

Guessing this is false. It would be hard for the game to calculate how far you are from the target outside of something simple like "are you in the same room, yes or no".

> holding a four leaf clover/using + luck items helps your chances of success

Guessing this is false.

> There is a diminishing return on stalks once you hit 8 or so

Definitely true, but maybe not in the sense you mean. I doubt that later stalks "count less", but I suspect that, past a point, for every new stalk you add you're having one "expire".

> wearing glowing/humming items reduces your success rate

Guessing this is false.

> Outside of exploiting a vuln, weapon choice has no effect on success.

Guessing this is true.

You forgot:

> there is a bonus to success rate against sleeping targets

Guessing this is true. And:

> there is a bonus to success rate against resting targets

Guessing this is also true.

You have a worse memory than me bro :)

I tried to make sure that I wasn't asking questions that had already been answered. The INT affecting skillups on assassinate was answered by Daev to YOU! in response to your question about your char having 69 assassinates and 96% assassinate skill vs the others with 60 ish assassinates and 100% skill :P.

So, I know for a fact that int does not affect skillup because Daev told you!

hehe, that is why I made sure to ask if it affected % of success ;)

Isildur I love ya man, especially when you make my joke of a memory look good! :)

On all the other points though, thanks for the answers man!

It was previously stated by the imms that luck is not a factor in assassinate.

I should make a bookmark whenever someone answers my questions. Heh.

Even if it is the ones they know to be false off the top of their head.

I'm pretty sure Nep/Daev did once years ago. Unfortunately this presents several problems

#1 I can't remember his answers
#2 I can't find it using the search functions available to me

So, I am asking questions I've likely seen asked before, and perhaps even answered. I just cannot seem to find the answers.

It would have to only contain imm confirmed debunking though.