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Topic subjectIron grip control and 'force of will'
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45591, Iron grip control and 'force of will'
Posted by Anti-Paladin on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I have the iron grip control but recently an elf paladin was able to use force of will to dispel the iron grip effect.

Is this suppose to happen like this? I thought it was undispellable after the control is attained.

45593, By design.
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Dispel magic / dispel can't remove irongrip, but force of will can.

This is actually the main selling point of having force of will.
45601, And what makes raiding fort suck. nt
Posted by Artificial on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
45608, Ugh - Shame the Archmage and Empire have nothing to make a paladin risk Bal'talons, defiance of shields of light
Posted by Paladin-hater on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
45610, Archmage does, actually. nt
Posted by Twist on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
45602, Ugh.
Posted by Lhydia on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I've had two Ret Paladins at this point and always heard this about Force of Will. I used to try to use it on AP's multiple times until I finally just thought it didn't do this. I never had this happen while using it. Is it just super rare that this particular effect of FoW actually works? It always was better for me to use other tactics than spam it against buff AP's.

As Cabdru did you ever hesitate to fight Ret Paladin knowing he had this ability?

45611, RE: Ugh.
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM

>As Cabdru did you ever hesitate to fight Ret Paladin knowing
>he had this ability?

One on one, no. In groups it definitely factored into my planning if I knew I was dealing with one.

(And before I really got rolling, also no -- there was a point where I was more fixated on controls than charges, exactly.)
45644, Any thoughts on lowering numbers for controls by say 20%?
Posted by Anti-Paladin on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Given the lower numbers in general of the playerbase?

Just a thought.
45649, Why? It's not THAT low...
Posted by Amberion on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
... I've had 2 hero APs 1 lvl 40 and 1 lvl 36, one obtained up to acid, one obtained up to infernal. It didn't feel impossible in any way. Sure, wasn't easy, but who said getting AP controls SHOULD be easy? :D

If I as a "newbie" AP-player did that, with the current playerbase, playing EURO hours... Then perhaps it is too easy? ;)
45648, When I played Cawr and Fjodir it was basically a "no go" to retrieve against Ret pallys with allies....
Posted by Amberion on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
... I ever only think I've seen it used against me two or three times though, all three times it worked however, which ended up with a "ca excision return self" or "flee/tele"... Or something similar.
45609, Thanks for the reply n/t
Posted by Anti-Paladin on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
n/t
45614, RE: By design.
Posted by Anti-paladin on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Do you really really think that this is good design?
45615, RE: By design.
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
If I didn't, I would have changed it a long time ago.