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42309, Okay, Conspiracy time. What is THIS?
Posted by Orc on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Please read throught the entire log. In the beginning I threw out a Bash and a couple rounds later my screen froze. I had tossed out a couple footstomps and they were in the buffer and when the scroll finally thawed, it shot past to where my character had wimpied. Later review showed that the foot stomps went through more or less where they should have even though I wasn't seeing this happen in real time.

I can't help but wonder why I get this in some fights but not others. But I had come to except it as some sort of data transfer traffic jam until I saw this....

(Please read to the end.)
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(Glowing) A practice sword engraved with the name 'Elf' lies here.
A vest of padded armor lies unused here.
A lightweight padded dagger intended for weapons practice lies here.
A lightweight padded sword intended for weapons practice lies here.
A lightweight padded axe intended for weapons practice lies here.
A lightweight padded mace intended for weapons practice lies here.
A lightweight padded flail intended for weapons practice lies here.
A lightweight whip intended for weapons practice lies here.
A pair of lightweight padded leather gauntlets intended for practice lie
here.
An intricate silver charity chest sits behind the white marble altar.
An elven warrior waits quietly.
Elgra is here.
Elf is here.
(White Aura) A resplendent healer garbed in ivory and gold robes heals the
wounded.

<100%hp 100%m 83% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none> Jumping to one side of
Elf, you run into her and bowl her over!
You fade into existence.
Your bash hits Elf.
Seizing upon a moment of weakness, you kick Elf while she's down!
Your vicious attack hits Elf.
Elf yells 'Help! Orc is bashing me!'
Elf has a few scratches.

<100%hp 100%m 83% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
Elf's slash misses you.
Elf's flaming bite mauls you.
An elven mercenary screams and attacks you!
An elven mercenary's slash misses you.
Elf parries your chop.
Elf dodges your frigid chop.
Elf parries your frigid chop.
Elf has a few scratches.

<94%hp 100%m 83% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
You remain safe as Elf's slash bounces harmlessly off of a girth of darkened
bronze.
Elf's slash maims you!
You parry Elf's slash.
Elf dodges your chop.
Elf dodges your frigid chop.
Elf has a few scratches.

<87%hp 100%m 83% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
Muzgash has arrived.
Elf has a few scratches.

<87%hp 100%m 83% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none> ber

An elven mercenary's slash scratches you.
Elf's slash decimates you!
Elf's flaming bite decimates you!
Elf parries your chop.
Elf parries your frigid chop.
Elf dodges your frigid chop.
Elf has a few scratches.

<74%hp 100%m 83% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none> You explode into a
berserker's rage!
In your berserking rage, you bound forward to destroy an elven mercenary! <--I assume it's because he's the first living elf in the room. Please note, I am raging.
You do the best you can!
Elf has a few scratches.

<83%hp 85%m 71% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
You dodge an elven mercenary's slash.
Elf's slash decimates you!
Elf dodges your chop.
Elf parries your chop.
Elf has a few scratches.

<77%hp 85%m 71% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
You can't see a thing!
Someone's kicked dirt grazes you.
Someone has a few scratches.

<75%hp 85%m 71% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none> f
Someone gets something from something.
Someone has a few scratches.

<75%hp 85%m 71% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none> s

You parry someone's slash.
Someone's slash maims you!
Someone's slash MUTILATES you!
Someone dodges your chop.
Your frigid chop MASSACRES someone!
Someone is covered with bleeding wounds.

<58%hp 85%m 71% 9179tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
Someone looks at someone.
Your stomp to someone's foot leaves it limping!
You have become better at footstomp (80%)! (50% learning bonus)
Your downward stomp wounds someone.
Someone is covered with bleeding wounds.

<58%hp 85%m 71% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
You rub the dirt out of your eyes.
Elf is covered with bleeding wounds.

<60%hp 86%m 79% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
You parry an elven mercenary's slash.
You parry Elf's slash.
You parry Elf's flaming bite.
You parry Elf's flaming bite.
Elf dodges your chop.
Elf parries your frigid chop.
Elf dodges your frigid chop.
Elf is covered with bleeding wounds.

<60%hp 86%m 79% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
Elf's kicked dirt misses you.
Elf is covered with bleeding wounds.

<60%hp 86%m 79% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none> fs
Muzgash gives you an oily black wineskin.
Elf is covered with bleeding wounds.

<60%hp 86%m 79% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none>

Elgra looks at you.
Elf is covered with bleeding wounds.

<60%hp 86%m 79% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none> You stomp once again on
Elf's injured foot!
Your downward stomp mauls Elf.
Elf is gushing blood.

<60%hp 86%m 79% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
You parry an elven mercenary's slash.
Elf's slash decimates you!
Elf's flaming bite MUTILATES you!
Elf's flaming bite MUTILATES you!
Elf parries your chop.
Elf parries your chop.
Elf is gushing blood.

<35%hp 86%m 79% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
Muzgash gets an oily black wineskin from the girdle of endless space.
Elf is gushing blood.

<35%hp 86%m 79% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
Muzgash looks at Elf.
Elf is gushing blood.

<35%hp 86%m 79% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized none>
You parry an elven mercenary's slash.
You dodge Elf's slash.
Elf's flaming bite devastates you!
The Cathedral of the Holy Light


You flee from combat!
---Snip--- running finding blood in my inventory and drinking it. My Berserk wears off and my screen freezes----


Elf trips you and you go down!
Elf's trip grazes you.
You yell 'Help! Elf tried to trip me!'
Elf is covered with bleeding wounds.

<50%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining>
A riverboat disembarks from the docks, gently drifting along the currents of
Voralia's Tears.
Elf is covered with bleeding wounds.

<50%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining>
You parry Elf's slash.
Elf's flaming bite maims you!
You parry Elf's flaming bite.
An elven mercenary screams and attacks you!
You parry an elven mercenary's slash.
A gleaming whitesteel shortsword glows with reassuring warmth in Elf's hand!
Elf dodges your chop.
Your frigid chop DISMEMBERS Elf!
Elf dodges your chop.
Elf is writhing in agony.

<42%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining>



Elf's slash decimates you!
A gleaming whitesteel shortsword glows with reassuring warmth in Elf's hand!
Your chop EVISCERATES Elf!
The axe glows blue as a savage anger grips you, and a low growl escapes your
lips.
Elf is convulsing on the ground.

<36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> >
Muzgash has arrived.
No way! You are still fighting! <---I'm not sure what this is.
Elf is convulsing on the ground.

<36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> An elven mercenary rescues
Elf from you!
Your chop MASSACRES an elven mercenary!
Your frigid chop EVISCERATES an elven mercenary!
An elven mercenary is DEAD!!
You receive 0 experience points (31% bonus).
An elven mercenary's severed head plops on the ground.
The gods protect an elven mercenary.
An elven mercenary is nearly dead.

<36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> Muzgash leaves west.
People near you:
Muzgash On the Southharbor Docks
(PK) Elf On the Southharbor Docks
(PK) Orc On the Southharbor Docks
Elgra On the Southharbor Docks
An elven mercenary is nearly dead.

<36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining>
Muzgash has arrived.
An elven mercenary is nearly dead.

<36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> Raul is in perfect health.

<36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> Muzgash gives you an oily
black wineskin.
Raul is in perfect health.

<36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> Raul is in perfect health.

As you can see on my "Where" Raul wasn’t anywhere around and Raul = < 7 Felar War> Raul the Sentry.

Also I wasn't entering any commands, My character seemd to be attempting to execute things on it's own with things that weren't even there.

So I feel compelled to ask. Corrupt P-File or could there be something behind the notion that one player can some how "Jam" another players character?
42362, Looks like a memory leak to me. nt
Posted by Vladamir on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
42323, That conspiracy theory is one of the dumbest to ever hit CF. (n/t)
Posted by dude on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
42350, That's exactly what someone jamming my character would say! nt
Posted by Bell on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nin
42316, RE: Okay, Conspiracy time. What is THIS?
Posted by Mort on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
First one is just plain old lag, your data went through to the server but the responses never came on time.

The latter is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangling_pointer
42313, RE: Okay, Conspiracy time. What is THIS?
Posted by Straklaw on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
><36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> An elven
>mercenary rescues
>Elf from you!
>Your chop MASSACRES an elven mercenary!
>Your frigid chop EVISCERATES an elven mercenary!
>An elven mercenary is DEAD!!
>You receive 0 experience points (31% bonus).
>An elven mercenary's severed head plops on the ground.
>The gods protect an elven mercenary.
>An elven mercenary is nearly dead.
>
><36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> Muzgash
>leaves west.
>People near you:
> Muzgash On the Southharbor Docks
>(PK) Elf On the Southharbor Docks
>(PK) Orc On the Southharbor Docks
> Elgra On the Southharbor Docks
>An elven mercenary is nearly dead.
>
><36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining>
>Muzgash has arrived.
>An elven mercenary is nearly dead.
>
><36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> Raul is
>in perfect health.
>
><36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> Muzgash
>gives you an oily
>black wineskin.
>Raul is in perfect health.
>
><36%hp 89%m 73% 9177tnl PROTECTED civilized raining> Raul is
>in perfect health.
>
>As you can see on my "Where" Raul wasn’t anywhere around and
>Raul = < 7 Felar War> Raul the Sentry.
>
>Also I wasn't entering any commands, My character seemd to be
>attempting to execute things on it's own with things that
>weren't even there.
>
>So I feel compelled to ask. Corrupt P-File or could there be
>something behind the notion that one player can some how "Jam"
>another players character?
>


1) I'm mostly certain that your issues with "Raul" is due to the fact that the PC elf ordered his mercenary to rescue him, which gives you a free round of attacks against the mercenary, killing it, and then CF is trying to set it so that you're attacking the mercenary (which now no longer exists). I would GUESS that at this point, CF couldn't figure out what to make you aim at, and picked the newest thing it could find, which I would guess would be Raul having logged in. It's rare these days, but I've seen similar bugs.

2) YEARS ago I used to have similar problems w/ lag, though I never knew what caused it and I always assumed was traffic issues. I could input commands, CF would get them, but the process back would be all jammed up and I'd get massive blocks at once. Usually this involved panicked running back to the entrance of the maus and hoping no repops or wandering zombies had occured along the way.
42310, Twist is playing an elf it seems.
Posted by Artificial on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
If, as you said, your commands were registered by the game at the time in which you sent them (that is to say, as if your screen were not frozen), then it all came whizzing by, then it sounds like a downloading issue.

(or Twist crashing the mud for pks)
42311, And the other things? Any ideas? n/t
Posted by Orc on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
dfbv
42317, RE: And the other things? Any ideas? n/t
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Bugs. Post this on the bug board.