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401, Assorted begging and whining.
Posted by Nightgaunt_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
So here comes a couple of ideas.

First I think AP's should always get atleast one charge from every paladin or goodie healer they kill, regardless how "deadly" the paladin are.(This might already be in, I dont have any first hand info and if it is I appologize.)

Let bards sing resist even if they are affected of it, like it is now if the bard gets it and one in the group does not. The groupmember cannot have it until in runs out on the bard.

Improve lore practice(ooold whine I know), let lore be easier to practice at..A: Higher rank or B: More hours into the characters.
Because a more seasoned adventurer should have learned more about the world and its items.

Same with the cabal power discern, perhaps make its extra perks rank dependant instead of practice dependant.
405, RE: Assorted begging and whining.
Posted by Xandrya on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
"Let bards sing resist even if they are affected of it, like it is now if the bard gets it and one in the group does not. The groupmember cannot have it until in runs out on the bard."

Wow, I like this idea.

I cannot tell you how many times I've had a group member get upset with me or at least "remind" me that resisting is not on them when I have it on me for another 6 hours or so. This is one of the shortest song effects though so it doesn't take too long to wear off. But it is annoying when the group relys on it and so they have to wait for it to fall before it can be sung again.

There are things a trained bard can do to counter this problem though. One thing I often do if this happens is sing "Dances with Jak" instead. I don't often use that song unless requested to by the group because it's a virtual mana hog. But if the resist isn't there for them, I figure they need some help from something else, so then I will sing it. I also always make sure that if they don't have resist, they do have Galadriel, Shield of Words, and We Come...at least that way they are covered by other effects to aid them. And another thing if your bard knows what they are doing they will keep singing Heal my Heart or Life to the Dieing until they can get the Resisting song back up for you. So while the above mentioned suggestion would be very nice indeed, there are alternatives. :)

If the Imms DO decide to implement a change to Resisting though it will be quite a welcomed change :) (It makes sense too because there really is no reason why a bard shouldn't be able to sing the song again.)
404, RE: Assorted begging and whining.
Posted by Valkenar on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>First I think AP's should always get atleast one charge from
>every paladin or goodie healer they kill, regardless how
>"deadly" the paladin are.(This might already be in, I dont
>have any first hand info and if it is I appologize.)

It's been said many times by the imms, but anti-paladins aren't all about killing paladin's and healers. The class should just be renamed "ashole" because they aren't neccesarily *anti*-paladin in the sense of wanting to kill paladins. They're anti-paladins in the sense of having many traits which are the opposite of those possessed by paladins.

Even if it were, making this change would encourage the massive multi-killing of newbies, which I would guess is why they made it so you don't get charge for people with bad PK ratios in the first place.

>Let bards sing resist even if they are affected of it, like it
>is now if the bard gets it and one in the group does not. The
>groupmember cannot have it until in runs out on the bard.

This seems eminently reasonable.

As for lore, discern... I won't comment because I don't care either way.