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Topic subjectWither and aging
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37604, Wither and aging
Posted by Murphy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
When wither lands aging effect, does it add to your current age, or reduce the maximum?
Are the effects proportional to your lifespan, or do short-lived races suffer more?
How do you know if you have been aged by wither?
I heard there is an edge that gets back years lost to withering. If it is true, how is it called?
37605, RE: Wither and aging
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>When wither lands aging effect, does it add to your current
>age, or reduce the maximum?

The latter.

>Are the effects proportional to your lifespan, or do
>short-lived races suffer more?

The latter. Specifically, it's always a certain range of number of years, regardless of whether your race lives to be 60 or 600.

>How do you know if you have been aged by wither?

You get a different echo about it ripping years from your life. It might even be colored a scary red, I can't remember for sure offhand.

>I heard there is an edge that gets back years lost to
>withering. If it is true, how is it called?

Not that I'm aware of.
37607, A possibility re the edge
Posted by incognito on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
There's an edge that gives wither the possibility of reducing dex and removes the possibility of it reducing lifespan.

Could that be what he/you heard about?
37608, RE: Wither and aging
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
This makes me want to hero an evil uncaballed shaman, then just use him to wither-spam whichever heros I don't like. :)
37610, The problem being...
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
You need them to seriously neglect their saves for it to even be possible, and in that case you probably can just run them out of con the old fashioned way.

I've been withered hundreds if not thousands of times across many characters over the years, and I don't think I've ever been aged by wither.

P.S. I know you're jonesing for a second run at Daevryn shaman.
37611, Does level difference affect it?
Posted by Marcus_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I typically never get aged by wither, but my thief got hit in 3 out of 5 attempts, with saves being Protected, Protected, Heavily protected.. (this was before we could see exact svs).. However he was level sitting at 47, and being withered by heroes.. could that be the reason?
37609, What's the purpose of it taking age?
Posted by MoetEtChandon on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Not entirely sure I like that idea. Sounds like a serious fun spoiler, if you meet a lot of Shamans, and plan to go all the way.
37615, Question for Nep.
Posted by TMNS on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Does Renewal help at all with aging due to wither?

I know it helps constitution (like +5 con if I remember) and with Thrakazhaar I seemed to make saves like my constitution was higher after I took it and heal better.
37622, RE: Question for Nep.
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Does Renewal help at all with aging due to wither?

I forget the exact specifics, but I remember that Renewal does a lot to help with wither in general (i.e., including strength loss and maybe even damage).

Edit: I looked up the specifics and it's both damage on wither and the stat loss, including -DEX from Languor of Aeons, if relevant. (In general with Wither, how much STR you lose determines how likely you are to lose years, or if you even can lose years, so indirectly it's a huge help with that too.)

Somebody should start adding this stuff with citations/links to the wiki as I spew it forth.
37626, Ohhhh...the plot thickens! nt
Posted by Gaplemo on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
37627, Question re: wither
Posted by Artificial on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
How many hours is one likely to lose, on average, when they lose years?
37628, Not hours, years. It varies from race to race.
Posted by TMNS on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Poor Orb had an arial leader char age die in like 150 hrs :(

Obviously what I am getting at is longer lived races are hurt less by it (elves, gnomes, etc) and shorter lived races are hurt more by it (humans, arials).
37629, I totally read what daev said backwards. How many hours for short lived? nt
Posted by Artificial on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
37630, Give me a registration code and I'd love to.
Posted by Tsunami on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'll work on the wiki tons.
37631, RE: Question for Nep.
Posted by Nreykre on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I've added this to the Warrior Legacy section of the official wiki (http://www.carrionfields.net/CFwiki/WarriorLegacy), as well as gone through a few pages of the Gameplay forum and made some changes to the wiki based on topics related to edges and legacies.

I'll try to round up all the "Nep/Daev clarified Xyz" posts every once in a while and incorporate them to the wiki with citations linking back to the original forum posts.
37632, The whole paragraph there is wrong, isn't it?
Posted by Murphy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It was stated several times recently, and even in this very thread, that renewal does not give any leader-like benefits. It just gives you back 5 con and makes you save vs. poison/disease/whatever as if you had max con (or maybe even higher).

Would really like someone to confirm it here so you could put the right info to the wiki.
37635, Why not update the helpfiles too? More people would see it.~
Posted by ibuki on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
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37636, 100% agree
Posted by Lokain on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I know it's probably a bigger task than I think it is, but with the way the game is right now, I think there should be a lot less mystery in the legacy helpfiles.
37637, RE: Why not update the helpfiles too? More people would see it.~
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
That makes a certain amount of sense, but I really like our foofy legacy helpfiles. :(
37645, I like them too
Posted by Valkenar on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>That makes a certain amount of sense, but I really like our
>foofy legacy helpfiles. :(

But you could just put the serious stuff under the foofy stuff.