Could someone please take a look at the immortal notes I've sent over the past three days pertaining to my character's current status and respond to them? It would be very much appreciated thank you. I didn't know how else to bring this to attention of the staff.

Level(0) NAME NAMES NAMING
Carrion Fields requires Player Character names that are compatible with a fantasy roleplay environment. The idea is to create an atmosphere that is free of outside references, and the questions you were asked upon character generation are intended to guide you in this aspect. Specifically, we do not allow words from the dictionary ("Killer") or slight variations on them ("Killa"), including slang. Combinations of words ("OrcKiller") are also forbidden for the same reason. Also, we ask that you do not take names from historical sources or published works ("Stalin", "Beowulf", "Snooky Evilkins").

Final judgment is at the discretion of the Immortal staff, and may result in deletion of the character. Take a few moments to think about your name before deciding on one during character generation.

No pressure, but nice to see you on the forums again.

(how's that for asskissing?)

Good to have you back brother.

We've had our differences, but welcome back (hopefully this means some standards shall be enforced!)

First it's good to see you're back Valguarnera and already taking up projects again.

Second I apologize for the lapse in time between my posts. It's just that I play CF as a means to kill short amounts of time in between going to work, going to sleep after getting home from work, doing laundry, etc. As such weekends tend to get the better of me.

Third I'm not looking to cause any trouble but you're the only other one on staff that even gave me a reply that was reasonably polite other than Grobbak considering that I have been equally polite (or at least so I would like to think) with my notes to immortal and my post here on the forums. Although I don't know if this is because you all think I'm a trouble-making player or not but that is neither here nor there at the moment.

Could you clarify for me what rules exactly does my character's name violate? Because from your post it seems that you may or may not be intentionally implying that the name I used is from a published piece of work when as far as I know it is a fairly original fictional name. If not then I guess I should read more books. I will however admit that it is an incredibly silly name but that's what I wanted. I wanted a silly name to have fun with on a game. I was just unaware that incredibly silly names were illegal given the number of silly names that have been used by other players in the past.

Now I don't want this turn into a big long debate so this is my last post on this topic since I am curious. Are silly names no longer allowed or is just my character's silly name? And if so, is it just because the immortals don't like it? Because even in the fantasy literature that I've read there has been always almost at least one silly name. I mean if it is that this is in fact the reason (or even if there is another reason) it is not like I can do anything about it since you also were kind enough to point out that final discretion is up to the staff. It's just that personally I like to know the reasoning behind decisions.

And thank you for taking out the time to respond to my questions and the work you put into the game. Both you and Grobbak.


As an aside to Enlith: I don't know if you were having a bad day when you made your post or perhaps I read into it incorrectly; but telling someone who doesn't know why they were called to boss' office and just asking a simple question as to why, "Or you can just quit your job. You were called in for a reason," seems kind of harsh (terrible analogy I know but it was the only one I could think of). Maybe I am naive in thinking that it is only fair that a person be made aware of what they did wrong, but that's just me. Otherwise I have nothing personally against you or any other staff member and though it wasn't the most helpful of posts I would also like to thank you for taking the time to respond to my initial post as well as the work you put in to the game.

Google the name. If it's in a fantasy book that's reasonably well known it'll come up in the first page of results.

Because from your post it seems that you may or may not be intentionally implying that the name I used is from a published piece of work when as far as I know it is a fairly original fictional name.

It's the name (nickname?) of the lead character on a god-awful television show that inexplicably is one of the highest-rated shows on cable. (Picking "Evilkins" as a last name doesn't exactly help your case that it was accidental.) Multiple Immortals immediately made the connection when the name was pointed out, FWIW.

I was just unaware that incredibly silly names were illegal given the number of silly names that have been used by other players in the past.

You're correct that players attempt to slip names past us from time to time, and we have always had players that insist they were unaware of the alternative meaning. We aren't mind readers, and we make decisions based on discretion all the time.

We have the rename command for borderline cases, but it's always been the case that if the staff member deems the name to be intentionally bad, we're not obligated to offer it. Otherwise, certain players will pick (and have picked) intentionally illegal names and try to slip by.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

You just admitted that "multiple immortals" watch Jersey Shore.

Woe is the Immortal Staff.

I will love Jersey Shore for being the one show that says it's alright to take steriods.

Man Isildur, both you and TMNS just outed yourselves as watching Jersey Shore too!

It's a trap.

Aarn

And so does Valg. He can't deny it anymore!

>You just admitted that "multiple immortals" watch Jersey
>Shore.

Nah, not necessarily. You can pick up that much just listening to the radio on the way into work in the morning. At least, I did.

Not that I'm above the lure of trashy TV...

It's the name (nickname?) of the lead character on a god-awful
television show that inexplicably is one of the highest-rated
shows on cable. (Picking "Evilkins" as a last name doesn't
exactly help your case that it was accidental.) Multiple
Immortals immediately made the connection when the name was
pointed out, FWIW.

Ah, that would explain it then. I thought you were referring to a book because I don't watch television. Didn't even know what show you were talking about until I read down to Isildur's post about it being Jersey Shore. I'm either working, training at the gym, sleeping, out with friends or doing errands, or doing something else on the computer. That and I didn't actually come up with the name it was suggested to me by another player. Last time I take name suggestions from Scrimbul.

Btw, what is the deal with Evilkins not helping my case? This part is to anyone who knows since I can't be bothered to look it up in google or wikipedia or whatever.

You're correct that players attempt to slip names past us from
time to time, and we have always had players that insist they
were unaware of the alternative meaning. We aren't mind
readers, and we make decisions based on discretion all the
time.

Okay, that makes sense. It's just that I was confused when I honestly didn't know anything about the reference and I log in to RotD. May I propose that in the future if it is that a player and admin don't exactly match up times that the staff issue a note to the character in question stating the exact reason they end up there? That way they at least know what's going on in the rare occasions they're like me and oblivious to the latest fad when it comes to American pop culture?

Again thanks for the prompt and courteous responses, I really appreciate it despite you probably being busy helping improve the game. I guess I would've caught the reference had I just did a Google search with "Snooky" rather than "Snooky Evilkins". And with that I'm really done posting in this thread now.

These people having no sense of humor and taking the game too seriously for it to be fun anymore has been a complaint of mine for a couple years now. Plus, I don't watch television so while the name, and last name, was in bad taste, unless you cared what prime time late night drivel someone's wife is rotting their mind with, it wasn't illegal. The imms have intentionally let worse names go both played by imms and not for the simple reason that a given character ranked out of the 20's and it might hurt their feelings.



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-Vynmylak

>The imms have
>intentionally let worse names go both played by imms and not
>for the simple reason that a given character ranked out of the
>20's and it might hurt their feelings.

No offense, but I think you're talking out your ass again.

I think he's exaggerating. But there have been a rash of really lousy names of the past few months. Remember clawsten (offense shifter) and tankmonious (defense shifter)? Yeah. That's pretty awful. I'd never even heard of Jersey Shore before this thread, so Snooky to me is no worse than those, melemlelmelmelm or a half dozen other names taken from novels and tv shows that the staff chose to ignore. In the past I've even prayed about it, and nothing happens because apparently the staff watches more Jersey Shore than they read fantasy novels.

Basically there's names that are against the letter of the rules, and then there are names that completely gag themselves on a giant phallus of terribleness. I guess the theory is that the latter don't matter, which would be fine if examples of the former weren't also ignored.

nt

dumb ass.

Also, we should get rid of anon posting outside the battlefield.

It didn't come up in the Google hits I bothered to look up. 1950's jazz harp player Snooky Pryor was the most obvious connection, according to Google, with other people named Snooky coming next.

After that, I looked up Isildur's TV show from the Wikipedia (second try worked, liked from the geographical location) and saw that the person's nickname there was "Snooki", which is a different spelling even. I just feel that this is a tad bit too obscure to bust. Maybe it was the Evilkins that did it for you.

I've never even seen the show and I know the characters' names. They're all over late night and daytime talk and comedy shows.

>As an aside to Enlith: I don't know if you were having a bad
>day when you made your post or perhaps I read into it
>incorrectly; but telling someone who doesn't know why they
>were called to boss' office and just asking a simple question
>as to why, "Or you can just quit your job. You were called in
>for a reason," seems kind of harsh (terrible analogy I know
>but it was the only one I could think of). Maybe I am naive in
>thinking that it is only fair that a person be made aware of
>what they did wrong, but that's just me. Otherwise I have
>nothing personally against you or any other staff member and
>though it wasn't the most helpful of posts I would also like
>to thank you for taking the time to respond to my initial post
>as well as the work you put in to the game.


You'll forgive the perception here, but I was fairly certain that the issue should have been handled in private to some degree. Emailing the imps would have been much more favorable, in my eyes, than trying to get an answer over public forum.

You are in the Realm of the Dead for a reason.

This won't be resolved until you are online at the same time
as an Immortal who can deal with your issue.

G.

Or you can just delete. You're in there for a reason.

A cautionary tale?

help rules

follow those.

The lack of what is done says more than what is done, sometimes.

So cut them some slack dammit! Hell, our imms are ####ing awesome.

I think they have a lot on their plates and this is a VOLUNTEER THING for them. Three days is annoying to wait, but it is not that long. If you remember right, we just had a major downtime where things got very screwed up. COULD IT BE THAT THEY ARE SUPER BUSY AND NOT EVERYTHING IS WORKING RIGHT YET>>!>!>!> COULD IT????

Sorry...but seriously, get some patience, or get a life outside of CF or something.

Those help files don't write themselves, boy-o!

I mean, the mud went down and that guy didn't do a dang thing. What a worthless turd, I wish he'd quit 'fixing' code. He only makes it worse. He probably sits in Asgaard typing c id axe to wack off to his 600+ charges.

sdvbsdrvb

Where's Trogdor when you need someone burninated?

But they don't have time to make much of an impact on CF. What I was getting at was, perhaps they should get people on staff who do have the time and interest.

>But they don't have time to make much of an impact on CF.

Just because they haven't dealt with your personal issue doesn't mean they aren't making an impact. The game was recently saved from oblivion. Zulgh would be justified in taking 6 months off for good behavior.

>What I was getting at was, perhaps they should get people on
>staff who do have the time and interest.

Yeah okay, chump, let's get some people on staff who have time and interest. What the f are you even suggesting here? A recruiting campaign? Let's ignore how stupid it is to say the current staff has no time and interest, in general.

What have you done for CF lately, Mr. Semaphore?

Stop sucking the immortals ####s and grow one of your own so you don't have to act like your big by flaming people who aren't interested in groupthink on internet forums.

I should not have called you a jerk and stupid, that was not productive.

>Stop sucking the immortals ####s and grow one of your own so
>you don't have to act like your big by flaming people who
>aren't interested in groupthink on internet forums.

But this is also silly. I argue with them (usually Daevryn) all the time. There are lots of actual issues related to the game where I don't see eye to eye with the immortals.

That said, yeah I'm willing to recognize they're doing me (and everyone else) a favor by maintaining and improving this game. So while I'll appologize for being pointlessly insulting, I won't appologize for thinking that if you like CF you owe them a bit more respect than the crap you're shoveling here.

Nobody cares if you "have a feeling" that the imms don't care about CF.

Nobody.

Maybe if you had something like evidence or an understanding of the current situation, you might be partially qualified to make extremely ignorant posts.

But no. Go away, feelings-troll.

Become a heroimm and see how much work these people actually do. I was a heroimm for six months and I worked on the mud 40 hours a week, which is basically a full time job. And guess what? I have -nothing- to show for it. And part of it is because I suck, but the other part of it is that running a MUD is tons harder than you think.

From what I understand the MUD blew up recently and they are scrambling to fix it. That takes time. Sorry, it does. They aren't getting paid for this work, and the fact that some of these imms are willing to donate 20+ hours a week for the mud is impressive enough as is. Even a couple hours a week is more than what most people are willing to spend on a volunteer project.

And finding people who have time and interest? Every single one of this imms have proven that they do, at the very least, have interest. Most of them also donate far more time than you can imagine. I bet Nepenthe or Zulg or someone else is busting their ass off at this very second to make CF is an awesome game to play.