I heard horrible stories about orcs warbanners like you need to use people's gear (and destroy it process) to make a good warbanner.

Question to imms:
- is this by design and encourages "looting" by destroying victim's gear.
- it is an oversight left from ancient terrible times when full looting was common and expected each time you die.

Bognok gathers together the blood and broken remains into a loose construct.
Bognok rises from his morbid work, a bloody war banner in hand!


exa corpse
Withered, leathery flesh clings tightly to the corpse of Rengorm.
The corpse of Rengorm contains:
(Noteworthy) a set of polished iron legplates
(Noteworthy) a gleaming silver sword
( 2) an iron-studded collar
( 2) a spiked iron bracer
( 2) a pale white skull ring
red-gold dragon boots
red-gold dragon gauntlets
(Noteworthy) a red-gold dragon skull
( 2) (Noteworthy) a Frostbrand sword
( 2) a mattock of tundra evergreen
a metal canteen insulated in a wolves pelt
a side of deer venison



G.

Without any knowledge how it works is that the resulting corpse has a very short timer that makes it decay and thus destroying all eq? Might be something to fix.

An orc is just full looting and blaming war banner?

When you make a warbanner from a corpse with eq some pieces disapper (eq used for the warbanner).
From a log on a certain board it looked like weapons, bracers, leggings go away at warbanner creation.

My experience was also that warbanner made bits of gear disappear.

I never ascertained whether or not the disappearing gear helped the warbanner, but my interpretation of helpfiles was that it probably was doing so.

ALL gear isn't destroyed when you warbanner. But SOME of it is, per helpfile and real experience.

Gear does get used fashioning a war banner, and the strength of the war banner is based on that gear. It is by no means a full loot, I think it's 4-10 items, which may get revisited, but overall I'm fine with having a skill in the game that requires other people's gear. As with all the corpse-saving stuff I added to the game, there is still a skill or two that can completely destroy a corpse.

It's annoying when you have a bigass sack of preps get destroyed by a warbanner, instead of the water skin that's sitting right next to it.


Or did those mean ol Orcs lie to me and take the goodies for themselves?

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clan Tellum dat X took it er warbanner broke it.

Looting is not bad, it's good, and necessary for the game.

Having a skill that requires the victor to take something from the loser is wonderful and you should stop complaining.

I'm not complaining because I'm not on the receiving side (nor I plan to be). However, people complain to me. So it is more like: should I feel guilty about looting/full-looting someone or I can go ahead and ignore imms comments about me being "a full looting douche" because it's actually how they design things.

It seems out of whack with other recent changes, such as dragon's not exploding gear anymore.

Oh, and corpseguard. And the new tribunal skill that returns stuff.

Certain conjie pets that steal weapons and whatnot, too. Same principle, after all.


Personally, I don't see it as a big deal, if a few of these skills exist here and there.

Yeah. During my brief stint as a conjie I constantly had people bitching at me for their weapons being gone. Half the time they didn't realize the harmentia had done it. The other half knew the harmentia had done it, but blamed me for using a harmentia in the first place.

Actually, it's entirely consistent. You're talking about dragons, npcs, not destroying gear. That's one thing (and good, I agree).

This is about a pc, not an npc, and it's taking an item after the victim's already lost the pk. Entirely different.

This encourages good roleplay.

Which isn't the same thing.

It is to the dead guy. Taken or destroyed, either way, he doesn't have it.

The point is that it's the player doing it here, not a mob. And it makes perfect sense.

There's nothing about the idea of a warbanner that screams that it has to contain the (often quite generic) items the foe is wearing. Why as a dwarf am I more scared by seeing some adamantite bracers on a warbanner than if they weren't there? It's retarded.

A windsock made out of a dwarf skin would be quite fearsome!