This is a thread on dioxides board, and while it's an interesting discussion, I have been thinking about rolling an outlander, and I would like to know diffinitively if I have screwed myself.

You can't kill too many natural creatures or you get booted?
It has been suggested over there that it is actually hard coded
that you will get kicked after so many natural kills, and that one guy got booted for walking through ysigrath too many times and killing too many muckdwellers.

Just looking for an absolute answer.





and uh, are rabid gibberlings natural critters?

thanks
Big D

>This is a thread on dioxides board, and while it's an
>interesting discussion, I have been thinking about rolling an
>outlander, and I would like to know diffinitively if I have
>screwed myself.
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>You can't kill too many natural creatures or you get booted?

Natural creatures that are aggressive have chosen their own fate when they attacked. As an Outlander, you are considered a natural creature defending yourself. Now, if someone is running in Ysigrath just to fight muckdwellers, I will have a problem with it from an Outlander perspective. If muckdwellers are dying on your way to killing Sz'weh, that's acceptable.

>It has been suggested over there that it is actually hard
>coded
>that you will get kicked after so many natural kills, and that
>one guy got booted for walking through ysigrath too many times
>and killing too many muckdwellers.

I don't know about the coding aspect of it. It may be there, but, I have always acted accordingly when needed. I try really hard to let the leaders handle these things as much as possible.

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>Just looking for an absolute answer.

There isn't one. As an Outlander, you get some insight when you consider the mob you are fighting. General rule of thumb is, if you consider them and you see that they are quite at home within the wilds, they are a natural creature and should not be hunted for sport. That goes for any align. There are some rp dynamics that will allow an evil outlander to "use" natural creatures to help bring about Thar-Eris. Of course, their idea of the greater good is a bit warped.

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>and uh, are rabid gibberlings natural critters?

No, they are not.

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>Big D

Disease, bacteria, kudzu, yetis. There are parts of nature that have no other purpose than to destroy everything that it comes in contact with.

If an evil Outlander wants to be a "plague" and kill all the deer in the forest, fine. Just as long as they aren't building walls.

But I digress. Outlanders have too many holes in their beliefs anyway.

>Disease, bacteria, kudzu, yetis. There are parts of nature
>that have no other purpose than to destroy everything that it
>comes in contact with.

Those parts of nature don't join the Outlander cabal.

n/t

You say that like I haven't probably played more evil Outlanders than you. :)

Try looking at it this way: the Sierra Club tries to fight drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge, right? They respect and perhaps revere polar bears. Nonetheless, a polar bear is not likely to become a member of the Sierra Club soon, nor would Sierra Club leadership hesitate to disavow a member who was so 'inspired' by polar bears that he ran around the tundra eating fish all the time and mauling any other humans who got too close to him.

>You say that like I haven't probably played more evil
>Outlanders than you. :)
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>Try looking at it this way: the Sierra Club tries to fight
>drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge, right? They
>respect and perhaps revere polar bears. Nonetheless, a polar
>bear is not likely to become a member of the Sierra Club soon,
>nor would Sierra Club leadership hesitate to disavow a member
>who was so 'inspired' by polar bears that he ran around the
>tundra eating fish all the time and mauling any other humans
>who got too close to him.
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The Sierra Club is nothing like Outlanders. It is a highly-structured organization. If one Sierra Club member killed another Sierra Club member because he/she disagreed with the other's way of saving the ANWR, they wouldn't hesitate to disavow them either (or turn them in to the proper authorities).

Earth Liberation Front on the other hand, which is much more Outlander-ish, might encourage this polar bear-like behavior because 1/4 of them are bat#### crazy, 1/4 of them are drugged-out losers, and 1/2 of them are poseurs. P.S. I heard the drugged-out losers will full-loot/full-sac your SUV because they have small penises/swollen labial tissue.

That was a pretty terrible example for someone who has "probably played more evil Outlanders" than the "next guy".

Don't they make you kids learn these things for your SATs anymore? :P

nt

No. There is a time and a place to hunt other things. The priority are the defilers. You aren't supposed to hunt all the deer in the forest until there are no defilers, cities, etc.

But I'll pass on the way Amaranthe explained to me some time ago:

Killing a wolf for food, or the snow leopard for its skin, etc.: Okay.

Killing stuff for sport (XP) or no nature/survivalish reason: Not okay.

If you're an Outlander (or, if I don't misremember, a wood elf), consider will tell you what qualifies. If neither, ask someone who is.