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Topic subjectSuggestion re: Dex Change
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22033, Suggestion re: Dex Change
Posted by JMCC on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
So I have noticed that people with high dex tend to go dagger. Besides Igbah, who was outfitted with awesome eq, most people with low-mid dex don't seem to have that good of a chance of beating out the dagger dex-monger.

I suggest changing parry so that it compares how heavy your weapon is as opposed to the enemy. By no amount should an elf wielding a dagger be able to parry a fire giant swining heavy axes easily.

This way, although dex helps dodge, str + weapon weight would help parry.

Thoughts?
22035, Further:
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Depending on the circumstances of comparitive damage/hp/DR/etc., parrying less is potentially advantageous to a dagger warrior -- you need to dodge to concealed, and parry is checked before dodge. If you hypothetically reduce the dagger warrior's chance to parry to zero, he'll get hit more -- but he'll also deal more unblockable hits in return.
22036, RE: Further:
Posted by Xanthrailles on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Then how about having concealed come from parry rather than dodge.
22039, RE: Further:
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
That would

A) Power dagger down considerably, which I'm not convinced it needs and
B) Make it work much less intuitively -- for example, giants would probably be the best dagger specs
22041, RE: Further:
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>B) Make it work much less intuitively -- for example, giants
>would probably be the best dagger specs

Think that might be taking it a bit far, considering that I believe it is dexterity that let's you land a lot of the other skills. I could be wrong on this but highly doubt changing concealed to parry would cause an overrun of dagger specialists - they'd still get destroyed by most dexterity-based warriors.
22043, Parry is largely strength-based. (n/t)
Posted by Twist on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
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22044, I understand that...
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
...just stating that if concealed was parry-based, giants necessarily wouldn't be the best dagger specs. Maybe the best warriors for concealed, but not the entire spec.
22045, RE: Further:
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Hey, you're welcome to your opinion. It's not like I don't have a pretty good idea of how the other dagger skills work.

We'll probably never know for sure how it would play, because I don't see this change being made.
22034, RE: Suggestion re: Dex Change
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Daggers are already terrible weapons to parry with. Yes, even for the high dex elf dagger fighting the fire axe.