No complaining, I just hate the simple fact that giants, orcs, or people enlarged, and come up and just spam bash, over, and over and over and over. It's lame, and really doesn't make the game fun at all. It's just so simple to do, too.

Just a few ideas to throw off at you.

1. Giants load up on rafts, and such to add to their weight, because they bash better? How can anyone who loads up on weight be able to move very fast at all? How can a giant/orc who has almost their max weight carried be able to bash something that is quicker than they are? I was an arial with less than half my max weight, and he was a fire giant, and he just came in and bashed me down as if it were nothing. No skill, just bash!!!!!. No fun.

The more weight you carry, the less likely you are able to bash. If you carry light weight, and try to bash someone they should have every opportunity to dodge the bash. It is incredibly lame, and logs are lame when a giant comes up on you, or an orc, and all they do is bash you. Atleast give that person who's being no skilled, bashed, the change to dodge, or straight up block a bash.

2. Blocking bashes. Make it do a little bit of damage because the person who tried to bash you is bigger, or make it size related. But, you dont get the bash stun you normally would. You'd block the bash but still take a little bit of damage, because of the force of the hit.

3. Make bash like it is from ranks 1-25 for ranks 1-51.

4. Make it harder for a warrior to bash another one, because they also know the skill. Make it like parry is. The % you know bash is determined how well you dodge, or just jump out of the way of bash. To parry well you need to know opponents weapon to a high enough %, make bash the same way.

5. Change the amount of lag you get when you are bashed. Make it one round less than the one who is bashing you.

6. Make it so that if someone does a particular skill over, and over on you, you start to adapt to that one skill. I mean, if you get hit with something over, and over, you'd start thinking about when that bash was coming, and be ready for it the next time.

These are just some ideas to make the game a little more fun. There are giants out now who all they do is bash. They have swords, and all those skills, but they know, and so does everyone else, that they just need to keep spamming bash. It's lame, boring, and makes the game no fun.

What you think of me ideas?

Dude, if they're enlarged? Reduce so they can't hit you. If they are relying on bash to win, and it does beat you...(excluding the super crazy warriors/aps) You need to check your tactics and rethink how you fight them. I'm not afraid of bash unless it's a gang. If they are loaded up to max weight, their dodge is going to suck even MORE than it already does. You see them coming, reduce/enalrge depending on the situation. Be ready with a skill/spell/sup that might be able to reduce their strength/dex. Bash is nothing to worry about %95 of the time.

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Or some other empowerment class with early bash protection.

That way you can die to something other than bash.

While for powergaming reasons arial shaman is considered a poor combination, you likely won't understand those reasons considering your attitude toward bash so the permanent flight + protective shield will be far more beneficial to you. Of course you'll have to juggle the five tick or less timers on sanctuary and protective shield, but it's better than those mean old orcs and giants just bashing you to death right? You can just plague the #### out of them anyway since they won't be wearing saves gear... well, at least till hero where everyone and their mom stacks so much saves gear that only the dispel commune does anything to anyone.

There's more to it than that, but until you can see there are other things equally dangerous in this game, a level 35ish shaman is the only way you'll be satisfied.


Yes, I'm being partly sarcastic. Even the best players die on occasion to bashing retards, especially bards, assassins and thieves, but the fact of the matter is bash is more variable these days than it ever was before especially with 'evade' around. I know, because I've lost kills trying that exact tactic that I should have gotten just because the bash didn't lag long enough despite me being enlarged/weighted with rafts. (Goddamn Tremblay.)

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Play something that can outmelee them and laugh as they spam bash themsleves to death.

>What you think of me ideas?

They're trying to fix something that isn't broken.

Giant warriors aren't exactly dominating the game at the moment.