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Topic subjectLearning / immunities
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15907, Learning / immunities
Posted by Marcus_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
How about making skills go up much slower when fighting mobs that are immune to your melee attack or vice versa? As opposed to removing all skill improvements, I mean.

Mebbe:
Vuln mob: 150% improvement rate
Standard: 100%
Resistant: 67%
Immune: 25%
15909, RE: Learning / immunities
Posted by Rodriguez on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I think its to prevent people from punching the same mob over and over for hours just to spam skills.
15910, Yep.
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It eliminates all manner of stupid practice abuses... which I gather you're trying to get back. :P
15917, Nope..
Posted by Marcus_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Even while botting, praccing at 25% of max speed isn't worth it.. Don't make stupid assumptions, you're better than that :P

Edit: To clarify. There are alot of times you have a non-spampractice reason to fight a mob that you are immnune to or vice versa. And hell, if somebody wants to learn at 25% efficiency, that's their problem. Fighting a mob that's immune to your attacks isn't a good move anyways, since with the level affects on praccing, the problem isn't the mob dying, but you. And invokers aren't affected by level differences anyways from what I recall. That leaves paladins and storm giants.

What I wanted was to get rid of an annoying message. And to reward the should-be smart thing which is fighting mobs that are vuln to you. Ok?
15918, RE: Nope..
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Not worth it? For you, sure, I'll believe that... but you would not believe some of the seemingly stupid or crazy botting setups I've seen on CF over the years. :P
15919, i updated my previous reply but you were too fast :p nt
Posted by Marcus_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
15928, RE: Nope..
Posted by Valkenar on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Even while botting, praccing at 25% of max speed isn't worth
>it.. Don't make stupid assumptions, you're better than that
>:P

You underestimate how much someone like me hates practicing. I absolutely will not do it, even though it's obviously worth perfecting your skills (Cabdru is evidence enough for that). I would bot at 1% effectiveness if it meant I could go do other things with my life in the mean time. I'd have no problem not really playing my character for a coupe weeks if I could come back to perfected skills. I'd rather bot for 200 hours than spend 2 hours manually. That's how much I hate skill practice. It may take 100 times as long to perfect the skills, but at least I haven't wasted any of my actual time (well, maybe a tiny bit starting the bot and poking it once in a while).

Also, writing bots is fun to me. I think writing and refining a succesful bot is quite enjoyable. I used to do a lot of that on BBSs as a kid. Ah, the joys of botting with Telemate.

On CF I don't bot at all because it's against the rules. So I limit myself to classes that are less impacted by having skills I can't easily perfect while ranking stay at 71%.