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14430, Gank-o-meter: How does it work?
Posted by Jagaub on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I've always been skeptical of the gank-o-meter, since I think that a gang is often a very subjective thing. Then when an imm goes and uses it as ammo in an argument against a character, it makes me wonder about certain scenarios. If you all will please indulge me by answering how the gank-o-meter counts in the following scenarios, I'd appreciate it.

1a. 3 characters are in the same range of an enemy and are grouped together but in different rooms. One of those characters kills the enemy. Does this count as a 1 person kill?

1b. If no, then same scenario as above except that only 1 character is in the enemy's range. Does this count as a 1 person kill?

2a. A warrior and healer, both in range of an enemy kill him, but the healer was never in combat and only healed the warrior. Is this a 2v1 according to the gank-o-meter or a 1v1?

2b. Same question as above, except the healer is out of range.

3. A lone bard sleeps a group of 3 then kills each individually. Is this a 1v3 according to the gank-o-meter, or 3 separate 1v1s? Or is it a 1v3 for the first kill, 1v2 for the second kill and 1v1 for the third?

4. A bard in a group of 3 sleeps another group of 3, then his group kills each individually. Is this a 3v1 3 times?

5. A necro in a group of 2 summons someone from a group of 3 and kills them. Is this a 2v1?

6. The red team and blue team both have 3 members in their groups, all in range of each other. The red team kills each member in the blue team. How is each kill counted? Is it 3v3 for the first, 3v2 for the second and 3v1 for the last? Or is it 3v3 for all three?

7. Generally speaking, do you have to strike the other character to be counted in the gank?

8. Do you have to be grouped with the ally in order for it to count as a gank?

9. Tom is slept by Bob. Jim, Tom's friend, wakes Tom by attacking him and flees. Bob then proceeds to kill Tom. Is this a 2v1 for Bob?

I know it's a lot of questions, but as a programmer I realize how difficult it can be to account ganks correctly. I'm of the mind that the gank-o-meter is heavily skewed against certain classes and is inaccurate for the rest.
14432, RE: Gank-o-meter: How does it work?
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>I've always been skeptical of the gank-o-meter, since I think
>that a gang is often a very subjective thing. Then when an imm
>goes and uses it as ammo in an argument against a character,
>it makes me wonder about certain scenarios. If you all will
>please indulge me by answering how the gank-o-meter counts in
>the following scenarios, I'd appreciate it.

It's not a perfect metric, and I'll be the first to admit that. Basically, it counts how many characters were involved in a character's death. It does skew higher for cabal characters and anyone who often fights group vs. group. It doesn't account for out of range support characters well.

It's good for policing 'honor' characters, and it's a good way to answer someone who says they never had any allies and always fought alone. Beyond that, it's an inexact science.

Zulg is better for answering these questions than I am, but hey.

>1a. 3 characters are in the same range of an enemy and are
>grouped together but in different rooms. One of those
>characters kills the enemy. Does this count as a 1 person
>kill?

In most cases, but not all, yes.

>1b. If no, then same scenario as above except that only 1
>character is in the enemy's range. Does this count as a 1
>person kill?

There, definitely.

>2a. A warrior and healer, both in range of an enemy kill him,
>but the healer was never in combat and only healed the
>warrior. Is this a 2v1 according to the gank-o-meter or a
>1v1?

Could potentially be either, I think.

>2b. Same question as above, except the healer is out of
>range.
>
>3. A lone bard sleeps a group of 3 then kills each
>individually. Is this a 1v3 according to the gank-o-meter, or
>3 separate 1v1s? Or is it a 1v3 for the first kill, 1v2 for
>the second kill and 1v1 for the third?

Three one on one kills. The Gank-o-meter doesn't give you extra credit for being able to smoke multiple opponents at once.

>4. A bard in a group of 3 sleeps another group of 3, then his
>group kills each individually. Is this a 3v1 3 times?

Sure is!

>5. A necro in a group of 2 summons someone from a group of 3
>and kills them. Is this a 2v1?

Yup!

>6. The red team and blue team both have 3 members in their
>groups, all in range of each other. The red team kills each
>member in the blue team. How is each kill counted? Is it 3v3
>for the first, 3v2 for the second and 3v1 for the last? Or is
>it 3v3 for all three?

3v1s... as previously stated, this is someplace it currently breaks down.

>7. Generally speaking, do you have to strike the other
>character to be counted in the gank?

Generally, or at least be damaging/affecting them in some way.

>8. Do you have to be grouped with the ally in order for it to
>count as a gank?

Nope.

>9. Tom is slept by Bob. Jim, Tom's friend, wakes Tom by
>attacking him and flees. Bob then proceeds to kill Tom. Is
>this a 2v1 for Bob?

Probably not, but potentially yes.

>I know it's a lot of questions, but as a programmer I realize
>how difficult it can be to account ganks correctly. I'm of the
>mind that the gank-o-meter is heavily skewed against certain
>classes and is inaccurate for the rest.

Yup. It's not good for everything.