Go back to previous topic
Forum Name Gameplay
Topic subjectOK, so the thread about spam got me thinking
Topic URLhttps://forums.carrionfields.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=12601
12601, OK, so the thread about spam got me thinking
Posted by Drag0nSt0rm on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
And it brought me to a different form of Mechanical abuse.
So and so has Summoned you!
So and so
His big fire giant friend
And his big orc friend
Orcs mob
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
***Hit return to continue***
You yell
Orcs bash
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
***Hit return***
MANGLES
MANGLES
MANGLES
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
MANGLES
DEAD

I haven't had this particular stunt pulled on me recently but I can't say I've seen any posts about it getting fixed.
12605, My take
Posted by Aarn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Doing this deliberately would be clearly against the rules, specifically exploiting in-game mechanics to get an advantage. If someone does it, pray and we'll check it out. If you're considering doing it, don't!

Aarn?
12631, So the only way this will be fixed, is if someone abuses it?
Posted by Drag0nSt0rm on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Thats a weak answer, no offense Aarn. I may never abuse it, but I think you guys should atleast try and come up with a way to fix it, as its pretty devious and CLEARLY abuse.
And I know for certain someone will do it again.

Edit
Oh and I know quite well you guys would rather spend time on other projects, I just don't see any point if I'm going to die to some random abuse of code while exploring some neato area you guys just slapped in
12633, RE: So the only way this will be fixed, is if someone abuses it?
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Your suggestion will be given the consideration it deserves.*


*(TM) Qaledus, 2006.
12637, Since we're quoting people...
Posted by Straklaw on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
The rabid squirrel comment, I believe I've been hearing as attributed to Innis in regards to Peryll, rather than Eshval. Figured we can't be having the mysterious and wise Nepenthe be wrong :)
12634, Risk/reward calculation:
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Reward- Small increase in the chance of a nightgaunt working, assuming it locates and returns the victim.

Risk- Ending up in the Realm of the Dead because a staff member noticed you using an OOC trick to try to achieve an IC effect. Level 40 conjurers take some time to replace.

I haven't looked at the technical end of the problem. If there's a straightforward fix, we'll do it. If there isn't, or the fix would break 10 other things (example: Unlimited scroll may cause your link to break when you view the room), we can deal with the offenders directly instead.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com
12639, Like with get all
Posted by Marcus_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
You could just send an 'There are more stuff buried beneath the piles of stuff' echo if there are more than 70 different objects lying on the ground...

On a side note:

You might wanna do the same with the empty command. I was thinking how I would like to abuse that and it popped into my mind.

It might be better just attacking the core of the problem and making your commands go through even if there's a present. So a flee with that would both give you the rest of the spam and make you flee.
12640, Well, the only problem I forsee with that is it will still lag you
Posted by Drag0nSt0rm on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Especially if your long distance, or on a dial up
12643, RE: Risk/reward calculation:
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Could have a togglable status variable, sort of like corpseguard, autoloot, etc. Call it "groupitems" or something similar. If it's de-activated and there are more than N items on the ground in a room, everything over N gets lumped into a generic "numerous other items" echo. Have N be reasonably small (e.g. 10). If someone wants to view everything in the room, they just toggle "groupitems" off.

Though, this wouldn't address Marcus's idea re: empty.
12650, This is very good. nt.
Posted by Splntrd on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
.
12604, RE: OK, so the thread about spam got me thinking
Posted by sublunary on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
In game, type "scroll 100"

If there's more crap than that in the room... I'm really very sorry. *hug*
12606, RE: OK, so the thread about spam got me thinking
Posted by Eskelian on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM

I have seen rooms where there was more armor than that, used in nightgaunting.

I'll send up a pray, but, really, its one of the last of these stupid cheesy methods to kill so it'd be cool if there was a way to make that just not happen.
12609, RE: OK, so the thread about spam got me thinking
Posted by Haggler on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
Gear
You see a SECOND pile of gear here.
You see a THIRD pile of gear here.

Not horrificly hard to have the code adjust that by character's scroll. I just don't think that it's a good idea.
12642, RE: OK, so the thread about spam got me thinking
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Seems like it has more uses than just nightgaunts. Could use it to snag people you've just summoned into a room, stop someone spamming down a road, etc.