I was more driving at that, figuring out the puzzles is one thing.

Not walking into a situation where your whole group dies is another. Knowing what you should be looking for is one thing. Knowing where it is/how to kill the guy with it/etc is another.

That was sorta what I was driving at, especially given the time constraints people have, I can't imagine how anyone would explore hell from scratch these days. I mean, killing some things alone can take you a long time, not to mention factoring in the deaths and healing and etc.

Great area. I just feel like I would have to get a dedicated permagroup together to do it "the right way".

You get what I'm driving at though. I'll probably take your advice and just limit my aspirations to thoroughly exploring the first few circles.