Sorry, most of them won't have prompts!

***It is June 2006 and I log on to this with my first transmuter since they stopped being paired with shapeshifter.*** *21 Human Tra* (PK) Linolaques the Student of Disruption <20 Duerg War> (PK) Sardon the Warrior <20 Duerg War> (PK) Gazthmar the Warrior <22 Svirf Shf> (PK) Thlhorahk the Student of Speed <19 Dwarf Sha> (PK) Jacop the Expositor <21 Fire War> (PK) Krahg the Strategist Players found: 6 People near you: (PK) Linolaques The Laboratory (PK) Sardon The Warriors' Bar Sajaris Park Road (PK) a black bear The Hall of Forms an arctic fox The Hall of Forms Ryst Inside the West Gate ***I see Sardon leave out the west gate and look around until I find him. Thank god for invis!*** You are affected by: Spell: 'metabolic quickening' modifies dexterity by 2 for 10 hours. Spell: 'toughened skin' modifies armor class by -20 for 5 hours. Spell: 'relaxation' modifies moves by 100 for 4 hours. Spell: 'relaxation' modifies movement regeneration by 25 for 4 hours. Spell: 'armor' modifies armor class by -20 for -1 hours. Spell: 'giant strength' modifies strength by 2 for 0 hours. Spell: 'fly' for 2 hours. Spell: 'ocular enhancement' for 4 hours. Spell: 'ocular enhancement' for 4 hours. Spell: 'ocular enhancement' for 4 hours. Spell: 'invis' for 11 hours. People near you: (PK) Linolaques The Feanwyyn Weald (PK) Sardon A Strange Bridge Spanning a Narrow Valley Short descriptions activated. The Feanwyyn Weald People near you: (PK) Linolaques The Feanwyyn Weald A Bend in the Forest Road A lean, brown rabbit sits on his haunches, nibbling on something. A small fox runs swiftly along, its brown fur blending into its surroundings. People near you: (PK) Linolaques A Bend in the Forest Road A Strange Bridge Spanning a Narrow Valley The Western Crossroads A small set of lockpicks is here, poking out of a small pouch. A sheet of paper filled with names rests here in the dust. A long wooden pike casts a shadow in the sunlight. A weather-beaten stone marker rests firmly in the center of the crossing. A stern man in forest garb marches smartly about in a perfect square. A young man in forest garb leans on his pike here, a dreamy smile on his freckled face. People near you: (PK) Linolaques The Western Crossroads Zantaris A Bend in the Forest Road The Forest Road A large stone outcropping lies uncovered Sardon is here. People near you: (PK) Linolaques The Forest Road (PK) Sardon The Forest Road Sardon yells 'Die, Linolaques, you sorcerous dog!' You magically slow Sardon's metabolism. You parry Sardon's stab. You fade into existence. Your stinging lash decimates Sardon! Your stinging lash misses Sardon. Sardon's stab mauls you. Sardon has a few scratches. Your stinging lash decimates Sardon! Your stinging lash mauls Sardon. You parry Sardon's stab. Sardon's stab wounds you. Sardon has some small but disgusting cuts. Sardon sends you sprawling with a powerful bash! Sardon's bash scratches you. Sardon has some small but disgusting cuts. Your stinging lash mauls Sardon. Your stinging lash misses Sardon. Sardon's stab devastates you! Sardon has some small but disgusting cuts. Your stinging lash mauls Sardon. Your stinging lash decimates Sardon! Sardon's stab decimates you! You parry Sardon's stab. Sardon is covered with bleeding wounds. The Western Crossroads A small set of lockpicks is here, poking out of a small pouch. A sheet of paper filled with names rests here in the dust. A long wooden pike casts a shadow in the sunlight. A weather-beaten stone marker rests firmly in the center of the crossing. A stern man in forest garb marches smartly about in a perfect square. A young man in forest garb leans on his pike here, a dreamy smile on his freckled face. You flee from combat! You lost your concentration. ***Sorry for lack of prompts, my client doesn't save them. That was a failed "c invis"*** You fade out of existence. On whom? ***I think this was me trying to corporeal softening him*** Sardon has arrived. Sardon suddenly springs towards you, but falls when you move out of his path. Sardon's bash misses you. You yell 'Help! Sardon is bashing me!' Sardon is covered with bleeding wounds. You fade into existence. Your stinging lash devastates Sardon! Your stinging lash mauls Sardon. You parry Sardon's stab. Sardon is covered with bleeding wounds. You are hungry. Your vision blurs for a moment, and returns to normal. Sardon is covered with bleeding wounds. You hold a hand carved from marble aloft, unlocking its power. A ring of violet light erupts from nothingness to burn Sardon! Your searing ring MASSACRES Sardon! Sardon is gushing blood. Sardon dodges your stinging lash. Your stinging lash mauls Sardon. Sardon's stab decimates you! Sardon is gushing blood. You hold a hand carved from marble aloft, unlocking its power. A ring of violet light erupts from nothingness to burn Sardon! Your searing ring MUTILATES Sardon! Your stinging lash wounds Sardon. Your stinging lash mauls Sardon. Sardon's stab decimates you! Sardon is writhing in agony. Sardon suddenly springs forward and sends you sprawling with a solid body blow! Sardon's bash grazes you. Sardon is writhing in agony. Your stinging lash misses Sardon. Your stinging lash decimates Sardon! You parry Sardon's stab. Sardon is convulsing on the ground. Your stinging lash decimates Sardon! Your stinging lash decimates Sardon! You swat Sardon's stab away from you. Sardon is convulsing on the ground. Sardon gets a wild look in his eyes. Sardon is convulsing on the ground. Your stinging lash decimates Sardon! Sardon parries your stinging lash. You parry Sardon's stab. Sardon is convulsing on the ground. You hold a hand carved from marble aloft, unlocking its power. A ring of violet light erupts from nothingness to burn Sardon! Your searing ring MANGLES Sardon! Sardon is DEAD!! Sardon's severed head plops on the ground. You hold a hand carved from marble aloft, but fail to direct it at anyone in time. You fade out of existence. You are hungry. Your skin loses its weathered, tougher feel. The burnt corpse of Sardon contains: a wide bronze belt a wyvern scale shirt steel reinforced elf-skin leggings a storm giant skull a pair of gray leather boots steel reinforced elf-skin armguards a golden ring set with a dragonseye (Glowing) an oval sapphire pendant with a silver chain a pale white skull ring ( 2) a charred leather bracer a large sack a sandy-brown desert cloak a pair of black steel gauntlets a nicked dagger an iron dagger ( 4) a well-forged mithril short sword a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt a small dried yellow flower a plain wand a scroll of identify a brass-trimmed crimson cloak 104 silver coins 5 copper coins You get a golden ring set with a dragonseye from the burnt corpse of Sardon. You get a pale white skull ring from the burnt corpse of Sardon. You get 104 silver coins from the burnt corpse of Sardon. You get 5 copper coins from the burnt corpse of Sardon. You drop a pale white skull ring. You get an oval sapphire pendant with a silver chain from the burnt corpse of Sardon. You are using: <worn on finger> a moonstone ring <worn on finger> a golden ring set with a dragonseye <worn around neck> a sandy-brown desert cloak <worn around neck> a sandy-brown desert cloak <worn on body> some white robes with gold trim <worn on head> a circlet set with moonstones <worn on face> a pair of black reading glasses <worn on legs> some leggings from the snow worm <worn on feet> a pair of fine black leather boots <worn on hands> a pair of black steel gauntlets <worn on arms> a pair of armguards from the snow worm <worn about body> a robe <worn about waist> a belt of hardened raindrops <worn around wrist> a bracer of gray leather <worn around wrist> a bracer of gray leather <wielded> a demon whip <held> a hand carved from marble

Reading old transmuters logs and current ones I got a strong suspicions, their melee abilities have been nerfed in last few years. Is this true?

No

Why is a level 20 duergar warrior doing wounds in combat? Not for nothing, be he should really be doing caps damage, which I'm sure makes this fight look a lot different.

Sure, but it's not like the trans is using all the tools available to him that are useful for a fight like this either.

I feel like you're reading this log and saying: "I could have played that warrior better, so therefore this log doesn't show anything about how a trans can beat a warrior."

I don't know. Looking at this log I got the feeling the warrior was on the lower end of the equipment curve and the transmuter was on the higher end, and that these played as big a factor (or bigger) than anything else in the fight. That marble hand was his primary source of damage. That's not a transmuter spell.


Hutto, the Sleepy Nitpicker


'Sorry, I'm not 72323slhlst. Or however you say Elite'
-Vynmylak

>That
>marble hand was his primary source of damage. That's not a
>transmuter spell.

I knew that was going to come up, too.

In practice, any lowbie mage who really wants a chunk of marble can come up with one, just as any warrior who really wants a way to see invis can come up with one. I consider these things part of the landscape of PK at those levels, not something that can be separated from it.

That being said, in modern CF I don't think this fight would look dramatically different with Mental Jolt in its place.

Had like 7 before I gave up.

Any thing happen if you get all of them (a simple yes or no answer will suffice)?

Nope; essentially, without a quest running / immortal intervention you can never find all the pieces of the thing. I think you end up missing a torso or something.

There are still some indirect advantages to snarfing a lot of them up, but I don't think those advantages merit the weight.

Gear matters. Just like learning what to do when in pk, people have to learn where to go to get what too. It's a part of the learning curve.

"That being said, in modern CF I don't think this fight would look dramatically different with Mental Jolt in its place."

You're probably right.


Hutto, the Sleepy Nitpicker


'Sorry, I'm not 72323slhlst. Or however you say Elite'
-Vynmylak

I'm reading this log and saying: "Of course a mage can win this fight, the warrior is hitting for ####. Any melee character doing decent damage would have won too."

It's more a matter of, I believe you can pk at low ranks with mages, but I also believe that you have to choose your fights a lot more carefully and you just aren't going to stand up against that vet played warrior.

Tac

>It's more a matter of, I believe you can pk at low ranks with
>mages, but I also believe that you have to choose your fights
>a lot more carefully

My experience is that this is true.

> and you just aren't going to stand up
>against that vet played warrior.

My experience is that this is not true in practice, but to be fair that's in part because the vet played warrior doesn't tend to take the low-mid level mage seriously enough until it's too late, because most of the people playing them are just trying to power through those levels and are easy meat.