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3809, Edges
Posted by Clueless Newbie on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Just some question, there is a limit of edges that you can choose from the list that the guildmaster tells you, or you can choose them all?

if there is a limit how many you can choose?

and how do you get more edges to your list, by an immortal or by getting better at your skills/spells?

3813, RE: Edges
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Just some question, there is a limit of edges that you can
>choose from the list that the guildmaster tells you, or you
>can choose them all?
>if there is a limit how many you can choose?
>

There isn't a maximum number of edges you can have, exactly. Probably the best way to think of it is that your character accumulates "edge credit" or "edge points" that is then spent to pick edges.

>and how do you get more edges to your list, by an immortal or
>by getting better at your skills/spells?

There's basically two limitations on whether or not you'll have a particular edge on your pickable list.

1) Do you have enough "points" to "buy" it as mentioned above, and

2) Each edge has its own individual requirements, which can be things like: race, class, alignment, ethos, other edges, not having other edges (i.e., some edges are mutually exclusive), your character level, passing a threshold in a stat like STR/DEX/CON/INT/WIS/CHR, having a particular percentage in a skill/spell/etc., or more likely a combination of these. If you want to know what you need for a particular edge, discuss prereq can help you here.
3812, RE: Edges
Posted by Rayihn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Here's the help file, which I think can get confusing because help edge actually takes you to one of the sphere lists for some reason:
Level(0) EDGE EDGES
Edges are specialization options open to all characters. They are generally
much lower in potence and importance than other class specialization choices,
such as a ranger's terrain, a warrior's specialization, and so on. Edges
grant a character advantages while using certain skills/spells/supplications
or under certain circumstances, but do not add new skills to a character's
repertoire.

A character may qualify to select a specific edge based on a number of
factors, including but not limited to their class, race, alignment, ethos,
proficiency level in a given ability, and permanent attributes such as
strength or intelligence.

Characters earn the right to choose additional edges through excelling in any
of several areas of play, including RP, PK, exploration, commerce, quest
participation, cabal activities, and so on. Quality characters of very
different types will earn the right to pick a good number of edges; a
character who excells in many areas of play (for example, a skilled
playerkiller also recognized for their exemplary roleplay) will have the most
opportunities to choose edges.

To see which edges you may currently choose, DISCUSS with your guildmaster.
To choose an edge for which you qualify, "discuss
guildmastername 'edgename'".

For edges that have the ' symbol contained in the name (e.g., Kindred's
Touch), enclose the full name of the edge in double quotes when you discuss it.

The EDGES command will display the edges you already have.

See HELP EDGE LIST to see additional helpfiles with lists of edges. These are
also constantly being added and may be a little slower than the initial
release of a set of class edges. Thank you for your patience.





So all that said - you accrue edge points exploring, using commerce, and observing. Imm xp plays a big role too, so writing a role is very helpful. Your guild master will tell you all the edges you are currently eligible to take with the points you have, but once you use the points, that will change.
3811, Edge Points
Posted by laxman on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
To get edges you need to spend edge points (no you can't see how many you have or how much each edge costs) and meet other minimum criteria for each edge.

Theoretically speaking if you had enough edge points you could select all the edges you can meet the other minimum requirements for.

You get edge points for commerce xp, imm xp, explore xp, and pkilling. There are diminishing returns for each "silo" of collecting edge points.

For example, going from 0-5,000 explore XP might net you 50 edge points but going from 5,000 - 10,000 might get you only 30 edge points.

Your discuss list only shows what edges you can currently pick so to expand the list you either need to get more edge points or improve skills/spells/stats to become eligible for more options. You will also notice after you select an edge that the list gets smaller. That is because you spent edge points when you selected your last edge.
3810, RE: Edges
Posted by lasentia on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
1. There is no limit to edges you can choose. Sometimes edges are mutually exclusive though. If you look at a helpfile, it will usually indicate such. I.e. you can't take more than one edge to resist a specific bard repertoire. Edges all have a cost in edge points, if you have the points you can take the edge. If an edge is not listed, you either do not meet it's requirements or do not have the points to acquire it.

2. The only limit is based on the amount of edge points you have to spend. Edges have different costs and some are more expensive than others, but you will never see the actual Edge points you have or how much an edge costs. However, edges are sorted by cost with the stuff at the bottom being the cheaper ones. (Cheaper does not mean bad- seasoned traveller is a great edge and is very inexpensive to take)

3. Edges come to your list when you have enough edge points to take them, provided you meet the requirements to take the edge. You can do a discuss prerequisite to see the requirements to take an edge. Most edges have requirements based on a skill having reached a certain %, character level, A stat being high enough. HOwever, a stat does not have to be natural, i.e. if a stat requires 20 con and you are down to 15, you can wear + con gear to take the edge. If you will never be able to take an edge, a guildmaster will usually say such.

Certain edges are also Imm only, so only an immortal can give them to you.

Edge points are accrued in lots of ways.
From Imm XP.
From PKs.
From certain pinnacle levels.
From observation - This and exploration have upper limits after which you'll no longer gain edge points for getting these.
From exploration (You see when you discuss exploits- score exp will tell you your totals)
I believe you may get the from aging as well.

Hope this was somewhat helpful to you.