You're 5x more likely to be murdered.

Than lung cancer from secondhand smoke, sure. The excess deaths from heart disease raise the total to about 25,000 per year, which is more than homicide. In other words, secondhand smoke is more likely to kill me than homicide. That strikes me as vaguely important.

Additionally, you'll note the type of people that "frequently expose themselves to second hand smoke in bars" aren't the types of people that would shock me if they had a heart attack.

You're right, which is why journals like JAMA require you to control for existing risk factors like obesity or alcoholism before they let you claim a causative link. Medical doctors are pretty smart people.

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