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53851, A log of striking at its worst - A gameplay issue.
Posted by Nanorab on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
*** Nuekar and I had both died previously and had no been fighting each other.

*** He comes back much later. If he remembers what he 'learned' or not, I don't know.


<982/982 424/603 895 27650tnl(wilderness)(10 AM)(outdoor)> str nuek
Your attack is halted by Nuekar at the tip of a black
bardiche.
Nuekar's defilement MASSACRES you!
Nuekar yells 'Help! Nanorab just attacked me!'
Nuekar is in perfect health.

<903/982 424/603 895 27650tnl(wilderness)(10 AM)(outdoor)>
You trample around loudly again.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
You dodge Nuekar's defilement.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

<903/982 424/603 895 27650tnl(wilderness)(10 AM)(outdoor)> kot
You grab hold of Nuekar's wrist and twist it violently!
With a sickening crunch, you apply kotegaeshi to Nuekar's wrist!
With his broken wrist, Nuekar can no longer hold onto a black bardiche.
Your kotegaeshi MASSACRES Nuekar!
Nuekar makes a furious drive but falls back.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

*** Crunch. No offhand.

<903/982 424/603 895 27650tnl(wilderness)(10 AM)(outdoor)>
Your eyes see less clearly the auras of balance.
You feel less aware of your surroundings.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<915/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar dodges your poisonous bite.
Nuekar stops your poisonous bite with a solid blow.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar's punch EVISCERATES you!
Your shield blocks Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar dodges your poisonous bite.
Your poisonous bite maims Nuekar!
Your shield blocks Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>kan
You painfully hyperextend Nuekar's elbow!
Nuekar screams in pain as you apply kansetsuwaza to his elbow!
Your kansetsuwaza MANGLES Nuekar!
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

*** He screams. I'm now fighting a slowed opponent with no offhand

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar barely turns your poisonous bite aside.
Your shield blocks Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
Your shield blocks Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Gahlial has arrived.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> frow
Nuekar dodges your poisonous bite.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> frown

Nuekar tries to land a stunning blow on you but misses.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Gahlial looks at you.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> What's bothering you?
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Your shield blocks Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<870/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> rem shield

Your poisonous bite maims Nuekar!
Nuekar's punch MASSACRES you!
Your shield blocks Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<798/982 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Tintinius scans north.
Tintinius scans south.
Tintinius scans east.
Tintinius scans west.
Tintinius scans up.
Tintinius scans down.
Gahlial looks at Nuekar.
You stop using a shield from the hide of a snow worm.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<798/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> tr nue
You trip Nuekar and he goes down!
Your trip scratches Nuekar.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<798/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Tintinius grunts something incomprehensible, not amused by his circumstances.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<798/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar dodges your poisonous bite.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar's punch MASSACRES you!
Nuekar's punch MANGLES you!
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<641/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> c
Tintinius looks at you.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<641/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> cb Quick
Tintinius looks at Nuekar.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<641/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> cb Quick, he dying

Nuekar dodges your poisonous bite.
Nuekar dodges your claw.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You step inside Nuekar's punch with a quick backfist.
Your claw MANGLES Nuekar!
You step inside Nuekar's punch with a quick backfist.
Your claw DISMEMBERS Nuekar!
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<641/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> tr nue

Nuekar pummels you with his fists.
Nuekar's pummeling blow MUTILATES you!
Nuekar's pummeling blow DISMEMBERS you!
Nuekar's pummeling blow MUTILATES you!
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<501/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> Nanorab: Quick, he dying
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<501/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> In one fluid motion, you bring your leg inside of Nuekar's
then sweep it!
Your trip scratches Nuekar.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<501/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You step inside Nuekar's punch with a quick backfist.
Your claw MUTILATES Nuekar!
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<501/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Gahlial looks at Nuekar.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<501/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar dodges your poisonous bite.
Your claw devastates Nuekar!
Nuekar's punch MUTILATES you!
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar's punch DISMEMBERS you!
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<397/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)>
Gahlial looks at you.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<397/962 433/603 951 27650tnl(wilderness)(11 AM)(outdoor)> bindw

The clouds disappear.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<404/962 446/603 985 27650tnl(wilderness)(12 PM)(outdoor)> You bandage your wounds and focus your natural healing.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<480/962 412/603 985 27650tnl(wilderness)(12 PM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar dodges your poisonous bite.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<480/962 412/603 985 27650tnl(wilderness)(12 PM)(outdoor)>
Thnadri: Who?
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

<480/962 412/603 985 27650tnl(wilderness)(12 PM)(outdoor)> calt
Nuekar pummels you with his fists.
Nuekar's pummeling blow DISMEMBERS you!
Nuekar's pummeling blow DISMEMBERS you!
Nuekar's pummeling blow EVISCERATES you!
Nuekar gets in one more shot as you flee.
Nuekar's parting blow misses you.
Sea of Despair


You flee from combat!

<320/962 412/603 981 27650tnl(wilderness)(12 PM)(outd

*** I flee, heal, and return swiftly before the maledicts wear off.
*** As you can see from the clock its only 4 hours later.

<716/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> tr nue

Nuekar has arrived.

<716/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> You trip Nuekar and he goes down!
You trample around loudly again.
Your trip scratches Nuekar.
Nuekar yells 'Help! Nanorab just tripped me!'
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<716/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Your poisonous bite decimates Nuekar!
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Your shield blocks Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<716/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> cb Bring orangu
Thnadri: Gahlial is there..
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<716/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> cb Bring orangutan

Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<716/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> No way! You are still fighting!
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<716/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> Nuekar effortlessly dodges your trip, almost as if he knew it
was coming.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<716/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar's punch MASSACRES you!
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<637/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar laces his fingers together and hammers his fists at you!
Nuekar's crushing blow knocks you down!
Nuekar's crushing blow *** DEVASTATES *** you!
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<499/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> flee
Nuekar effortlessly dodges your attack, almost as if he knew it was coming.
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
You wrap flames around Nuekar, charring his exposed flesh!
Your pillar of fire DISMEMBERS Nuekar!
Nuekar's punch *** DEVASTATES *** you!
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<354/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> flee
flee

Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<354/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> Nanorab: Bring orangutan
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<354/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> As you turn to flee, you are shocked as Nuekar has already cut
off your planned means of escape!
Nuekar has a few scratches.

<354/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)> flee

Your poisonous bite decimates Nuekar!
A sharp, yellowed fang poisons Nuekar.
Nuekar looks very ill.
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You barely manage to turn Nuekar's punch aside.
Your shield blocks Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<354/971 319/603 943 27650tnl(wilderness)(4 PM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar laces his fingers together and hammers his fists at you!
Nuekar's crushing blow leaves you dazed!
Nuekar's crushing blow *** DEMOLISHES *** you!
You feel susceptible to magic again.
Nuekar shivers and suffers.
Nuekar's poison injures him.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<257/971 331/603 999 27650tnl(wilderness)(5 PM)(outdoor)>
Gahlial has arrived.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<257/971 331/603 999 27650tnl(wilderness)(5 PM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar's punch MANGLES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
As you turn to flee, you are shocked as Nuekar has already cut off your planned means of escape!
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<176/971 331/603 999 27650tnl(wilderness)(5 PM)(outdoor)>
Gahlial leaves south.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<176/971 331/603 999 27650tnl(wilderness)(5 PM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
You dodge Nuekar's punch.
You parry Nuekar's punch.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<176/971 331/603 999 27650tnl(wilderness)(5 PM)(outdoor)>
Gahlial has arrived.
As you turn to flee, you are shocked as Nuekar has already cut off your planned means of escape!
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<176/971 331/603 999 27650tnl(wilderness)(5 PM)(outdoor)> flee

Gahlial looks at you.
Nuekar laces his fingers together and hammers his fists at you!
Nuekar's crushing blow knocks you down!
Nuekar's crushing blow MANGLES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

<80/971 331/603 999 27650tnl(wilderness)(5 PM)(outdoor)>
Nuekar parries your poisonous bite.
Nuekar's punch *** DEVASTATES *** you!
You have been KILLED!!

You have died, but the Carrion Fields are not finished with you yet!
Your soul is returned to the realms in the form of a ghost.
You will return to your corporeal state in a short while.
Be careful, for even a ghost should fear some dangers!

This legacy seems to be a 'win all'. I have no problem of it being a bonus, but a slowed, offhandless gnome with so much -dex and -str should not be severely out tanking an assassin. With skill dodging and blocking of flees coming up in only the time it took to get him down that much health, I seriously think this legacy needs tweaking. Either let the person forget what they learn when their adrenaline is gone or stop pumping up the charges so fast that this happens.
53864, Commentary:
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I actually don't have a problem with the way striking is performing in this log. Nuekar's losing a fair share of fights; his legacy is definitely not acting as an 'I win' button.

That being said...

What I do have a problem with is the fact that a hand to hand warrior currently loses basically zero of his offensive power no matter how far his stats drop. That is something I've been meaning to address for a while and keep forgetting, but finally did last night. Hand to hand is still almost certainly the best spec to have as you near 3 str/dex, but probably they'll notice losing a bit of oomph if extreme stat loss sets in.

I did spot and fix a few small bugs with this:

>As you turn to flee, you are shocked as Nuekar has already cut
>off your planned means of escape!

But nothing that would have made a difference in this fight. I'll slap up some bug board on that when I get the chance.
53994, Htoh dicussion on gameplay nt
Posted by Tehbigc on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
53917, A log of striking at its moderate
Posted by Edimus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM






You are affected by:
Song: 'canticle of the gods' modifies save vs spell by -18 for 45 hours.
Song: 'canticle of the gods' modifies hit roll by 8 for 45 hours.
Spell: 'giant strength' modifies strength by 1 for 13 hours.
Song: 'chant of resilience' modifies save vs mental by -10 for 12 hours.
Song: 'chant of resilience' modifies armor class by -15 for 12 hours.
Song: 'anthem of resistance' for 10 hours.
Spell: 'nightwalker' for 7 hours.
Spell: 'fly' for 5 hours.
Physical effect: 'water breathing' for 5 hours.
Spell: 'enlarge' modifies size by 1 for 2 hours.
Spell: 'enlarge' modifies damage roll by 1 for 2 hours.
Spell: 'enlarge' modifies constitution by 1 for 2 hours.
Spell: 'enlarge' modifies dexterity by -2 for 2 hours.
Spell: 'enlarge' modifies strength by 2 for 2 hours.
Skill: 'sharpen sight' for 1 hours.
Song: 'battaglia' modifies damage roll by 10 for 0 hours.
Song: 'battaglia' modifies hit roll by 10 for 0 hours.


973/973 580/733 269/824 civilized outdoor 1 PM 24900 tune
You turn an attentive ear to a silver lyre and begin tuning it.

973/973 565/733 269/824 civilized outdoor 1 PM 24900 Nuekar has arrived.

973/973 565/733 269/824 civilized outdoor 1 PM 24900
Nuekar leaves east.

973/973 565/733 269/824 civilized outdoor 1 PM 24900
Nuekar has arrived.

973/973 565/733 269/824 civilized outdoor 1 PM 24900
Nuekar leaves west.

973/973 565/733 269/824 civilized outdoor 1 PM 24900
Nuekar has arrived.

973/973 565/733 269/824 civilized outdoor 1 PM 24900
You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Nuekar!'
Nuekar's stab wounds you.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

954/973 565/733 269/824 civilized outdoor 1 PM 24900
You cannot tune an instrument and fight at the same time!
Nuekar is in perfect health.

954/973 565/733 269/824 civilized outdoor 1 PM 24900
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
A falcon dives out of the sky, snatching a field mouse up with its talons.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar dodges your claw.
Lightning flashes in the sky.
You are sober.
You feel less pugilistic.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

962/973 572/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900 sing sym
You sing 'Can you trust your eyes, do they see what's real
Am I here just near to you, near enough to feel?
Or am I near the gnarled oak just over to your left
Or maybe standing to your right before the granite cleft?'
Nuekar is in perfect health.

962/973 552/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
Renillian has arrived.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

962/973 552/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
Nuekar looks at you.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

962/973 552/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
Nuekar's stab mauls you.
Nuekar's stab wounds you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

921/973 552/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900 sing symph

Renillian looks at you.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

921/973 552/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
Nuekar stops using an iron awl pike.
You sing 'Can you trust your eyes, do they see what's real
Am I here just near to you, near enough to feel?
Or am I near the gnarled oak just over to your left
Or maybe standing to your right before the granite cleft?'
Nuekar's senses become distorted by your illusion.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

921/973 532/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900 Nuekar tries to stun some empty air near you.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

921/973 532/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
Renillian looks at Nuekar.
Nuekar is in perfect health.

921/973 532/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
The Nightwalker's claw decimates Nuekar!
Nuekar's punch injures you.
Nuekar dodges your claw.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

905/973 532/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
Nuekar's punch wounds you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar dodges your claw.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

885/973 532/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900 sing lang
You sing 'A burden you feel, deep in your soul;
Your muscles grow weak, your thoughts slow.
Lethargy creeps slowly into your limbs,
Trudging through winter's deep snow.'
Nuekar has a few scratches.

885/973 512/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
Nuekar wields an iron awl pike.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

885/973 512/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
The Nightwalker's claw devastates Nuekar!
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

885/973 512/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900 sing lang

Nuekar makes a furious drive and pushes you both into Along the Eastern Road!
Along the Eastern Road
Constructed of great slabs of closely fitted stone, a wide and well-
traveled road runs to the east and west here. An untended field of high
grass lies to the north, growing right up to the edge of the road.
Beyond this field, cultivated fields and pastures spread out to the limit
of the horizon in all directions, covering the gently rolling hills. A
wide dirt path breaks off from the road and runs to the south alongside a
crumbling wooden fence. Stunted trees twist their way up to either side
of the path, the space between them filled with thin, tough grass.


A sign points south towards Blackclaw Village.
Nuekar the gnome is here, fighting YOU!
With a second furious rush, he sends you sprawling!
Nuekar's furious drive mauls you.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

863/973 512/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
You parry Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

863/973 512/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
Renillian has arrived.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

863/973 512/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
The Nightwalker has arrived.
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
Nuekar has a few scratches.

863/973 512/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
You nimbly sidestep Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

863/973 512/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900 You sing 'A burden you feel, deep in your soul;
Your muscles grow weak, your thoughts slow.
Lethargy creeps slowly into your limbs,
Trudging through winter's deep snow.'
Nuekar appears weak and weary.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

863/973 492/733 325/824 civilized outdoor 2 PM 24900
Your sight dulls again.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

873/973 502/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Renillian looks at Nuekar.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

873/973 502/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

873/973 502/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 sing labor

Nuekar makes a furious drive and pushes you both into Along the Eastern Road!
Along the Eastern Road
Constructed of great slabs of closely fitted stone, a wide and well-
traveled road runs to the east and west here. An untended field of high
grass lies to the north, growing right up to the edge of the road.
Beyond this field, cultivated fields and pastures spread out to the
limit of the horizon in all directions, covering the gently rolling
countryside. To the south of the road, the broken spires and crumbled
towers of a ruined ancient city are visible in the distance, rising above
the sparse forest of twisted and stunted trees that covers the land in
this direction.


Nuekar the gnome is here, fighting YOU!
With a second furious rush, he sends you sprawling!
Nuekar's furious drive mauls you.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

851/973 502/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Renillian has arrived.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

851/973 502/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
The Nightwalker has arrived.
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
The Nightwalker's claw decimates Nuekar!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

851/973 502/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Nuekar's stab mauls you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar flows to one side as your claw passes.
Nuekar dodges your claw.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 502/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 Your music seems to fall on deaf ears.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 492/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Renillian looks at you.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 492/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 sing labor

You parry Nuekar's stab.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 492/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Thraeymar has arrived.
Maddie the local beauty has arrived.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 492/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 492/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Thraeymar leaves east.
Maddie the local beauty leaves east.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 492/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 You sing 'I feel a weakness deep within me
I am but mortal, forever I cannot last
I look to the end, and I grow weary
My time is coming, coming fast
How I wish my time would last.'
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 472/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 Nuekar makes a furious drive but falls back.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 472/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 472/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 sing labor

Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 472/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 You sing 'I feel a weakness deep within me
I am but mortal, forever I cannot last
I look to the end, and I grow weary
My time is coming, coming fast
How I wish my time would last.'
Nuekar sags, appearing to bear an invisible burden.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
The Nightwalker's claw maims Nuekar!
You stop Nuekar's stab with a solid blow.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar dodges your claw.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Nuekar makes a furious drive but falls back.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 dirt

You parry Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
With a quick twist Nuekar moves to the side of your claw.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 Nuekar is blinded by the dirt in his eyes!
Your kicked dirt scratches Nuekar.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
A cloud giant patrolman has arrived.
A Galadonian patrolman has arrived.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

830/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 rip

Nuekar makes a furious drive and pushes you both into Along the Eastern Road!
Along the Eastern Road
Constructed of great slabs of closely fitted stone, a wide and well-
traveled road runs to the east and west here. To the north of the road
lies a cultivated field, filled with row upon row of green, leafy plants.
Beyond this field, cultivated fields and pastures spread out to the limit
of the horizon in all directions, covering the gently rolling
countryside. A sparse forest of twisted and stunted trees grows to the
south, the broken spires and crumbled walls of an ancient ruined city
visible in the distance, rising above the trees.


Nuekar the gnome is here, fighting YOU!
With a second furious rush, he sends you sprawling!
Nuekar's furious drive injures you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

815/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
A cloud giant patrolman has arrived.
A Galadonian patrolman has arrived.
The Nightwalker has arrived.
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
Nuekar has a few scratches.

815/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Renillian has arrived.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

815/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar dodges your claw.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

815/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
A cloud giant patrolman leaves east.
A Galadonian patrolman leaves east.
Nuekar has a few scratches.

815/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 You swipe a jade dragon claw across Nuekar's body, cutting him!
Your swipe EVISCERATES Nuekar!
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar's stab maims you!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar meets your claw with a resounding impact.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

779/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Nuekar makes a furious drive and pushes you both into Along the Eastern Road!
Along the Eastern Road
Constructed of great slabs of closely fitted stone, a wide and well-
traveled road runs to the east and west here. To the north of the road
lies an open pasture of stringy grass, grazed upon by a few skinny heads
of cattle. Beyond this field, cultivated fields and pastures spread out
to the limit of the horizon in all directions, demonstrating quite
clearly why this region is considered the breadbasket of Thera. A sparse
wilderness of twisted and stunted trees grows to the south, in sharp
contrast to the civilized countryside on the opposite side of the road.
Rising above the trees in the distance are the ruined towers and
crumbling spires of an ancient city.


A sign points south towards the Ruins of Ostalagiah.
Nuekar the gnome is here, fighting YOU!
A dwarf in a Galadonian uniform paces the road.
A cloud giant hovers here, clad in a Galadonian uniform.
With a second furious rush, he sends you sprawling!
Nuekar's furious drive wounds you.
The Nightwalker has arrived.
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar parries your claw.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

760/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
The Nightwalker's claw decimates Nuekar!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
You parry Nuekar's stab.
Your claw devastates Nuekar!
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

760/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Renillian has arrived.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

760/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900 rip

A cloud giant patrolman leaves east.
A Galadonian patrolman leaves east.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

760/973 452/733 381/824 civilized outdoor 3 PM 24900
Nuekar wipes the dirt from his eyes.
You feel yourself shrink back to normal size.
Nuekar has some small but disgusting cuts.

767/973 465/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 You swipe a jade dragon claw across Nuekar's body, cutting him!
Nuekar's jagged wound spews forth blood!
Your swipe MANGLES Nuekar!
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

767/973 465/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 Nuekar looks tougher.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

767/973 465/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
The Nightwalker's claw decimates Nuekar!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar knocks your claw harmlessly to the side.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

767/973 465/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Nuekar begins executing some movements with his polearm.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

767/973 465/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Nuekar's stab maims you!
Nuekar's stab maims you!
You parry Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

700/973 465/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 rem claw

Nuekar entraps your weapon and strips it from you!
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

700/973 465/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 You do not have that item.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

700/973 465/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 sing elv
You sing 'Ah! the voice of by gone days
Will come back again,
Whispering to the weary hearted
Many a soothing strain.'

The solemn melody gently numbs your pain.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

766/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Nuekar's stab devastates you!
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

734/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Nuekar makes a furious drive and pushes you both into Along the Eastern Road!
Along the Eastern Road
Constructed of great slabs of closely fitted stone, a wide and well-
traveled road runs to the east and west here. A huge field, filled with
row upon row of towering corn stalks, lies to the north, separated from
the road by a low wall of loosely piled stones. Beyond this field,
cultivated fields and pastures spread out to the limit of the horizon in
all directions. A sparse wilderness of twisted and stunted trees grows
to the south, in sharp contrast to the civilized countryside on the
opposite side of the road. Rising above the trees in the distance are
the ruined towers and crumbling spires of an ancient city.


Nuekar the gnome is here, fighting YOU!
A dryad peers at you inquisitively from behind her tree.
A ranger stands here, inspecting the ground.
With a second furious rush, he sends you sprawling!
Nuekar's furious drive wounds you.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

716/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
The Nightwalker has arrived.
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

716/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 get claw

Renillian has arrived.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar dodges your punch.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

716/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 wie claw

The Nightwalker's claw decimates Nuekar!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar parries your punch.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

716/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 You see no claw here for you to take.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

716/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 You do not have that item.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

716/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
A ranger's skin becomes covered in bark.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

716/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Nuekar makes a furious drive and pushes you both into Along the Eastern Road!
Along the Eastern Road
Constructed of great slabs of closely fitted stone, a wide and well-
traveled road runs to the east and west here. A huge field, filled with
row upon row of towering corn stalks, lies to the north, separated from
the road by a low wall of loosely piled stones. Beyond this field,
cultivated fields and pastures spread out to the limit of the horizon in
all directions, dotted here and there with small farmhouses. Stretching
off to the south of the road as far as the eye can see is a sparse forest
of twisted and stunted trees.


Nuekar the gnome is here, fighting YOU!
With a second furious rush, he sends you sprawling!
Nuekar's furious drive wounds you.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

697/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Renillian has arrived.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

697/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 sing vibr

Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar parries your punch.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

697/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
The Nightwalker has arrived.
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

697/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

697/973 450/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 You sing 'Now, though wintery winds be blowing,
Night be foul, with raining, snowing,
Still the trav'ller, that way going
Shuns the inn upon the moor.'
Your reverberating blast *** DEMOLISHES *** Nuekar!
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

697/973 410/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Tehuti has arrived.
The Treant has arrived.
A carnivorous vine has arrived.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

697/973 410/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Nuekar's stab devastates you!
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

667/973 410/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Tehuti leaves.
A carnivorous vine leaves east.
The Treant leaves east.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

667/973 410/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Tehuti yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by a Galadonian patrolman!'
Tehuti yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by a cloud giant patrolman!'
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

667/973 410/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Renillian looks at Nuekar.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

667/973 410/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar's stab misses you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your punch.
Nuekar dodges your punch.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

667/973 410/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900 sing vibr

Nuekar makes a furious drive but falls back.
You sing 'Now, though wintery winds be blowing,
Night be foul, with raining, snowing,
Still the trav'ller, that way going
Shuns the inn upon the moor.'
Your reverberating blast *** DEMOLISHES *** Nuekar!
Nuekar is gushing blood.

667/973 370/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

667/973 370/733 437/824 civilized outdoor 4 PM 24900
Nuekar continues to bleed from his wounds.
Nuekar's bleeding decimates him!
Nuekar is gushing blood.

677/973 382/733 493/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900 sing vibr

The Nightwalker's claw maims Nuekar!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar's stab MUTILATES you!
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

635/973 382/733 493/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Nuekar has fled!
Nuekar leaves east.
You sing 'Now, though wintery winds be blowing,
Night be foul, with raining, snowing,
Still the trav'ller, that way going
Shuns the inn upon the moor.'

635/973 342/733 493/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900 e

Chelm yells 'I'm sorry to hear that'

635/973 342/733 493/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900 Along the Eastern Road
Constructed of great slabs of closely fitted stone, a wide and well-
traveled road runs to the east and west here. Nestled in the folds of a
large, green pasture to the north of the road lies a small spring-fed
pond. A large herd of sheep grazes the lush grass of the pasture,
ignoring your presence completely. Beyond this pasture, cultivated
fields and small farms spread out to the limit of the horizon in all
directions. Stretching off to the south of the road as far as the eye
can see is a sparse forest of twisted and stunted trees.


Nuekar the gnome is here.
Renillian has arrived.

635/973 342/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Nuekar!'
Nuekar's stab decimates you!
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is covered with bleeding wounds.

608/973 342/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900 sing vibr
You sing 'Now, though wintery winds be blowing,
Night be foul, with raining, snowing,
Still the trav'ller, that way going
Shuns the inn upon the moor.'
Your reverberating blast *** DEMOLISHES *** Nuekar!
Nuekar is gushing blood.

608/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
The Nightwalker has arrived.
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
Nuekar is gushing blood.

608/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Renillian looks at Nuekar.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

608/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar parries your punch.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

608/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar parries your punch.
Nuekar parries your punch.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

608/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Nuekar makes a furious drive and pushes you both into Along the Eastern Road!
Along the Eastern Road
Constructed of great slabs of closely fitted stone, a wide and well-
traveled road runs to the east and west here. Neat rows of green, leafy
vegetables fill a small, cultivated field to the north. Beyond this
pasture, cultivated fields and small farms spread out to the limit of the
horizon in all directions. Stretching off to the south of the road as
far as the eye can see is a sparse forest of twisted and stunted trees.


Nuekar the gnome is here, fighting YOU!
Chelm the gnome is here.
A huge tree has uprooted itself at the bidding of Tehuti.
With a second furious rush, he sends you sprawling!
Nuekar's furious drive hits you.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

597/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900 sing vibr

The Treant slowly fades away.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

597/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Renillian has arrived.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

597/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
The Nightwalker has arrived.
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
Nuekar's stab devastates you!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

566/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Renillian looks at you.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

566/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900 sing vibr

Nuekar's stab MUTILATES you!
Nuekar's stab decimates you!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar keeps you at a distance with the tip of his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

498/973 302/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900 You sing 'Now, though wintery winds be blowing,
Night be foul, with raining, snowing,
Still the trav'ller, that way going
Shuns the inn upon the moor.'
Your reverberating blast *** DEMOLISHES *** Nuekar!
Your reverberating blast MANGLES Maldovar!
Maldovar yells 'Help! Edimus attacked me!'
Nuekar is gushing blood.

498/973 262/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Maldovar steps out of the shadows.
Maldovar has fled!
Nuekar is gushing blood.

498/973 262/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar parries your punch.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

498/973 262/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Renillian looks at Nuekar.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar parries your punch.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

498/973 262/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900 sing vibr

Nuekar gets a wild look in his eyes.
Your music seems to fall on deaf ears.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

498/973 242/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
Chelm gasps
Nuekar is gushing blood.

498/973 242/733 492/824 civilized outdoor 5 PM 24900
The Nightwalker's claw devastates Nuekar!
The Nightwalker tears at Nuekar with its claws!
The Nightwalker's tearing claws misses Nuekar.
The Nightwalker's tearing claws misses Nuekar.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar's stab EVISCERATES you!
Nuekar dodges your punch.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

463/973 249/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar's stab MUTILATES you!
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

424/973 249/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
Chelm drinks water from a water skin.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

424/973 249/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
Nuekar makes a furious drive and pushes you both into Along the Eastern Road!
Along the Eastern Road
Constructed of great slabs of closely fitted stone, a wide and well-
traveled road runs to the east and west here. An empty field of freshly
turned earth lies to the north beyond a low stone fence, bordered to the
east and west by a thin screen of tall trees. Beyond this field,
cultivated pastures and small farms spread out to the limit of the
horizon in all directions. Stretching off to the south of the road as
far as the eye can see is a sparse forest of twisted and stunted trees.


Nuekar the gnome is here, fighting YOU!
With a second furious rush, he sends you sprawling!
Nuekar's furious drive injures you.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

411/973 249/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
The Nightwalker has arrived.
Nuekar yells 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
Nuekar is gushing blood.

411/973 249/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
Renillian has arrived.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

411/973 249/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
The Nightwalker's claw devastates Nuekar!
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar's stab maims you!
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

377/973 249/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
Renillian looks at you.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

377/973 249/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900 sing vibr

You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar's stab MUTILATES you!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is gushing blood.

339/973 249/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900 You sing 'Now, though wintery winds be blowing,
Night be foul, with raining, snowing,
Still the trav'ller, that way going
Shuns the inn upon the moor.'
Your reverberating blast *** DEMOLISHES *** Nuekar!
Chelm has arrived.
Renillian looks at Nuekar.
Nuekar is writhing in agony.

339/973 209/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
The Nightwalker's claw maims Nuekar!
The Nightwalker tears at Nuekar with its claws!
The Nightwalker's tearing claws devastates Nuekar!
The Nightwalker's tearing claws devastates Nuekar!
The Nightwalker's claws tear deeply into Nuekar's stomach!
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar's stab MUTILATES you!
Nuekar's stab MUTILATES you!
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is writhing in agony.

262/973 209/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900 sing vibr

The Nightwalker's claw decimates Nuekar!
The Nightwalker lunges at Nuekar with venomous fangs!
Nuekar turns slightly green, but it passes.
Nuekar's stab MUTILATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Nuekar's stab maims you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Nuekar's stab MUTILATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Nuekar dodges your punch.
Nuekar is writhing in agony.

148/973 209/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900 You sing 'Now, though wintery winds be blowing,
Night be foul, with raining, snowing,
Still the trav'ller, that way going
Shuns the inn upon the moor.'
Your reverberating blast *** DEMOLISHES *** Nuekar!
Nuekar is convulsing on the ground.

148/973 169/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
Renillian looks at you.
Nuekar is convulsing on the ground.

148/973 169/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
The Nightwalker's claw MUTILATES Nuekar!
You twist yourself around Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar's stab MUTILATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Nuekar keeps you at a distance by swinging his polearm in wide arcs.
Nuekar is convulsing on the ground.

110/973 169/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
Renillian looks at Nuekar.
Nuekar is convulsing on the ground.

110/973 169/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900 sing vibr

You dodge Nuekar's stab.
Nuekar tries to attack some empty air near you.
Nuekar parries your punch.
Nuekar keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Nuekar is convulsing on the ground.

110/973 169/733 548/824 civilized outdoor 6 PM 24900
Nuekar continues to bleed from his wounds.
Nuekar's leaking blood pools upon the ground.
Nuekar's bleeding maims him!
Nuekar is DEAD!!
Nuekar's head is shattered, and his brains splash all over you.
You slowly float to the ground.
You can no longer breathe in water.






53918, Gnome is a hell of a match up for bard, too.
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Not so much in that they're scary but that they're hard as hell for a bard to bring a lot of their best abilities to bear on.

Not to diss Nuekar, mind you... I've got a lot of respect for how far he managed to go without being inducted into Battle, as a Battle-app warrior living with those restrictions.
53913, You got beat by a one-handed gnome.
Posted by Pro-man on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
That's awesome.

I fought neukar growing up. He's not a dummy.
53865, Aside:
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I don't think I would've gone to the trip spam quite as early as you did. C'est la vie.
53871, What about owaza? Double spin kick? He's a GNOMER!! NT
Posted by _Magus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
53880, I think we should discuss not how Nanorab
Posted by Elhe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
could win that battle or how to act but how much power this legacy gives (I do not think Nuekar wins/loses means something :)) For me it give more than any other legacy I know :) (I do not know much legacies though)

p.s. I do not see why warrior with this legacy should have superiority on enemy he just killed :)
53882, RE: I think we should discuss not how Nanorab
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>could win that battle or how to act but how much power this
>legacy gives (I do not think Nuekar wins/loses means something
>:))

It absolutely means something, unless we assume he's an anomaly as a player for his choices. I mean, probably overhead throws more damage in a single blow than any other warrior skill, but it doesn't really make sense to look at that in a vacuum.

To have Striking and use it effectively, you need to build a "smart" warrior. Many of the "better" warrior racial options aren't. You need to build a warrior who will have long fights; many good builds don't skew that way.

And so on... to build a character who really can use the legacy, you need to make a handful of choices, most of which are sub-optimal. The rest of the character and what they're able to accomplish is meaningful.

>For me it give more than any other legacy I know :) (I do
>not know much legacies though)

When it's running at full power that's probably true...

We'll just toss the doesn't-work-against-mobs thing aside. I mean, it'd be handy for raiding and what not if it did, but I don't see that as an enormous drawback to this legacy.

Neukar's legacy choices are fairly evident from this log. What he notably does not have is anything I would consider defensive. A gnome pole spec is not what I would consider a great tank. The wonder to me is that people aren't more frequently blowing through him before the legacy gets rolling. Resistance is nice, but it only goes so far... and personally I find it hard to keep Five-Color as Battle for very long, since most of your opponents will want it even if they don't want most of your gear when they kill you.

If I told you: You can have the toughest legacy in the game. All you have to is be a gnome warrior, fight an opponent for like 20 rounds, and not die. Then, you'll be in great shape and ready to whip up on them. I mean, how silly is that? Doesn't a warrior who's looting his opponent's corpse on round 6 just sound better?

>p.s. I do not see why warrior with this legacy should have
>superiority on enemy he just killed :)

Logically it makes sense (you don't forget how to beat that guy's ass that fast) but game-balance-wise I probably could agree with changing that so you 'forget' people who die.
53884, Question about dying
Posted by Tac on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Does it matter if you (the legacy haver) die? Do you forget people you have fought if you die? I would argue that it makes logical and game-balance sense for that to be the case (seeing as how you "forget" experience gained and whatnot).
53885, RE: Question about dying
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Without looking at the code to be sure, I think so.
53986, RE: Question about dying
Posted by Karel on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Are we sure it makes sense? By the helpfile I would say defeat doesn't matter. And what if two warriors have the legacy and one dies, one keeps his full advantage and the other needs to build up again?
53889, RE: I think we should discuss not how Nanorab
Posted by Valkenar on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>A gnome pole spec is not what I would consider a
>great tank.
>...
> The wonder to me is that people aren't more
>frequently blowing through him before the legacy gets rolling.
> Resistance is nice, but it only goes so far.

Maybe not *great* but definitely pretty good. Low weight and small size means good dodge even with mediocre dex. Distance seems to work just fine for him, and of course he can also parry. Resistance is only part of the picture, he has at least two other significant elements that allow him to extend a fight, or escape one he's losing. Plus he probably has top-tier hitpoins for general-purpose endurance. Remember also that if he is lucky and gets a few parry bonuses early in the fight that helps. And if he doesn't, he can just run away and still be better off next time. He doesn't have to get 20 rounds in one fight.

All in all it's a smart build, that aligns several different elements. Basically it seems to take Dinkertot and add a few more relevant pieces. I don't think it's overpowered by any means, but it does seem quite solid all around.
53904, RE: I think we should discuss not how Nanorab
Posted by Tac on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>All in all it's a smart build, that aligns several different
>elements. Basically it seems to take Dinkertot and add a few
>more relevant pieces. I don't think it's overpowered by any
>means, but it does seem quite solid all around.

Except for the 44 or 48 levels of being a regular (actually worse since he's village) gnome warrior.
53915, RE: I think we should discuss not how Nanorab
Posted by DeathClaw-lazy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Here are my general thoughts on the legacy:

1) It only works for warriors who are typically at a large-to-huge disadvantage pre-legacy against the most popular combinations for enemies in the game. Elf warrior, gnome warrior, etc, should get fairly easily thrashed with their melee vulns pre-hero without support class assistance from 11 to 44, because midround attacks like drum and flurry, not to mention the almightly bash will own them. In combos like this, its advantageous to feverishly rank to hero, which not only excludes them from some of the most high-lethality rate fighting in the game, its also boring. Additionally, these combos tend to further need lots of preps and good gear to work.

2) This legacy, for whatever it does, doesn't make me want to play an elf sword spec when fire giant sword spec over the years has proven itself to be a tried and true powerbuild. The amount of effort you have to put in one over the other isn't negligable. If I applied that same effort to a "more garden variety" build, I would imagine over the long haul I should expect better yields. However, it is easy to become confused when you stack up a skilled elf warrior next to an unskilled giant warrior. Skill trumps build, as Jinroh displayed with his specless tribunal warrior.

3) Neukar in specific doesn't seem like a tough character to fight. I don't mean this as an insult to the player, I mean this based on his choices. I can't see a single character I'd play having trouble against that combo and I'm not sure how anyone can. If he was a dagger spec, then maybe I'd be worried, but hand/pole is not the most offensive choices in the world. He can barely lag you, can't cause bleeding and can't dish out 800 hp in 2 rounds. As far as rager warriors go, I'm a lot less afraid of him than I am of your typical dwarf axe spec.

4) I've seen 200 pk assassins and warriors regularly, when I see a 300pk gnome one with this legacy I'll be inclined to believe its overpowered.
53919, This is pretty much exactly what I was trying to say.
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I think Nuekar's got an interesting and certainly so far unique build. It can do some things more common builds can't. But, that being said, I don't exactly see it replacing staples like fire sword warrior.
53930, Alternatingly frustrating and Insanely powerful, we are...
Posted by Fire Sword on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Much like I'm sure Nuekar is.
53931, Spoken like a true Jedi nt.
Posted by Obi Van Bashed on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
.
53932, Mages shouldn't die to nuekar
Posted by Valkenar on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
> He can barely lag you

Not really true. He can get trip lag reasonably reliably. That's not overwhelming, but it's not nothing.

>4) I've seen 200 pk assassins and warriors regularly, when I
>see a 300pk gnome one with this legacy I'll be inclined to
>believe its overpowered.

He can't lag, and he doesn't do fast damage. I don't think any competant mage should die to him very often. In fact, anybody who can word reliably in combat should pretty much never die to him if they're halfway cautious. In fact, neither should an assassin. Vanish could've saved nanorab easily.
53926, RE: I think we should discuss not how Nanorab
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>If I told you: You can have the toughest legacy in the game.
>All you have to is be a gnome warrior, fight an opponent for
>like 20 rounds, and not die. Then, you'll be in great shape
>and ready to whip up on them. I mean, how silly is that?
>Doesn't a warrior who's looting his opponent's corpse on round
>6 just sound better?

Here's the deal with what you just said. Let me preface this by saying that I don't fully agree with the original poster that the legacy is grossly overpowered, but I'm not sure I agree with you either that it's all peachy.

As I understand it those 20 rounds don't have to come consecutively. So I can hit you, fight a few rounds, flee, then maybe fight you again later, etc. etc. After that, I'm going to have a relatively easy time whipping your ass. Not just whipping your ass and making you run away, but turning you into a corpse at my feet.

That's what people take issue with. The fact that it's so difficult to *achieve* that advantage and that it comes at a price (having to play a sub-optimal race, having a legacy that's useless aganist mobs, etc.) may be mitigating factors, but they're just that.

Suppose there were a legacy that was predicated on having an extremely low constitution. Over the course of a character's entire life. So, to have this legacy work to its full extent, my character is going to miss out on some serious hp. So it's sub-optimal. Let's further say that for this legacy to work, I have to have 100 gold on my person. (I realize that makes no sense, but bear with me.) So it takes some "engineering" to make it fire. When it works, by command, my character gets the "slay" command for one tick, but it doesn't work against NPCs.

Would that be a good legacy? Would the fact that it 1) forces me to choose a sub-optimal combo, 2) requires alot of "work" to make happen and 3) doesn't work against NPCs somehow negate the fact that giving "slay" to a mortal is just silly?

Now, obviously Striking doesn't equate to "slay" even when it's working at its best. The point people are trying to make is that maybe it's closer to the hypothetical situation above than you (or anyeone else) wants to admit. (*)


(*) I'm not sure I agree with the critics, but I'm pretty sure that's where they're coming from.


53886, Was hoping orangutan would get there faster
Posted by Nanorab on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Nuekar tanks very good with distance. The logs where I do not maledict I get maximum of 8-9 melee hits without backfist. I got less than that in one fight on this one. My problem with legacy is that it gives so much in so short a time. I have a fight where I was hasted and he had kanset/owaza on him. It made no difference and I avoided only five hit, three dodge and two shield block in four rounds it takes him kill me. I had fought him for maybe eight rounds in the veil before that. If its going to give a gnome so much make it slower for them.

Here is list of things he got in that fight: Lot more damage, block fleeing three times, parry all except ONE hit in last fight (four hit in first fight), dodge skill like flow of shadows (better than flow of shadows, I never would take this legacy anymore) and hit like hasted.

If he learned it in fight before and didn't forget when both us died than he needs to forget it. I only fought him few times (dillo was taking hit most of time) and him removing parry after first four rounds (I was hasted) meant I lost fast. How does anyone stop you dodge at all while haste? Its too much.
53887, Something I think of
Posted by Nanorab on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
This legacy is lot of other legacy put together. Nuekar picked ward of blades, chilling embrace, flow of shadows, whirlwind of steel and way to block flee. Not better than all legacy put together, but it is better than taking any three together. Never pick smart race and take ward of blades, when have striking. Same with flow of shadows. Maybe chilling embrace or whirlwind, but this better than whirlwind where my arial who boneshatter get mace parry plenty still.
53892, Personally, I see this as some of the problem -
Posted by Straklaw on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Nanorab's looking at this from the perspective of a class that TYPICALLY also works best in long fights. When I fight assassins as a warrior, I typically find I want to clean up assassins quick, because if it lasts more than about 6 rounds, they've got a serious advantage. Unfortunately for him, Nuekar's got a legacy that also fights well that way. If I seriously wanted to kill Nuekar, I can think of an honest five to seven classes that should do VERY well killing him. You honestly think he'd significantly outlast a giant just drumming him to death?

On a second note...I probably wouldn't complain about "XXX just wiped the floor with me!" when you're not exactly showing the best use of your class skills against him. Yes, it's probably what works for most fights, but obviously that's not what's working against this build. At the very least, maybe let's try using a weapon he's not frickin' RESISTANT to? Honestly, poison against a gnome? Change up your tactics, and try something else.

All this from a class that can frickin' insta-kill ANYONE, given the right circumstances. God damn, people.

Oh, and by the way...he hit TWO in-combat attacks more than you did, in that whole slew of logs. What did the most of killing you is that while you were busy tripping him for grazes, he was busy devastating you with crushing blow, or taking two-hundredish hp off with pummel.
53902, RE:
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
1) Trip was the thing that stood out to me the most in that log. Nuekar didn't seem to be going anywhere, and wasn't obviously using a ton of short-lag commands (which Trip could conceivably force to be two rounds apart), so all Trip was doing was inconsequential damage.

2) Beyond that, Nanorab deliberately went to a single dagger (I think-- can't check from here) and bare offhand. While Backfist has its moments, I wouldn't give up Dual Wield for it on purpose, and a dagger isn't exactly the best offensive or defensive choice. (Especially a poisonous one, as noted.) As you noted, they still got in roughly similar numbers of hits-- Nuekar was making his count more.

3) Most (all?) kicks are blunt, and several lag or maledict. (Throw wouldn't work here.) I don't know if Nuekar had Five-Color in that log, but if Nanorab wanted to stress his HP, he had good alternatives available.

All in all, not a great log to say anything about Striking. I've looked at that code previously, and while it can get pretty good, the advantages given aren't as insurmountable as advertised, even in the rare situations where it's in full effect during a PK.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com
53907, RE:
Posted by Nanorab on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
1. Expecting someone else to help (a dolphin/orangutan), who didn't. Both times.

2. I'm felar and dual wield claws. I frowned because I was getting zero on offensive on a kanset slowed, wrist broken gnome when I was hasted.

3. Most of my kicks aren't blunt damage right now.

What I want to show is that I did a lot to stop him defending himself and hitting hard. His dex was very low, he was slowed, I was hasted and he did have strength gear but not enough to stop it dropping at least -12. Code and working skills are different and I wanted to show how it wasn't 'insurmountable' but that it was more of an advantage than several legacys put together give and was actually better than having something like the less malediction legacy and the ward of blades legacy put together. Daevryn posts that hand to hand will not defend as well when maledicted maybe that made the difference. I can wait and see and I don't like bitching about it all as it makes the game no fun. Nuekar is a good person to fight and he makes it fun but after so many easy, easy wins from his lagging drive when I have stoneskin, haste, martial trance and maledict him so bad I just wanted to show that its stronger than anyone thinks. I read on www.qhcf.net that people do not think it makes the biggest difference in a fight. I wanted to show it does and it isn't just me.
53927, Should we post logs of being asssinated now?
Posted by Lightmaged on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
And whine that it is overpowered?
53929, I motion that we boycott the word "Whine.
Posted by Pro-man on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It's to inflamatory to allow for a good discussion.

If it's used in a post, I urge that we not respond to it.
53908, Hmm
Posted by Dwoggurd on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>1) Trip was the thing that stood out to me the most in
>that log. Nuekar didn't seem to be going anywhere, and wasn't
>obviously using a ton of short-lag commands (which Trip
>could conceivably force to be two rounds apart), so all
>Trip was doing was inconsequential damage.

Trip can't be bad against a dying (supposely) opponent after very successful kot/kan combo.
Placed well it also may reduce the number of pummels.
53910, Well...
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Trip can't be bad against a dying (supposely) opponent after very successful kot/kan combo.
Placed well it also may reduce the number of pummels.


Even if he goes the lag route, Nanorab's got at least two kick options that are roughly as accurate and laggy as Trip, and deal a good bit of blunt damage to boot. (He implies elsewhere in the thread that he's using gear that changes that, but those things also boost your damage, and slashing plus that is probably as good as blunt.)

Change that and the odd hands option (staff? sword/shield? spear?) and he probably presses his advantage early enough that Nuekar is pretty beat up by the time Striking gets rolling, especially in the first fight. It's not a good pair of logs to judge the Legacy by.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com