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5054, (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by Death_Angel on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Tue Mar 5 19:14:21 2002
7 o''clock AM, Day of the Great Gods, 26th of the Month of the Winter Wolf on the Theran calendar Maelifarau perished, never to return.
Race: | human | Class: | necromancer | Level: | 47 | Alignment: | Evil | Ethos: | Chaotic | Cabal: | SCARAB, the Cult of the Scarab | Age: | 49 | Hours: | 209 | PK Ratio: | 91% (closer to 100% is better) |
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5055, Summary.
Posted by Maelifarau on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Allright, after all that flame, getting drunk, birthday and some thinking, I decided to write this second farewell.
Myself. Well... It was my third necro. Yizanxlach and Umethizh were my prevoius. I enjoyed all of them - necromancers most interesting class in CF. Lichquest were a reason to play them - I'm not interested in other classes because they lack it. For now, I won't have time to play, and it don't bother me much. I took a lot from CF and it taught me much - and of people, and of game. I realise that my RP skill ~= 0 and it's okay. On my foreign language I would roleplay much much much better - lack of knowledge in english really pisses me off.
Character The necro. What to say? I didn't feel my character, unlike previous. I made it into Scarab, though, maybe I didn't deserve that. I roleplayed Scarab as an evil, emotionless thing, who lack any kind of morale. The character despited clothes, and most of the time I didn't loot. Exception made ragers and full-looters - ragers because of their lack of skills and because of supreme powers they have, so any idiot may slay more or less skilled mage (i won't say they have 100% against other non-magical classes, because it's obvious). I miscount - I died five times: two on the low ranks, Omodonore took me when I had lag and were absolutely unprotected; Crain, who gaunted me while I've been learning underwater and got my wraithform fell just a moment before he gaunted :( Next death... Nydeikon. Boredoom, feeling of hopeless and self-confidence made this kind oof suicide. Two next deaths - Fristapholin and three orcs and thief gang. All my deaths were occured by lzayness and greed - I had protections but didn't wish to waste them/wast the time. By the way, I don't like current system of wands - playing became boring running around in hope to find the wand - if youre lucky. Really boring and saps a good portion of fun. From the other hand, perhaps it's only one system that may balance the game. *sigh*
Immortals Hey you. ;) Frist, you made a nice game. For keeping it alive, constantly improving and researching, big thank you. Even huge thank you. For pissing of player, big (even huge) ##### you. You could care of us a bit better - we are alive. Not all of us have much time, and month of praying could make crazy just (almost) anyone. :P Anyways, I'll probably return on the next vacation (going to happen in the next year). Make some improvements with lichquest meanwhile ;) And I won't ruin my character anymore. It's way too expensive pleasure. ;P
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5058, RE: Summary.
Posted by Scarabaeus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>I'll probably return >on the next vacation (going to happen in the next year). >Make some improvements with lichquest meanwhile ;)
Your wish is my demand.
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5056, The Orc death.
Posted by Ugly Orc on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Your tendency to do the attack/have mobs rescue you tactic got you killed there, nothing else. We could not bash you or trip you because of your protections but instead of fleeing from a four on one (+4 undead) you "order all rescue Mael" which lagged you for two rounds and only saved you from the blows of one of the four. Before that two round lag was up, I spinebroke you, demoralized you (I think I did) and trampled you lagging you for at least a round and a half. During that round and a half you died. Just for your information, the zombie rescue tactic is not very effective if you are fighting more than two people because the rescue only saves you from one of them. It may have been better to flee and return with autoassist off and hope they all autoassisted against your undead. Or maybe better to flee away and use your ability of summon to seperate them out (since we were all 40th level and easily PWKed :)
Just suggestions, you definitely kicked orc ass when you fought us two on one (+4 undead) seeing you killed us both :).
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5057, RE: The Orc death.
Posted by Mael on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
The choose of tactic were sorry, and of course, I died to my own mistake. But again, I allready got bored of the events.
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5059, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by Maelifarau on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Well well well. I had fun at the beginning of the character (first 100 hours). Second 100 hours turns into a hopeless praying. To develop a lich quest needs time, I've been told by immortal. Seems it's so hard thing to do, that 159 hours (I spectred in 50 hours) is not enough. Should I know it's so hard to do, I would not return to CF.
I didn't play since august, I believe, and returned only because of new necromancer spells. It was my only one and last character (at least, for a year or like). I made an underdog - when I rolled up and ranked to 20+ levels, there were NO ONE to learn with. Everyone been in warlock and marans. But with time things changed rapidly, and I found myself on the winning side.
Hrmph. I died four times to other players, and every death ashamed me because of it's stupidity: I didn't bother to use protections. Every single death. Impatience or lazyness... no idea.
The reason I deleted were not lack of the lich quest, but impossibility of gain it, or so I understood from the immteractions that I had. Resourcefullness... I see. I begun to do stupid things, risky fights, and such. Ended up with 145k hole and 4 PK deaths. Grrz.
The reason of this... yes, I'm russian. I know other russians, though I don't sit on IRC, nor reading their super-uber-secret forums. But my link to Geramin were enough it seems. I've no idea what Drucyrus said (if he did) about me, but probably it took a part in it. Pity.
Now, farewells.
Scarabaeus. Thank you. Sorry that I leave you this way, but I don't really think you enjoyed me in the cabal. I believe I did nothing against scarab phylosophy though... I learned much of scarab, but still not much as I would like to.
Scions: some of you I slew, some of you I travelled with. Without Tilaen you won't be so cute - Tilaen did really great work. You should care more of him. :P
Dullameh. You owe me, and now have no chance to return your debt %). Good luck with your $$$ phylacteries. You know of which ones I'm speaking. :P
Tilaen, we surely had fun. Good job. Thanks you pissing off that jerky Marlek, enjoyed that really MUCH.
Zandrumial, always had fun with you. Good character, fun roleplaying. Sometimes I laughted, though I think I should kill you more :). Healer on the 23 level underwater and necro tanking on 28... I amused myself.
Nexus: nice gang you have there. Where to IRC migrates next time? Try entropy. Should be fun.
Other cabals: none of you were a challenge, expect for conjurers. I still have no idea how to fight you - seems Scarab made you especially to kick ass of necromancers (though I slew couple of you, bastards!).
Kinda soft note, but I'm angered. Really angered. It's funny, since this is my birthday right now ;P So thank you, lichquestmakerguy. and heartly ##### you.
Bye-bye.
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5077, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Well well well. I had fun at the beginning of the character >(first 100 hours). Second 100 hours turns into a hopeless >praying. To develop a lich quest needs time, I've been told >by immortal. Seems it's so hard thing to do, that 159 hours >(I spectred in 50 hours) is not enough. Should I know it's >so hard to do, I would not return to CF.
Speed-spectring is not the way to get a lich quest faster. If anything, it's the opposite. I don't think a character has ever gotten a lich quest before their ~150th hour. The number may even be later than that, I'm not sure.
In a note from Sphere Irony, some of us were picking out what would have been your lichquest items at the very moment you deleted.
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5084, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by Maelifarau on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Speed-spectring is not the way to get a lich quest faster. >If anything, it's the opposite. I don't think a character >has ever gotten a lich quest before their ~150th hour. The >number may even be later than that, I'm not sure.
Honestly, I didn't try to powerrank. I didn't seek permagroup. I simple wished to: 1. not to think too much of mob deaths; 2. explore areas - and I explored everything but hell and ST; 3. interract not with newbies; 4. have some interesting fights.
If you noticed, I had most of my useful spells mastered (though I didn't wish to perfect PWK and got it only to 91%?). It was my first mage, who didn't really care for his health, equipement or such. Spectring so fast without any permagroup (though I never had one) was pure luck - you believe I should miss such oportunity? hell no.
> >In a note from Sphere Irony, some of us were picking out >what would have been your lichquest items at the very moment >you deleted.
The answer coudldn't be different. If you would admit 'yeah, you had no chance to get your lichquest', almost no one would play necro. At least, I would not - and I know other players who share my opinion. So sorry, Steve, but I don't believe you here.
Immortals care for the players - you claim. Really? You care so much that I'm leaving CF - and don't call me impatient. I had two months when I had no work; now I have to work, and I'm allmost thankful for pissing me off. Bye.
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5089, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Sorry, chief, but he's right. I got instructions to start picking out your items late Sunday night. (You're not in my spheres or cabal, so I never watched you all that closely.) Some project work occupied me yesterday, so I was doing it today. We got to 2, then noticed you deleted.
I'm also unaware of anyone who got a lichquest much under 200 hours. Mine certainly wasn't.
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5090, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by Maelifarau on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I personally had lich-quest at 172 hours and at 92 hours. First I fucked up, second fucked me (couldn't survive to ritual). But in both this cases I didn't pray tha much; didn't spend so much time in arboria; and I wasn't scarab.
I aksed very, very simple question: will I ever get the lichquest? The answer that I got meant 'not necessary, and most likely, no' - or at least I understood it this way. Is it so fucking hard to say 'yes, don't worry, don't bother us, don't be annoying; wait shortly, since there are no one available to begin a lichquest for you'. Is it so hard? It seems so.
Nevermind, I'll survive... (and I'll try not to flame much more here).
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5091, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Is it so hard?
It's bad enough that you broke character so often over pray or email. Don't expect us to reward that by giving you a lichquest roadmap, with handy schedule notes all over it, because that would only lead to "Will I be given a questskill? How about in 5 hours? Is 3 PM CST good for you?"
It's a roleplaying MUD. The only good reasons to break character are things like reporting bugs and rules violations.
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5092, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by NastyPope on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
If He was ooc that much and that annoying, why was he being rewarded with a lichquest. Just because a necro gets to Spectre doesnt mean they should automatically get a Lichquest. Considering the power gained by becoming a Lich, one would think it would be as hard as earning a Quest Form or Skill. Yet there are dozens of outstanding chracters who roleplay very well, whom I have never seen break role once, yet often enough never get even a title.
-Pontifex Nasticus
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5086, Small edited log enclosed:
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I had to chop a lot of imm stuff out in the middle, but you should get the gist. Enjoy.
OtherImmA tells you 'OtherImmB and I will be drafting lichquests soon.'
OtherImmA tells you 'If you have any favorites, let us know, and give us a degree of difficulty if the item is really obscure.'
Maelifarau is PRAYING for: cannot answer you.
You have created (item A)!
You give (item A) to OtherImmA.
(Stat'ing item A skipped, of course)
You tell OtherImmA 'that's a tough one'
OtherImmA tells you 'I am confident you can come up with some fair items.'
You tell OtherImmA 'Ahhh, I see.'
You have created (item B)!
(Stat'ing item B also skipped, of course)
You give (item B) to OtherImmA.
You tell OtherImmA 'That's possibly a better choice, but marginally so.'
OtherImmC says 'I sense evil in the works'
You say 'We're doing lichquest items'
You have created (item C)!
(Stats for item C also skipped)
You eat (item C).
Permanent Graveyard updated: Maelifarau
OtherImmA: Well, then.
OtherImmD: Guess there's no lichquest for that man.
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5087, RE: Small edited log enclosed:
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>OtherImmC says 'I sense evil in the works'
Curiosity question - do you guys stay "in character" while doing stuff like this, or is it more like just a bunch of people having a "meeting" in order get something done? I've always wondered to what extent you role-play when not interacting with mortals.
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5088, RE: Small edited log enclosed:
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
All Immortal-Immortal conversation is OOC except when mortals can hear it. Then we're IC to each other. Otherwise, as an example, me planning quests with Shokai would have led to one of us stabbing the other, as our roles aren't exactly very compatible.
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5085, My Opinion...
Posted by Cyradia on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I don't think we're suggesting that speed ranking hurt your chances. I think the lack of character fleshing hurt your chances. When I think of your character all I think of is 'paranoid-guy that prayed a lot'...and you were in my cabal. Roleplay, sir...roleplay.
There's a difference between not breaking character and creating a three dimensional character that immortals _want_ to interact with. Time and effort does that. If that's not clear and you want more...I could probably elaborate.
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5080, I'm backup on that one.
Posted by Boldereth on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
An Immortal tells you 'Ironically, we were picking out hi ss lich quest items when it happened.'
Anyway, kind of sad I didn't even get an honorable mention *frown*.
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5081, mention
Posted by Maelifarau on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Honestly, I simple forgot you in anger. So, here goes.
you were annoying.
bye.
:) if serious, I had lots of fun. That last death to trolloc (yeah) caused by my previous immteraction and this:
An Immortal tells you 'Well, you could break character some more...that would help.'
Following this advice didn't help. Pity.
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5082, I like being annoying...
Posted by Boldereth on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'd rather be annoying then non-descript at all ;). Either way, it was because of you that I always had -50 or better svs. Always managed to nail that sleep eventually though, heh. Just glad I got to widdle you down finally. I was as surprised as you that the hunt could be called there. Where did you break character?
Boldereth Del`Acendur, Sylvan Captain.
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5083, RE: I like being annoying...
Posted by Mael on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
think when I asked ooc, what the ##### is going on. :P
But I must admit, that character truly had lack of roleplaying. Maybe because I lost skill since summer, or maybe because I didn't feel the character. I had fun, but not enough to stay in game. Scarab is a damn nice cabal, but only for people who don't have troubles with english :P
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5078, I got a lich quest in under 100 hours n/t
Posted by Cat on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
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5079, I doubt this was in the recent past (n/t)
Posted by Zulghinlour on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
n/t
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5076, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by Nydeikon on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Hrm..?
>Nexus: nice gang you have there. Where to IRC migrates next time? Try entropy. Should be fun.
What exactly does that mean? I certainly hope you don't mean to insinuate that Nexus players are IRCers, at least I'll personally say that I have absolutely nothing to do with IRC, I think it ruins the game and should be avoided at all costs.
Anyhow, well played character from what I saw, too bad everytime I would rack up a decent amount of stalks on you, Dullameh would pop up out of nowhere. *sigh*. Best of luck if you return, you seemed to be a good player.
That Whil guy.
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5075, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by Fristapholin on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Wow! I feel special now giving you one of your four Pk Deaths! Honestly though, you were a touch one, but after you slew me that time and took all my items except two or three pieaces, I was coming after you. I would spend time just teleporting around looking for you when you were in the realm. BTW, the fight where I slew you I had 37 hps left at the end of it. And yes, I am a one trick pony when it comes to necromancers cause usually they are flying and it is one of hte most effective spells I have especially for neutralizing your armies. Enjoy.
Fristapholin
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5073, *looks around for this IRC thing....*
Posted by Kaz on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I find that funny. You post on dio's what certain staves/wands do. You do nothing but spam c 'sleep' target with the cheapest targeting system known to man. Then you accuse us of being IRC. I say again...."You're strange."
Kaz.
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5074, RE: *looks around for this IRC thing....*
Posted by Mael on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'm driunk, so don't tkae this post too srious. Offer me a best way for ncero to fight the foes. What, sleep is 90% of succesful PK? Oh #####, I mustbe moron or s
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5072, conjurers v necros
Posted by Daurwyn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Although I don't believe conjurers to be overpowered because I know lots of ways to neutralise of kill them with several classes, they really do seem to own necros.
It's something I've noticed too. But I think if I played a necro again I might be able to beat conjurers too, using similar tactics to those most warrior specs could. I can't tell until I try it though.
Your tactics when you raided with a certain invoker (not Tilaen) were probably the best a necromancer has tried to date against me. Having played this class has shown me what I should have done with all the others though, Manarei's assassination of me being one example or how to get round a conjurer's strengths.
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5070, a couple comments
Posted by Scarabaeus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>The reason I deleted were not lack of the lich quest, but >impossibility of gain it, or so I understood from the >immteractions that I had. Resourcefullness... I see.
If you're referring to the conversation you had with Scarabaeus in-game, I'll remind you that there's no IC connection between your god and obtaining your Lichquest. When you sent me an e-mail about it (reassuring me that I didn't need to answer you, you were just letting me know you were concerned) I made a note of it so that who- ever developed the quest would be aware of your concern. Approaching me then, in game, annoyed me; persisting with questions about how you could gain the attention of the lichmakers after I gently pushed you in the "back off" direction only annoyed me further.
>Scarabaeus. Thank you. Sorry that I leave you this way, but >I don't really think you enjoyed me in the cabal. I believe >I did nothing against scarab phylosophy though... I learned >much of scarab, but still not much as I would like to.
It's unfortunate that between January and March I've been working roughly 12 hours a day and on weekends -- my time for CF has been non-existent. I point an accusatory finger at a poor economy and hope this won't be happening again.
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5071, RE: a couple comments
Posted by Mael on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
yo did damn nice. I'm surprised I could get into scarab; seems, you watched me often enough. Youre one of the best imms I ever interracted with, and I enjoyet it all. Doubt my next char will be scarab (at least, in the next year), but not too soon (again, it's my 22 birthday, and i'm drunk way too bad). Anyways, enjoyed, and I know my RP level - it's eqial to zero. So, cya, and sorry that I took your time.
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5069, RE: (DEL) Maelifarau the Spectre, Initiate of the Scarab
Posted by Dru on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>The reason of this... yes, I'm russian. I know other >russians, though I don't sit on IRC, nor reading their >super-uber-secret forums. But my link to Geramin were enough >it seems. I've no idea what Drucyrus said (if he did) about >me, but probably it took a part in it. Pity. >
One of the E-mails I sent to Andy:
Well Andy, I must say I am somewhat disappointed with your generic Immortal attitude. I thought you were more unique than that, that in retrospect, you might actually see that I did nothing wrong with Drucyrus.
a.. MULTICHARRING: You may play more than one character, BUT you may only have one logged in at a time, AND none of your characters will ever have knowledge that another of your characters ever exist in ANY way. YES, this does include children, siblings, spouses. Your characters CANNOT have ANY knowledge of another, and family relations by their very definition do.
Did not violate this.
Leaving equipment lying around for your other characters to pick up later also falls into this category (deleting and starting a new character with the same name is still a new character and can't benefit from knowledge/equipment you had before deleting).
Did not violate this.
You also may not locate objects for your other characters or recommend your other characters for things they could not possible know about (cabals, for instance).
Did not violate this. I did not RECOMMEND Sak for Scarab with Drucyrus. In fact they would never have had anything to do with each other if you did not tell me to speak to the Flame. I sent Drucyrus Sak's role in the form of a note. Then a few days later, I told you that I had been INFORMED of Sak's intent and that he might be worth further examination, inferring that I wanted YOU to examine him further, I wanted nothing more to do with him with Drucyrus. It was not an endorsement as you claim. I recommend you take another look at the note I sent you if you cannot recall it completely. Then when we were discussing applicants, I mentioned everyone whom I was aware of. I mentioned Sak in passing only because to ignore him would mean I was altering Drucyrus' role by purposely not mentioning an applicant which is something I do not do. Like I said, I do not let the OOC affect how I play in character.
Now, if you honestly think that I treated Sak any different than any other applicant with Drucyrus, then there is nothing else for me to say. However, I still insist that I had done nothing wrong with Drucyrus, i.e. not guilty. I do however accept the fact that I cheated with Sak by acquiring him from another and yes, he was rightfully denied, but Drucyrus should have been left out of it.
Geramin: heh i need a huge favor!
Me: Lol
Geramin: anyways there is a scarab aplicant who needs to talk to you and you are never on:P
Geramin: thats asihara you spoke to him in his childhopod already:)
Geramin: scarab sent him to you for your opinion treat him well?:)
Geramin: i will give you wands!
Geramin: lots of them!
Me: hehe, why's it so important for you?
Geramin: its his 5th necro who is trying to lich
Geramin: i didnt tell him that i know you but i want him to get in to scarab
Me: what level is he?
Geramin: all i need from you is to log in he will speak as soon as see sees you log out
Geramin: 45
Me: he's the one who tried to lich before but got one item wrong right?
Geramin: Yep
Geramin: you already spoke to him whenm he was like 20
Me: I remember
Me: ok, I'll talk to him,, but I ain't promising anything, if he's a retard, I'm gonna hammer him, if he knows his #####, then fine, I will be fair.
Geramin: i asm not asking anything only to talk
Some time later:
Me: ok, he just spoke to me
Me: this guys a foreigner isn't he?
Me: #####, I knew it, he can't speak for #####, scarabaeus is gonna eat him alive.
Geramin: he spoke to him already
Geramin: I know and scarabaeus said hedidn;t know what he was talking about
Me: Maelifarau says 'I am not wise, and this is what we have spoken about with Father.'
Geramin: heh he might be from overseas but hey he had 3 lich quests those are not just given out like that:P
Geramin: he can't speak well, Scar is bad for guys like that
Geramin: heh how is it?
Geramin: he fucked it up?
Me: kinda, he not knowing a lot, I'm trying to teach him.
(I do this with all applicants who need guidance, so I was being fair to him)
Geramin: heh cool he said he had a good role shrug maybe thats why scarab went easy on him
Me: about your buddy, he didn't do too well though, I had to teach him lots.
Me: I ain't promising anything, I ain't gonna trash him in the note, but I ain't gonna give him flying colors either.
Geramin: alright fair enough
Me: he's gonna have to do the rest on his own, and he's gotta work on his English. Scar is gonna eat him alive. Your buddy is gonna need luck
----So I wrote you (Scarabaeus) a neutral note concerning him (Maelifarau) trying to keep ooc from ic. I spoke to him because you asked me to, not because my friend wanted me to. I was fair about the whole thing cause I hate dishonesty.---
And this is what my "buddy" said to me when we had our falling out. He knew I hated cheaters and wanted Swist busted so he said this to twist the knife in my back:
Oh and last statement to piss the hell out of you
Swist came out a wionner from realms of dead
he transfered jeethus 1300 hp set to his new char deleted jeethu
and made some ##### up with *some guy* imms let him go
hahaha
how you feeling there?
I have more stuff but I'm not gonna send it. If you still think these are vague accusations, I'm not gonna waste my breath convincing you. This stuff affects you all now, I couldn't care less now since I am no longer part of CF.
And yes, by all means I am going to reveal all on the official forum. Many people are not going to like it but I would ask that no moderator remove it because it is only the truth and the truth shall set you free, so to speak.
Perhaps we shall speak again Andy, though I am doubtful. Good luck in all your endeavors and may you accomplish all you set out to do.
Farewell, Your Flame, Drucyrus (aka Strohm, Sakariaith)
I decided to tell Andy about this because I am pretty sure (from other sources) Geramin, who gave me the invoker, was also the one behind me getting found out and this was part of my coming totally clean. To give someone a "gift" and then rat him out on the "gift" because I got a troll's amulet from the mob is pretty low in my books.
What can we all learn from this? OOC ##### sucks and, if you or any IRC buddy has any conscience at all, someone will eventually come clean leading to a downfall. If everyone is equally and fully corrupt, then the IRC ring can go on indefinitely with no consequences. Sad but true. i.e. If you have any honesty in you at all, stay away from OOC ##### altogether because it will ##### you in the end. If you are an insecure person who likes to cheat to win at all costs at the expense of others, then by all means, OOC is the way to go.
I am not sure why Geramin got denied (though I am apathetic, I no longer care what happens here), but Arolin and others who say he was innocent are obviously friends of him. Yes, it is true that Geramin is an excellent explorer and he finds out the majority of things on his own (the right way), but he does have a lot of help from his friends as well. (I myself went to the silent tower with him before I even knew him OOC (ironically) and he showed me things legitimately.)
Regardless, Geramin has assumed several characters (the invoker he gave me), Merceial he kept himself, Muartharon (fire shaman scion) he also assumed but obviously he got unempowered for roleplay reasons. So never mind the huge passing of OOC things, he has still broken the rules numerous times in other ways. I imagine the biggest problem the Imms have is that others use him to leech info out of him via OOC means and he complies.
And Arolin, don't think you are innocent either. I know you converse with the Russian's intimately and whined about how they needed Strohm to kill Jezzan in Basilica on IRC. Don't you find having four heroes in three opposing cabals a conflict of interest? Did you even hero them all? I am doubtful because someone even pointed out that Crain was a retard when he was younger and then all of a sudden started pulling preps out of his ass like there was no tomorrow. I can't say you assumed any of them but I have my doubts that you heroed them all. If you legitimately played each character for 250 hours+ (i.e. 1000 hours) in less than a year, you might want to invest in other pursuits, you may need a break. I don't really care now anyway, this is all old news.
So, yes it may be true that numerous veterans are leaving CF (myself included) but I don't think this is bad for CF at all. Fresh blood brings a breath of fresh air into what is a stagnating game right now. When you can almost determine who is who in all their incarnations because you have interacted with them so many times in the past, something is wrong. I wish the newbies the best of luck and hope that their thirst for (essential) knowledge doesn't tarnish their experience in CF. There is such a thing as growing up too fast. Ah, the sentiment of newbiedom.
Drucyrus, the Onlooker.
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5061, Sorry about double post, stuff was left out for some reason.
Posted by Dru on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>The reason of this... yes, I'm russian. I know other >russians, though I don't sit on IRC, nor reading their >super-uber-secret forums. But my link to Geramin were enough >it seems. I've no idea what Drucyrus said (if he did) about >me, but probably it took a part in it. Pity. > >The reason of this... yes, I'm russian. I know other >russians, though I don't sit on IRC, nor reading their >super-uber-secret forums. But my link to Geramin were enough >it seems. I've no idea what Drucyrus said (if he did) about >me, but probably it took a part in it. Pity.
-I guess I owe you an answer Maelifarau. I know I would want one.-
One of the E-mails I sent to Andy:
Well Andy, I must say I am somewhat disappointed with your generic Immortal attitude. I thought you were more unique than that, that in retrospect, you might actually see that I did nothing wrong with Drucyrus.
a.. MULTICHARRING: You may play more than one character, BUT you may only have one logged in at a time, AND none of your characters will ever have knowledge that another of your characters ever exist in ANY way. YES, this does include children, siblings, spouses. Your characters CANNOT have ANY knowledge of another, and family relations by their very definition do.
Did not violate this.
Leaving equipment lying around for your other characters to pick up later also falls into this category (deleting and starting a new character with the same name is still a new character and can't benefit from knowledge/equipment you had before deleting).
Did not violate this.
You also may not locate objects for your other characters or recommend your other characters for things they could not possible know about (cabals, for instance).
Did not violate this. I did not RECOMMEND Sak for Scarab with Drucyrus. In fact they would never have had anything to do with each other if you did not tell me to speak to the Flame. I sent Drucyrus Sak's role in the form of a note. Then a few days later, I told you that I had been INFORMED of Sak's intent and that he might be worth further examination, inferring that I wanted YOU to examine him further, I wanted nothing more to do with him with Drucyrus. It was not an endorsement as you claim. I recommend you take another look at the note I sent you if you cannot recall it completely. Then when we were discussing applicants, I mentioned everyone whom I was aware of. I mentioned Sak in passing only because to ignore him would mean I was altering Drucyrus' role by purposely not mentioning an applicant which is something I do not do. Like I said, I do not let the OOC affect how I play in character.
Now, if you honestly think that I treated Sak any different than any other applicant with Drucyrus, then there is nothing else for me to say. However, I still insist that I had done nothing wrong with Drucyrus, i.e. not guilty. I do however accept the fact that I cheated with Sak by acquiring him from another and yes, he was rightfully denied, but Drucyrus should have been left out of it.
-Andy has made it clear that I would use info discussed with with Dru for Sak's benefit. That's fine, I don't blame him (though I was never given a chance to see if I would or not and, for the record, I honestly had no intention of this and we never discussed it for for more than one sentence besides). I don't wish to go down this road all over again, though I am still uncertain where exactly I crossed the line with Dru. Maybe someone can give me a civil response?-
-incidently, Geramin="Igor"-
Geramin: heh i need a huge favor!
Me: Lol
Geramin: anyways there is a scarab aplicant who needs to talk to you and you are never on:P
Geramin: thats asihara you spoke to him in his childhopod already:)
Geramin: scarab sent him to you for your opinion treat him well?:)
Geramin: i will give you wands!
Geramin: lots of them!
Me: hehe, why's it so important for you?
Geramin: its his 5th necro who is trying to lich
Geramin: i didnt tell him that i know you but i want him to get in to scarab
Me: what level is he?
Geramin: all i need from you is to log in he will speak as soon as see sees you log out
Geramin: 45
Me: he's the one who tried to lich before but got one item wrong right?
Geramin: Yep
Geramin: you already spoke to him whenm he was like 20
Me: I remember
Me: ok, I'll talk to him,, but I ain't promising anything, if he's a retard, I'm gonna hammer him, if he knows his #####, then fine, I will be fair.
Geramin: i asm not asking anything only to talk
Some time later:
Me: ok, he just spoke to me
Me: this guys a foreigner isn't he?
Me: #####, I knew it, he can't speak for #####, scarabaeus is gonna eat him alive.
Geramin: he spoke to him already
Geramin: I know and scarabaeus said hedidn;t know what he was talking about
Me: Maelifarau says 'I am not wise, and this is what we have spoken about with Father.'
Geramin: heh he might be from overseas but hey he had 3 lich quests those are not just given out like that:P
Geramin: he can't speak well, Scar is bad for guys like that
Geramin: heh how is it?
Geramin: he fucked it up?
Me: kinda, he not knowing a lot, I'm trying to teach him.
(I do this with all applicants who need guidance, so I was being fair to him)
Geramin: heh cool he said he had a good role shrug maybe thats why scarab went easy on him
Me: about your buddy, he didn't do too well though, I had to teach him lots.
Me: I ain't promising anything, I ain't gonna trash him in the note, but I ain't gonna give him flying colors either.
Geramin: alright fair enough
Me: he's gonna have to do the rest on his own, and he's gotta work on his English. Scar is gonna eat him alive. Your buddy is gonna need luck
----So I wrote you (Scarabaeus) a neutral note concerning him (Maelifarau) trying to keep ooc from ic. I spoke to him because you asked me to, not because my friend wanted me to. I was fair about the whole thing cause I hate dishonesty.---
-And this is true Maelifarau. I kept an unbiased opinion of you and tried to help you as I would any applicant, because I knew you needed a bit of direction with the cult. I had no problems there.(I did find it hard to get the meaning of what you were saying at times but I kinda got used to it.) Now, I am aware you have had several lich quests in the past and you did use friends to try and complete them, even let some of them hold some items for you so you would not lose them. So, while it may be true you no longer do the IRC thing much anymore, you certainly did in the past and undoubtedly learned lots from it and had extensive help. Maybe you had no idea Geramin (Mesnek) knew me this time. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and treated you absolutely fairly as I would anyone. All I told Andy in a previous E-mail was to watch you to make sure everything was straight up since you know I hate cheaters and Andy said he would not hold anything against you because of this. Since they were apparently about to give you your quest, I can only assume that this had no deleterious affects on you at all.-
And this is what my "buddy" said to me when we had our falling out. He knew I hated cheaters and wanted Swist busted so he said this to twist the knife in my back:
Oh and last statement to piss the hell out of you
Swist came out a wionner from realms of dead
he transfered jeethus 1300 hp set to his new char deleted jeethu
and made some ##### up with *some guy* imms let him go
hahaha
how you feeling there?
I have more stuff but I'm not gonna send it. If you still think these are vague accusations, I'm not gonna waste my breath convincing you. This stuff affects you all now, I couldn't care less now since I am no longer part of CF.
And yes, by all means I am going to reveal all on the official forum. Many people are not going to like it but I would ask that no moderator remove it because it is only the truth and the truth shall set you free, so to speak.
-I decided not to do this and simply posted my farewell as you saw but even that was quickly removed. Then, later, I found out that I was ratted out and decided to let everything be know-
Perhaps we shall speak again Andy, though I am doubtful. Good luck in all your endeavors and may you accomplish all you set out to do.
Farewell, Your Flame, Drucyrus (aka Strohm, Sakariaith)
-So, maybe you are a victim of the Geramin curse as was I. I was trying to get away from the IRC thing and was there only briefly but it was enough to do me in apparently. My five hours on IRC came back to haunt me months later *sigh*. Maybe you were trying to do the same thing as I. I don't know. You may be full of ##### and still a big part of it for all I know. Doesn't matter much to me now and I did give you the benefit of the doubt in how I treated you regardless.
I decided to tell Andy about this because I am pretty sure (from other sources) Geramin, who gave me the invoker, was also the one behind me getting found out and this was part of my coming totally clean. To give someone a "gift" and then rat him out on the "gift" because I got a troll's amulet from the mob is pretty low in my books.
What can we all learn from this? OOC ##### sucks and, if you or any IRC buddy has any conscience at all, someone will eventually come clean leading to a downfall. If everyone is equally and fully corrupt, then the IRC ring can go on indefinitely with no consequences. Sad but true. i.e. If you have any honesty in you at all, stay away from OOC ##### altogether because it will ##### you in the end. If you are an insecure person who likes to cheat to win at all costs at the expense of others, then by all means, OOC is the way to go.
I am not sure why Geramin got denied (though I am apathetic, I no longer care what happens here), but Arolin and others who say he was innocent are obviously friends of him. Yes, it is true that Geramin is an excellent explorer and he finds out the majority of things on his own (the right way), but he does have a lot of help from his friends as well. (I myself went to the silent tower with him before I even knew him OOC (ironically) and he showed me things legitimately.)
Regardless, Geramin has assumed several characters (the invoker he gave me), Merceial he kept himself, Muartharon (fire shaman scion) he also assumed but obviously he got unempowered for roleplay reasons. So never mind the huge passing of OOC things, he has still broken the rules numerous times in other ways. I imagine the biggest problem the Imms have is that others use him to leech info out of him via OOC means and he complies.
And Arolin, don't think you are innocent either. I know you converse with the Russian's intimately and whined about how they needed Strohm to kill Jezzan in Basilica on IRC. Don't you find having four heroes in three opposing cabals a conflict of interest? Did you even hero them all? I am doubtful because someone even pointed out that Crain was a retard when he was younger and then all of a sudden started pulling preps out of his ass like there was no tomorrow. I can't say you assumed any of them but I have my doubts that you heroed them all. If you legitimately played each character for 250 hours+ (i.e. 1000 hours) in less than a year, you might want to invest in other pursuits, you may need a break. I don't really care now anyway, this is all old news.
So, yes it may be true that numerous veterans are leaving CF (myself included) but I don't think this is bad for CF at all. Fresh blood brings a breath of fresh air into what is a stagnating game right now. When you can almost determine who is who in all their incarnations because you have interacted with them so many times in the past, something is wrong. I wish the newbies the best of luck and hope that their thirst for (essential) knowledge doesn't tarnish their experience in CF. There is such a thing as growing up too fast. Ah, the sentiment of newbiedom.
Drucyrus, the Onlooker.
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5068, RE: Sorry about double post, stuff was left out for some reason.
Posted by ORB on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I wasn't suprised at all when Geramin got busted. I interacted with him some as Thrakizod and he absolutely reeked of OOC/IRC/IM #####. He acted like a newbie yet seemed to know the locations of most of the preps in the game. He also pulled a ton of other shady little things that I won't go into here. That's why I have to laugh when people come to his defense because it makes it clear who his OOC buddies are. So what if the Silent tower offense wasn't that bad, he had it coming from two dozen other shady things.
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5062, RE: Sorry about double post, stuff was left out for some reason.
Posted by Mael on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>-incidently, Geramin="Igor"- > >Geramin: heh i need a huge favor! > >Me: Lol > >Geramin: anyways there is a scarab aplicant who needs to >talk to you and you are >never on:P > >Geramin: thats asihara you spoke to him in his childhopod >already:)
fucker ;) Asihara is a shame in the history of CF, and been made to anger some IRC'sts. More stupid char/role BEHIND the char I never played. Answering to myself were fun. ;P
>Me: what level is he? > >Geramin: all i need from you is to log in he will speak as >soon as see sees you log >out > >Geramin: 45
This is where I revealed myself - I couldn't find you in game for a long while. Big mistake, beginning of ruinning my char.
> >Me: he's the one who tried to lich before but got one item >wrong right? > >Geramin: Yep
Nop.
>Me: kinda, he not knowing a lot, I'm trying to teach him.
Yes, you taught me a lot. Things, that you taught me, couldn't be find ANYWHERE in game, this is must be the reason why there are so few scarabites about. In Sacraa or help scarabcabal only basical info. I would add tips and some thoughts of scarab to my page (which I bored to update since last year), but I doubt Scarab or Cyradia would be happy of this. :P So I won't.
>and you did use friends to try and complete them, even let >some of them hold some items for you so you would not lose >them. So, while it may be true you no longer do the IRC
I've been sitting on the IRC only when I had Asihara. After that, I spent somethnig like a week on IRC, then I pissed of "Igor" and he baned me from IRC. Then we didn't interract for something like year. No one OOC players did help me with the lichquests; I took all my items by myself AND IC. I have no reason to lie, since I left CF and I don't care much for my ego anymore.
>breath convincing you. This stuff affects you all now, I >couldn't care less now since I am no longer part of CF.
don't bother. I feel dirty now because all that ##### which I became part of, just because I knew Homous OOC. Will I reveal my character anymore? Hell no. I'll better delete ICQ or change UIN, sohuld I wish to play CF again.
>Maybe you were trying to do the same thing as I. I don't
I did the same thnig, but my presence on the IRC few years ago caught me. Perhaps I deserve this, despite that I've been on IRC not to cheat, but talk to the friends about other things (mostly).
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5063, You seem like a decent guy...
Posted by Drucyrus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Kinda shitty we got caught up in that web the way we did. In retrospect, if what you say is true, then I am glad I could point you in the right direction concerning the cult. Seems we both got caught up in this stuff innocently enough. Good luck on your return.
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5064, Innocently enough?
Posted by Uli on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Seems we both got caught up in this stuff innocently enough.
Of course, you can say that it was Scarab who was guilty of you having to interview your own char. In fact, you wrote it publicly. But what did you expect trying to join the cabal when being the only mortal leader of it with your other char?
Of course, asking ooc friends for interview is much more a violation of the rules than interviewing your own char. In fact, interviewing your own char, especially via notes, is absolutely fine. Especially if you are doing it.
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5065, RE: Innocently enough?
Posted by No on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>In fact, interviewing >your own char, especially via >notes, is absolutely fine.
What part of none of your characters will ever have knowledge that another of your characters ever exist in ANY way don't you understand?
How can you send a note to someone you don't know exists?
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5066, Um...
Posted by Dallevian on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
What part of sarcasm evaded your quick wit?
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5067, RE: Um...
Posted by No on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>What part of sarcasm evaded your quick wit?
The part where people are actually cheating.
(As opposed to sarcastically pretending to cheat.)
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5060, Dam this reply is laughing at you.
Posted by Marlek on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
From your post on this forum it seems that you are as arogant and ignorant in real life as you were in game. Comments like you full looted ragers cause they were powerfull... hahahaha Necros wipe the floor with ragers, anything with summon screws over a berserker, defenders are next to useless, and scouts are far from a threat to a army of zombies.
Your comments about the immortals taking time for lichquest I think is way wrong. My necro that I leveled to spectre in about 55-60 hours actually rped the study of liching, wrote a bunch in role about it, and within about 20-30 hours had a quest. Your rping was inconsistant and one or two times when I rped with you with different characters I noticed large gaps of understanding.
I still think its funny how you almost died to me when I was near nakid, called for backup. Seems you never fought anyone who was really tough or who had any skill, 150 hours of trying to lich and getting nowhere. Perhaps you should have looked at yourself irl and in game to discover why. Cockyness ignorance arrogance , not good traits to hold for claims to fame.
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