Don't know what do begin with. I bet a lot of you wonder why I was demoted I am wonder about it by myself. The only who can answer this questions is a Grurk but I don't think he is the kind to do so. :( I can only explain how I see it but without comments of Grurk they cost nothing so let's see the history from my view:

ejega tells you: He asked me about Oath and some moments later looted mine things from pit.

repl I don't care about your things but if you wish them order Kruo to give you all you want in case he disobey let me know

**couple moments

ejega tells you: He disobey

sect: a lot of rp and anatheming Kruo because he doesn't follow the order of elder blade and lie to me

Kruo tells you: a lot of crying about WHY I was anathemed

I am in group with Sdradiga

Calling Ejega to move to inn and speak with Kruo because he telling that he hasn't heard any questions of Ejega and mine, aka he was lost link or something

we move from Palace under centurions Ejega was killed by 3 outlanders

Sect Father of Anger: It's pathething and weak
Sect Father of Anger: don't you find it War Master
sect: Yes I do.

going to anathema ejega but she deleted

came to inn and begin speak with Kruo what the hell was between him and ejega

by group tell asking Sdradiga what would you do in this case on my place.

That was the most interesting part because day before by accident I heard part of talk between Zheairth and Sdradiga where Sdradiga shows that she wish my place. So I was going to demote him if he answers anything but I am not war master and cann't give you answer here.

Sdradiga began telling things that was not answer to my question, I did couple comments to hurry up his answer on my question but a moment later I was demoted and Sdradiga promoted to war master and I deleted

Don't know may be I miss something or telling #### but Grurk can you be that kind to explain me why?? WHY??? I have a feeling like that it's just cause but not the real reason. please tell me WHY??

Some good bye may be I won't remember all of you but if you write I will replay for sure.

EMPIRE:

Khasotholas - one of the best imms I've ever talk but you manner of asking questions in affirmative form always place me in deadlock. This day I realised how to improve my role and roleplay but.. :(( Thank you for all talks we had or talks I was witness.

Grurk - don't know what to tell you, just explain me if you can because I really don't understand why didn't you wait till I get aswer from Sdradiga.

Nabburak Emperor - the best antipal I saw by my own eyes, very strong, very expirience, but I belive a bit too kind as Emperor. Be EVIL! :)

Zheairth - one more great shaman of Empire, High Priestess, hated you in char but liked you out of it. Strong, evil, with a very very long tongue. Good pkiller as well as rplayer was going to have a talk with you about religion of Khasotholas and it way in Empire but bah..

Makholvek - Dread Lord. KEEP IT COME AND BE THE LICH AND Emperor. I think one of the best roleplayer for curriend moment in Empire.

Asfas - ohh my bloody boddy, you show some disrespect to me as War Master and sometimes did really ####ty things in pk, but very good healer, with good rp and ya maggot stealed my pk frags :))) I hope you liked some explore area I led you in and led you out :))

Sdradiga - good bard all around. I think you will be better war master when I was. Damn why I didn't have time to demote you? :)

Kresh - one more good necromancer, may be Dread lord in future?:) I belive you be if not delete before.

Phyllax - solid blade, that was so funny when you asked me about becoming the elite!! because you did it right when I was going to promote you but well I decided to wait and see what you can. Good work and kick Sdradiga from his place :))

Skolgrar - MY War Master. Where did you gone? why? no any word about you?! That is really sad because it was great time when I was under your command. You make me wish to try fire giant sword spec

Vinson - how I can forgot you. As I already told somewhere. I have never saw or travel with such great healer who always do things and right in time you need it most of well. Tried to play healer after you, but I am not that good in it as you are.

Uou - past dread Lord. That was so sad to see how much you die :((

OUTLANDERS:

Only three names come to my mind right now:

Carijisdun - when we was on middle levels you was a toy for Tirnath hehe but one time I died because of my stupid but when you became leader we have meet only once and you beat my ass because I was out of preps but from other side I don't think preps would aid me much.

Aesrira - if you just knew how I damn hated to run by eastern road when I knew you are around :))) but at least got you with Asfas.

Drahke - I knew you mostly by my other characters but you always was really weak and always run or some to gang me naked right after death from hands of aesrira with two or three friends bah.

VILLAGE:

Tuggluk - the best rager! :) I was afraid to fight with you alone don't know why.. I had aura, shield, stone skin, and haste.. And I so hated when you broke my beloved saber. You always did it right a moment after I get it. And it's really hard to get. But thank you, you showed what the word rager (villager) means in a real. And about time I was sad about your looting. The main thing that make me sad I asked everyone not to loot you :( but someone looted and I didn't know who. Tirnath almost never loot only in case if ooc I count a person as real #### :)) like Kjelror

Kjelror - I saw log where you escaped from trap with help of Llyria and she put you in healing sleep that is really SICK. Didn't see anything good from you. I hope you will be throwed out of village soon.

Ahh rager of Arrazn - Alidrilil man it was nice char but when we will go and drink some beer or coffe and talk about our next characters? :)))) CF BE AWARE OF TWO PLAYER WHO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO SPEAK ON ENGLISH :)

Gerynlast - nothing good I can tell about you, sorry man :)) but I was laugh a lot when I offhand disarmed your horn of Tritons :)

FORTRESS:

Martainn - good assassin but I was not afraid of you ;) only when I was little you beat my ass with your maran's weapon. And you almost never come alone when I grow up :( but still good assassin. And I am damn glad that got my boots of speed and blademaster gloves from you in same day I lost them. :) or it was my other character before the Tirnath? :)

Ginharq - hehe ;) pain in my ass, afraid you a lot ;)) because I was not able to do a thing alone agains you. You were blocking like mad my swords and flail. First time I saw how deadly may be transmuter. Well done.

Nimelerion - I am really sad that couldn't speak with you normaly in time we did it, because I was in explore area and was close to death. Also I hated to kill you both in char and ooc :(( I was really sorry for each time I killed you. But you continie to come. Well played and I still remember your word.. like in other case we could sit at one table at inn and drink and speak as friends, Tirnath really wished it ;) (Don't tell me it suck as rp :)) I know it by myself.)

Healers of fortress - please learn how to play them :)

Halhaer - a bloody friend of Nimelerion I can tell you only the same as I told to Nimelerion. I think I never can die that a lot and not to delete. WELL DONE BOTH OF YOU!

SCIONS:

That was so sweet to gang you with Asfas :)!!! die all in pain.

Gakken - damn I wished to fight with you... We have almost the same sets of eq and preps it would be interesting who win this fight but ofcourse you had more chances because I am not able to cover my vuln.

Judaao - to answer your question: no gay marriege not allowed in Empire but if you take oath we will change this .. all for you my sweet :)))))))))


I think that's all I can remember right now. I hope to write something more in future.

Imms thank you for game you do
Players thank you for game you do :)




p.s. Teurilla was my character as well, call me cheater :) made it to help in growing little imperials who was sit on middle levels and deleted before they come to hero ranks, was glad to travel with all of you.

I actually cheered you for anathemaing the young warrior in question.

Then I sat in disbelief as you:
1. Agreed to even meet with him.
2. Asked Sgradiga what he would do.

Sorry, but the Blade Sect is Might of the Empire. You are the War
Master. If you anathema someone, the only thing you should be wanting
to see from them is a corpse, or hear from them are the screams
of their dying.

You hardly displayed the bearing of the Mighty War Master by asking
your subordinate what you should do in that situation. I found it
weak.

So, I demoted you.

G.

n/t

Well played there..almost got me a few times yourself with Asfas ;) And Teurilla is very different from Tirnath! Was a pain in the ass never-growing up healer :) Well done on both! And good luck with your next, hope to meet him/her!

Was anathemaed for the slightest incident where ejega lied about what happened as well. I did not whine, my char was in a different mood when anathemaed, especcially when he slew the oath who was ordered to slay him. Perhaps it was how funny i thought it was to take the oath, go rank with another oath and transmuter, and become anathema in the matter of 12 minutes. I had two others with me who could have verified I done nothing wrong in the period. I didnt whine. I played it out, spoke with tirnath, waited on him, waited on him. He came to the inn with sdradiga. Was unsure of what to do and seemed to be having sdradiga help him with the proceddings. I rather not comment from here. Thank you imms. Nice stint as the warmaster Tirnath, Hoped you learned some leassons. Think 'dark side', not 'hogans heroes' when playing empire. 'Another example of a human in a duergar mask.

####.
You have looted Ejega but a moment before it you asked her(him?) about Oath. After you were oathed, Ejega ORDERED you to return couple things that belong you her. And you disobey and tried to lie to you War Master that's why you were anathemed. I came (Sdradiga was with me because I was not sure you won't call Kjelror or who of flurry ragers were there) because of two reasons:

1. You throwed me some tells like: "I didn't hear it" and so one, like if you were link dead.
2. Because Ejega displasured me and deleted right before a moment I anathema her.

After I came there I thought hmm it's nice to use that opportunity to demote Sdradiga who as I knew already going to throw me out of my sit. But I was demoted before I demoted Sdradiga.

Anyway I was not going to Oath you. The only thing that lead me to speak with you were deletation of Ejega. May be you would get the time to prove you worth but...

I hope you char still would be around when I do something you :)))

I don't know the reasons you were oathed again but I belive they sick.

A shame you deleted, you were a powerhouse. Duergar sword spec, flurry 100, high damroll, perma haste, *shiver*. More on the topic once I delete. See you on the fields.

Asfas - ohh my bloody boddy, you show some disrespect to me as War Master and sometimes did really ####ty things in pk, but very good healer, with good rp and ya maggot stealed my pk frags :))) I hope you liked some explore area I led you in and led you out :))


Oh, well. After all I've done to you... Truely I made mistakes in the beginning. Sometimes they were fatal.. But if Asfas wasnt that patient, planning and looking deeper into the matters, you could have quite a hard time with all your shouting and ordering to me. Asfas treated you like a very, very expensive tool. Tool developed and constructed with own hands and thus even more effective. Out of char, I thought of you as about my Granaak:) And thus a loss is great as well. Still I hope I wont end up as fast as Rastraal:)
See you on the fields.

Yeah that was great when you followed all my order but in some of mements you send me far far away with my order :))) that was funny to the end of my playing you came to deep understanding what's the healer for. I do not remember any mistake you did(Have you done any?! :))). Once again well done.

Bah. You was a good war master, and I remember the time when I was young and you was preparing to take this position. But really, trust me, I know well, if you're a Sect leader, don't show others that you're not sure in your actions, as you did when anathemathed your oath, and then starting to bla bla bla. So you were demoted. That happened. Sad. Empire lost a hand. Sad, that Teurilla is gone too.


Well, I didn't see you much, but I felt you're a kind that don't speak much, but do great. Good luck with you next. Hope, it will be an Imperial again, but after you had a Divine and a War master... what else can call you to us? :)

I think I have done with Empire for some time.

Good luck to you Gvan and..
see you on fields :)

Thank you for the compliment I try. Liching is a process
patience is a virtue. Everyone keeps asking me have you quaffed
the potion yet people i've never seen like lowbies. I'm like
I'd either be a Spirit or a Lich if i had wouldn't I? But well
done in general thanks for being my meat shield :p. Had a strong
arm on ya. See ya in the fields.
Makholvek

*Take this advice with a grain of salt, I haven't played an empirial since my high-priest back before the first empire fell*


But....I think I can see where Grurk was coming from, although I think he might have actually been quite easy on you, speaking IC'ly.

If I were an evil god of the blades, and I watched my warmaster seemingly equivocate over his own actions (You anathed the guy...then you have conversations with him instead of ordering his death).....then you top that equivocation by asking a subordinate his opinion on your own ruling.

Yeah, If I were that god, I might have done worse to you than demote you. A war master asking a subordinate his opinion before coming to a judgement? That just reeks of weekness.


now, True, you had alterior motives for asking that question, but just listening to you, I doubt that was obvious, and the fact that you asked a subordinate for his opinion infront of others....and an Anathema at that.

I don't know about the other guy getting promoted in your place...


If I were in your place, I would have calmly explained in a note to grurk what I was planning on doing with that question, then explained to him that I will show him that I deserve the warmaster slot, then killed the warmaster that usurped me.


In all, I'd have looked at the demotion as a role-play opportunity to help flesh out my role and the political maneuverings within the Empire. But I can't say I don't understand the deletion, heck, I've deleted leader characters for less reason in the past (that's a whole other post, however).

>But....I think I can see where Grurk was coming from, although
>I think he might have actually been quite easy on you,
>speaking IC'ly.

>If I were an evil god of the blades, and I watched my
>warmaster seemingly equivocate over his own actions (You
>anathed the guy...then you have conversations with him instead
>of ordering his death).....then you top that equivocation by
>asking a subordinate his opinion on your own ruling.

Yes it was looking really bad but still I think I could got some
more time to see what for I asked this questions

>Yeah, If I were that god, I might have done worse to you than
>demote you. A war master asking a subordinate his opinion
>before coming to a judgement? That just reeks of weekness.

Yep

>now, True, you had alterior motives for asking that question,
>but just listening to you, I doubt that was obvious, and the
>fact that you asked a subordinate for his opinion infront of
>others....and an Anathema at that.

I was asked Sdradiga by group tell so noone could hear it but Grurk

>If I were in your place, I would have calmly explained in a
>note to grurk what I was planning on doing with that question,
>then explained to him that I will show him that I deserve the
>warmaster slot, then killed the warmaster that usurped me.

That won't lead me to anything but Anathema. I am not telling that killing of bard with imperial defence is not an easy thing to do.

Thank you for your opinion I came to the same ideas but still waiting for answer of Grurk

>>Yes it was looking really bad but still I think I could got some
more time to see what for I asked this questions

Once they are anathema the only thing they should be providing the empire is a corpse, not answers. The time for asking questions was before you made him anathema, not after.

n/t

- Khasotholas - one of the best imms I've ever talk but you manner of asking questions in affirmative form always place me in deadlock. This day I realised how to improve my role and roleplay but.. ( Thank you for all talks we had or talks I was witness.

Thank you for the compliments, I liked your character a good bit. You had guts, and made a good War Master. As for the demotion, I've been on vacation, so had no clue! As far as asking questions in the affirmative... I always wondered how many people noticed that... glad you did... it's intentional.

Good job,

Khas

Well I'm not on the list, or have a reason to be...But Grurk asked me to post and tell you that he's having some temporary problems posting but he will post his good-byes as soon as things get worked out.

I really thought there was nothing bad about our rp talking.
You were trying to offer the oath and tell the benefits of the empire and why it was the choice to make, and I was doing the same thing about the light. Thought it was pretty good conversations.
Didn't realize you were off in a difficult place, that explains the long time betwen answers. :) I just assumed someone else was raiding/retrieving.

Good character from what I interacted with.
good luck with your next.

Well, what can I say. Very solid and deadly character who tend to always steal my kills :P Excelent PK skills and good roleplay made you really respected by some folk and frightening for the rest. I was always trusting you even when we had some discords and troubles between us. You seemed to really care for all of your young Blades trying to make your Sect stronger (pretty successful, indeed), but also was a bit too soft on my taste with some of them. Your deletion is a serious mishap for Empire and flustration for myself. And what did you say about Village? Arh, betrayer! ;)

Take a break for a while and good luck with something even better you will come back with.