Wed Aug 11 22:07:46 2004

At 3 o'clock AM, Day of the Bull, 15th of the Month of the Dragon

on the Theran calendar Jugorath perished, never to return.

Race:	duergar
Class:	warrior
Level:	51
Alignment:	Evil
Ethos:	Chaotic
Cabal:	None, None
Age:	154
Hours:	196

Despite the few Imms that probably saw little of your actions, you were well skilled and deadly. One needs only look at your PK ratio. I can attest to seeing many of your fights which werent in gangs..You also helped my shifter rank a bit, with just the two of us...thanks for that.

Pity their is jealousy when one looks upon someone that puts out such good numbers......hence all the ganging whines.

CYa

I never saw the character, so I have nothing to whine about, but when imm comments both note that someone is a fairweather player and "the most gang happy player they've ever seen" plus that "most of their kills are gangs (imms can see this stat if I'm not mistaken), it sounds like fact, not jealousy.

Quite how you figure pk ratio means they were good in light of the above I'm a bit baffled. They might have been good, but pk ratio means nothing if you fair-weather log and gang to get yourself your sweet set.

I had the same impression Arvam (and others who approached me, but didn't history) did, so I went to the logs and other data to confirm what I thought I was seeing.

Turns out it was far worse than I thought, and his title was adjusted to reflect the reputation he built. If he was trying to roleplay someone with that reputation (which is a valid angle for a duergar, though one that will likely earn you a lot of scorn), that's fine, which is why no penalty was assessed at that time.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

I agree with the gank only RP for a duergar. I do not agree with the fair weather player part. I think there should be a far harsher penalty for people who log on their characters when their cabals are strong. Jugorath just made me sick to the stomach. In the beginning of his years, it was always him, (*an active character*), and Yveer. Then he joined the Scions and it was only him on when the Scions were strong.

When Zavin and Kungkruk deleted, for about two weeks Scion was very weak. Where was Jugorath? My money, playing his alt/main.

Good thing I'm not an IMM, there definitely would have been some tampering with his specs and stripping of those swordmaster's gauntlets.

Good thing I'm not an IMM, there definitely would have been some tampering with his specs and stripping of those swordmaster's gauntlets.

We don't silently tamper over a rules issue. If there's a problem (and Jugorath had certain groupmates forbidden to him because of a permagrouping problem), we handle it directly.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

I once had skills removed without any notice or anything, and for a long time I thought my character was bugged. I prayed about it a lot, and finally someone told me why it had been done. Sure would have been nice to know that before all the praying.

I'd hardly call "my warcry completely stops working" 'silent'. I'm saying we're not going to screw around in a way that you wouldn't notice.

From the helpfile:
A warcry should not be chosen lightly, for those who shout uninspiring or inappropriate words have been known to lose the beneficial effects that the warcry might bring.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

nt

I personally saw him kill alot solo. Even if he did gang alot....100 kills with majority of them being in gangs as you said, is impressive. Bigger the gangs...less kills.

Im only stating what Ive seen. Maybe the IMMs in question play diferent times and have seen the other side of the char.

I should rephrase then....

From my own perspective...well done.

SHeesh

I fought him a fair bit as Cele, and not once would he hang in for even the medium haul in a fight, let alone the long haul, unless he had 1 or 2 people with him. Even in many of those fights he would haul ass long before he was very hurt. If he was alone and saw me, he'd vanish. No balls at all.

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If you want to make an accusation that a player cheated, email the imms. If you have no proof and you are just pointing fingers, don't use our forums.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com