Mon Sep 3 17:40:24 2001


7 o''clock PM, Day of Thunder, 31st of the Month of the Frost Giant on the Theran calendar Gabinetto perished, never to return.

Race:	human
Class:	transmuter
Level:	51
Alignment:	Neutral
Ethos:	Neutral
Cabal:	None, None
Age:	47
Hours:	213
PK Ratio:	22% (closer to 100% is better)

Man I wish you had stuck around and listened to me when I told you not to listen to the father of lies. We had a load of fun in the fortress, and when you left, it just didn't feel right. Thanks for the great times, you are such a putz ;P.

Braiden

P.S. As I recall, it was braiden 2, panther,jaguar 0

Bah, yer daft! Only times I fled was to keep you from dying Old Man. *grin* Yeah, we did have a blast. I miss going on trips with you and thinking to myself "Lets see how we can get ourselves all killed today." Famous last words "No I don't think that bar full of soldiers would assist each other." *snort*

In the spirit of "let's prevent your future characters from
going down the crapper like this one", I'm going to throw out
a little advice; do with it what you will.

(1) If you're going to try selling your soul, changing alignment,
forsaking who you once were, etc -- just do it. This character
was so directionless and misguided post-change that once you
became neutral pretty much no immortal out there wanted
anything to do with you.

(2) Sending me a long, whiny email about how much you were
getting your ass kicked was about the worst possible thing you
could have done. If you're in some really tough IC situation,
DEAL WITH IT IN CHARACTER. If you're having a nervous breakdown
because life for your character is suddenly unbearable then
EXPRESS IT THROUGH THE CHARACTER. Sending an OOC note to an
immortal asking for some IC escape-hatch from your gaming woes
does zero for character development and is basically like
asking the Wizard of Oz if you can come behind the curtain for
a moment because the big scary head is bothering you.

(3) Don't blame your failures on someone else.


Judging by what I heard about your initial tantrum of a response,
I have no idea if this will get through to you or not. Many
characters have made similar mistakes and flailed around in
deep water and drowned because they couldn't just pick a
direction and swim (eg. Sorn). You CAN be successful when an
immortal throws a wrench in the works by either going with it
(eg. Minalcar, Amberlea) or rejecting it (eg. Zorszaul, Balrahd).

(1) If you're going to try selling your soul, changing alignment,
forsaking who you once were, etc -- just do it. This character
was so directionless and misguided post-change that once you
became neutral pretty much no immortal out there wanted
anything to do with you.

That was part of the point of my initial post. You spent time goading Gab into a direction you wanted him to go in, I was thinking "Ok, not what I had planned but not completely opposite either, lets see where this goes". I was expecting a little more direction from you than what amounted to "Go kill people". Admittedly this is my fault for not having a firmer grasp on just where this was going to head, I've never blamed anyone for how Gab turned out, and I certainly don't characterise this as a "failed character" since I did have a lot of fun with him. The end was not what I had hoped for, but it wasn't the worst either by far.



(2) Sending me a long, whiny email about how much you were
getting your ass kicked was about the worst possible thing you
could have done. If you're in some really tough IC situation,
DEAL WITH IT IN CHARACTER. If you're having a nervous breakdown
because life for your character is suddenly unbearable then
EXPRESS IT THROUGH THE CHARACTER. Sending an OOC note to an
immortal asking for some IC escape-hatch from your gaming woes
does zero for character development and is basically like
asking the Wizard of Oz if you can come behind the curtain for
a moment because the big scary head is bothering you.

I wasn't asking for an escape hatch, I was asking for advice on finding a direction. *shrug* Again, my mistake for not having a more set direction in mind., Again, not blaming this on anyone but myself.



(3) Don't blame your failures on someone else.

I'm not, and I don't consider this character a failure. Sorry if you do.


Judging by what I heard about your initial tantrum of a response,
I have no idea if this will get through to you or not. Many
characters have made similar mistakes and flailed around in
deep water and drowned because they couldn't just pick a
direction and swim (eg. Sorn). You CAN be successful when an
immortal throws a wrench in the works by either going with it
(eg. Minalcar, Amberlea) or rejecting it (eg. Zorszaul, Balrahd).

This, more than anything else, characterizes to me, one of the biggest problems certain IMM's on CF have. Any opinion that is in any way critical of them, or any aspect of the game, is considered a "tantrum" and discounted. The CF players in general are a pretty rough crowd, forum wise. The same post that I made here was made on Dio's, the only changes being a few typos I made, and changing my bit about Szchada, after seeing his reply and understanding his point a little better. The utter lack of even a single flame on my post tells me that it couldn't have been TOO much of a tantrum, or someone would have called me on it by now. Again, this is from a player perspective. Now, if we have the same post being viewed differently by two groups of people, that tells me we're seeing things from two different perspectives. Of course my perspective on this is "yes, I made some errors, I can do better next time". All too often I find the immortal perspective to be "I can do no wrong, for I am a Carrion Fields immortal and this means I am infallable, and noone should tell me otherwise".

Please do not use our forums to flame individuals. If you wish to rework the text you posted, I have a copy of it, and you can contact me by email for it.

From the pen of:
valguarnera@carrionfields.com">Valguarnera Trisseptia

Sorry if you feel honest opinions are flaming people. None of what I said was a rant, I gave my specific reasons for everything I said, and was pretty fair if I do say so myself. I've seen criticism posted before, and so long as its not of the "You're a jerk you should die" variety, without anything to support it, I don't see it as flaming. But whatever. I'm not rewriting anything I had to say, since every word of it was true. It's sort of funny that rather than leaving it and allowing people to draw their own conclusions, my post was removed. Not a surprise, but still funny.

Man they are always trying to nail your tongue down man :). Got a lot of respect for your "tell-it-like-it-is" attitude. Even though you get the smack-down for it. Anyhow keep it up. Keep rocking the boat and someone will get thrown out :)

Later
Nyria.