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Topic subject(AUTO) [FORTRESS] Kelfaren the Legend of the Battlefield
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130866, (AUTO) [FORTRESS] Kelfaren the Legend of the Battlefield
Posted by Death_Angel on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Tue Apr 18 23:39:36 2017

At 6 o'clock PM, Day of the Bull, 8th of the Month of the Dark Shades
on the Theran calendar Kelfaren perished, never to return.
Race:elf
Class:warrior
Level:51
Alignment:Good
Ethos:Chaotic
Cabal:FORTRESS, the Fortress of Light
Age:202
Hours:56
130888, Elf STSF Greeting Sword is a stupid build...
Posted by Tac on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
And while I wasn't overly successful, my gear was mostly crap and I didn't prep for crap or have Maran powers... Even without I beat some people I basically had no reason to defeat with tactics that were... at beast... sub-par.

Please do something about STSF.
130890, STSF's counter is so obvious!
Posted by xrus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Just run from them or die to them. I always do so ;)
130891, Or your could...
Posted by Saagkri on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Wait for them to die ranking or exploring and proudly stand over their corpse.
130892, Or realize he's an elf with no preps..
Posted by Lhydia on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
..and do anything with burst damage to kill him in a round.

At least people have mostly shut up about throw.

OMG THE PLAYER THAT WAS THROWING EVERYONE TO DEATH HAS MOVED ON TO SOMETHING ELSE I GUESS IT ISNT BAD BECAUSE MY ASSASSIN DIED 10 TIMES IN A ROW AND I DELETED LET ME SEE ABOUT THIS STSF NOW. OH WAIT I COULDNT EVEN PK TO GET GEAR AND I ONLY PLAYED ENOUGH TO HERO AND GET STSF AND WIN 2 PK's AGAINST A RUSSIAN NEWBIE BUT NOW I AM EXPERT ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THIS STSF IS JUST WAY OP AND HAS NO COUNTERS AND MUST BE STOPPED. CIRCLE THE WAGONS FIERNDS.
130893, To be honest
Posted by xrus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I am against none of the OP stuff others talk about, even DB. I like them all and I am a fan of CF, probably for them, even if I am on the receiving side most of the times.
130895, I'm with you.
Posted by Lhydia on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
There is no build that is OP against every other build on its own. The only time its an issue is when someone who is active and skilled consistently plays CF and the build in question, whatever it is, begins to shine because of environmental circumstances. People that play OP builds do so because they like to win. If someone truly hates a skill set bad enough the most efficient way of getting rid of it is roll up the class that trumps whatever build in question is dominating and kill them a few times. They will move on to something else they can win with instead. But yes, if you constantly bitch and moan about something in a competitive game do not be surprised when everyone else who wants to win rolls this combination. They aren't doing it because the build is unstoppable, they are doing it because everyone says it is. Usually these people delete pretty quickly after they should have hit their stride and haven't yet.
130896, I'v not had issues with STSF, BUT...
Posted by Saagkri on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Some of that probably comes from the classes I've been playing. But, let's not pretend that CF is some kind of symbiotic masterpiece that is incapable of having a class/skill/spell/edge that is too much of an advantage for those who have it.

It happens, it has happened. I heard the same "stop whining and find the rock to the scissors" argument when air shifters were new, had no lag, ***DEVASTATED*** you every time they swung, and could dodge like fleas.

Then, after a good while, it was discovered that they were overpowered and they were nerfed.

I can see if you countered some of the complaints with specific examples or tactics, but a lot of what I hear to counter the "overpowered" claims are proclamations of faith that nothing is overpowered, you're just CFing wrong.

Hell, remember 'forced dual'??
130897, Force Duel
Posted by Lhydia on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Yeah that was crazy. But said person could still be ganged down if you were motivated enough to set it up.

130898, Um...that's what Rhyaldrin did.
Posted by TMNS on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It's always funny to me that you complain about people complaining :)