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Topic subject(RAGE DELETE) [FORTRESS] Llivivul the Planewalker
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112505, (RAGE DELETE) [FORTRESS] Llivivul the Planewalker
Posted by Death_Angel on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Sun Dec 23 08:22:02 2012

At 7 o'clock AM, Day of Deception, 16th of the Month of the Old Forces
on the Theran calendar Llivivul perished, never to return.
Race:elf
Class:conjurer
Level:51
Alignment:Good
Ethos:Orderly
Cabal:FORTRESS, the Fortress of Light
Age:275
Hours:106
112566, Whoa - Sh!tstorm!!! I haven't read any of this yet - Padwei is NOT at fault here!
Posted by Warren on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
FWIW - I did NOT delete because of the acolyte stuff. Repeat: This has nothing to do with immortal interaction (which I thought was great all along - especially my long bouts with Baerinika)

I deleted because the character wasn't working - I couldn't fulfill the characters mission as it was as a gimped out conjurer. It was the right role, the wrong class, and I constantly felt unprepared for my role.

I could have waited out acolyte - but I honestly just felt better to have a fresh start - the fact that I had 100 hours is the exact reason I felt it was okay to delete.

If I had anymore - I'd start to feel bad for the immortals/people who had really invested work and time into the character..

I will post my official goodbyes AFTER Christmas - as some of us have that kinda stuff to do :P



112513, You're right.
Posted by Padwei on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
You deserved to be an Acolyte. Unfortunately sometimes timing is
everything, and I've been occupied with other things lately. That's
just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Good luck with your next.
112514, Iunna you are a great imm but
Posted by TJHuron on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I have to ask. How much does it really take to make this char an acolyte? A keystroke? Tell me please if there is more to it. I've never played fort.
112515, Yup.
Posted by Padwei on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I like to talk/interact with people about the what/why behind it.
Sounds like that method didn't work out for this character, but I
don't intend on changing how I do things because of it.
112516, RE: Yup.
Posted by CD on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM

So because you did not want to take the time to give them deserved powers that are function of the cabal he joined...

The character got to waste his time?

I dont understand why wasting his time when he deserved the power is fair at all. They are rolepay/basic mechanism of the path he wished to be.

This is why the whole Fortress/tier thing sucks.

Too bad it was too much to let the character Altruism. Right
112519, Oh well.
Posted by Padwei on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
My play times and any given person's play times don't always match
up 100% of the time. That means the amount of time I have to watch
said people is a fair bit less than the time they're putting in.

When looking at who deserves to become Acolyte, it's not as easily
quantified as, say, EPKs. It's looking at overall RP, communication
in the cabal, outside the cabal, actions, etc.

I didn't get to see Llivivul all that much, so my ability to make a
decision over the month this character was alive was somewhat
hamstrung. I did see hints of good things with said character in the
last 10 days, which is why I said it was deserved. But you know,
sometimes I have non-CF things to do (it's a busy time of year,
after all) and that's how it goes.
112517, RE: Yup.
Posted by colospgsbryan on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Isn't this where you as the Imm can sayto another Imm that understands Acolytes, "Hey. Juice this guy for me. Just make sure they understand the implications of being an acolyte." I can't seem to meet up with them with my schedule right now? Or does this sort of thing not work for induct type things?

* No sarcasm here at all, just a question.
112518, RE: Yup.
Posted by Padwei on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Isn't this where you as the Imm can sayto another Imm that
>understands Acolytes,

There isn't really anyone I feel comfortable asking to do what
you're suggesting here.
112520, Trying to not to flame here...
Posted by Tolnum on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Is there a single bigger post that defines the dysfunctional immortal ranks than this?

You can't find the time in a month to interact with the guy, he deletes.

You then say you couldn't make the time, and you don't trust any other immortal to make him an acolyte? Meanwhile other imms are handing out interactions and rewards like candy.

I like that you want it to be more in depth than a simple button click but the problem is this is inconsistent behavior. If all staff had this mentality, I think we wouldn't have an issue. However, when a character can get leader/quest forms in that same month that you couldn't find time to interact, how is this a good experience for the player?

This is exactly why people complain about Baer. She does so well and is so up to date on her followers and interactions, it sets a bar so high that the rest of you are unable or unwilling to reach.
112523, RE: Trying to not to flame here...
Posted by Splntrd on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Firstly, that's not why people complain about Baer.

Secondly, Iunna/Padwei is a volunteer whose interest is liable to wax and wane. There's nothing to help this but simply being understanding of your fellow humans beings. If someone failing to meet an expectation you've set for them kills your fun, fine - but accept and own the fact that that's your doing (with your silly expectations), not an Imm's.

There is no one to blame for what essentially amounts to circumstance - except yourself, if those circumstances bother you.
112527, This is a reply to most posters here:
Posted by Amberion on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
If you guys haven't noticed, Padwei and Iunna are listed as DORMANT.
112529, Well thats what happens when you only have one Acolyte imm. #### happens get over it. nt
Posted by Tesline on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
dop
112543, RE: Trying to not to flame here...
Posted by Malakhi on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM

>I like that you want it to be more in depth than a simple
>button click but the problem is this is inconsistent behavior.
>If all staff had this mentality, I think we wouldn't have an
>issue. However, when a character can get leader/quest forms in
>that same month that you couldn't find time to interact, how
>is this a good experience for the player?


All staff, with respect to Fortess, at least, does have this same mentality.

In general, I think it would be more healthy for you to focus on yourself and your personal improvement, as opposed to complaining about what other deserving people get.
112558, Fair enough. nt
Posted by colospgsbryan on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
112507, Boooooo.
Posted by Duvam on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
You were doing good there for a while. You just needed to hang in there a while and you would have totally made acolyte. A little bit of patience goes a long way. regardless of what you might think on the lines of *I was patient* 106 hours is not patient. :)
GLWYN.
112521, 106 hours is 2 and half weeks of work
Posted by Tolnum on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
or 106 days of an hour a day

how much more time does the player have to invest in CF?
112530, People don't even get Maran until atleast 100 hours in the cabal.
Posted by Tesline on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
The #### you complaining about. I'd say getting acolyte within 106 hours would be a god damn blessing. He gave up too early. Not anyone's fault but his own.