Well, the only reason I usually did well was because I knew how to bide my time and wore a ton of save vs. spell gear *chuckles*. In fact, back in my spectre fighting days, when there was like 6 of you, before I got unemp'd, I specifically carried about 5 extra pieces of svs gear just for fighting you guys and permastoneskin (I popped ss rocks like candy). Everytime I died, there was something really dumb or undruid-esque about the fight. Such as that time when you unghosted, with the gear I left ya, right in front of me, and slept me. Heheheheheheh, didn't anticipate that so soon, but oh well. Druids really aren't meant to charge into the fray guns blazing, as you know its much nastier to just hang low around spectres until a full moon and set a small ambush *cackle*. Don't let anyone fool you, assassinate and pwk have nothing on briartangle/wolverine/the hunt/sunray/call lightning, that's instant death for anyone and anything. Maybe a lich could survive that, but unless they're decked out on resist phylacs or walk around barrier'd everytime they enter the woods, (or I misset the ambush), that isn't going to happen. Most people went down in under 4 rounds, and people with sanc and archons generally took a whole 15 rounds or so (all that pesky fleeing), and anything that can take out a conjie with an archon that is doing its job, is pretty damned nasty.