Yes, I know I probably shouldn't continue the debate, but I'm just going to throw everything out there, for all to see. First, the good. Though most of what I saw was a lot of rage after that binding, I do think Kelin was well-enough played. Never saw any breaks in RP, etc. I always found it amusing, how you and I had such a vicious hatred, based off something that happened maybe six months ago. Calheil always would have been ready to let it drop, but he never would have been the one to back down from it. As the character, I learned cabals pull a lot of leverage in pissing off one pisses off all, which I tried hard to work against. Still, talk about one stubborn giant...I even managed to get a dwarf (Golron) to admit maybe they had better things to do than keep pissing off a neutral thief who'd be willing to help them, if they weren't always trying to kill him.

As for the bad, and it's not really bad, just timing and all...I tend to agree that Kelin probably deserved booting. Not because he couldn't cut it, but looking at the circumstances. If nothing else, the sheer fact that two cabals leaders said they wanted to boot him. The Imms gave them run over the cabal, I don't really see where it's really anyone (even Valg's) place to severely question a decision to remove a member, especially when two of them agree like that. Shokai or Vynny question it? Yeah. Not so much otherwise. Particularly when a cabal is full. It does hurt the cabal, and players wanting to play the cabal. I specifically remember times as Calheil, I thought Kelin died off, or had autodeleted, then being shocked to see him again. Again, not that this is so horribly a BAD thing. People can play uncaballed as well as caballed, and I expect Kelin should have had a good shot to get back in, say near the end when he was playing *more* frequently.

Anyways, all in all I'd have to sum you up as an adept warrior, but yes, not really one to take serious chances. Which is something that I, personally, think hinders a character. Without risk-taking, there's no challenge, no conflict, and you lose out on one of the best ways to make your character memorable. Facing adversity. Anyways, luck with the next one, I have unfortunately finally succumbed to the calling again. ....oh yeah, the ugly? Definately you. It sure wasn't Calheil. Mwahaha!

- Straklaw the Insightful Bandit King...er, no, that's not right...bah, nevermind. It's me, whoever I am.