but you cannot say (well you can i guess):
"I think I saw a total of maybe eight different Shadows in the 280 or so hours I played Carrick, and only half of those advanced past 40."

1) Not many shadows (very few in fact, 8 in 280 hours) with only 50% moving to hero type ranges
1a)Good indication on how many shadows..wannabe shadows saw

"I don't think Shadow Sect powers are too weak, they may ought to be turned up a bit in effectiveness, but I think its pretty obvious that they way they are now isn't bringing the players into the Sect"

1) Player believes there is a problem getting oaths into the sect (and keeping them to hero), the problem COULD be the powers need adjustments.

Solution? when asked for an oath ask for a 100gold?

Do I believe he should and is fully in his rights to ask for that? of course, its why i love empire! Do I think he has a legitimate complaint about lack of shadows after that is done? in my opinion, no.

BUT i will not post again, as I do not wish to muck up his thread any further, apologies Carrick.

ps I saw your immortal comments, nice job!