Heh, yea I meant to say Luck. And yes, we were probably very unlucky as well. That time when you coned me then a round later the sorceress coned me so I ran. I had around 10 hp left. I wasnt going to be able to go back through the sorceress to get out so I just used a field dressing then sat down, right when I saw Someone has arrived. I knew I was screwed. Had there been another option I would have taken it. Swords and whips arent very useful against mages, best against fighter classes I have found. What do you mean stay out of forests? Im really confused. Good luck with Gherian.