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12872, Odd damage not causing correct gain of charges?
Posted by Keshuk on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
This is a fight with Gruntok - I asked him if it was hunger/thirst and he said it was leg pain (crippling strikes ending) doing it. If it's something from crippling strikes, shouldn't I have received a soul echo?


<138/750hp 397/659m 703mv 15347tnl> <3 AM|new> Mystic frost manifests itself at your hands before you send it forth in a frigid explosion of snow and ice.
Your iceball DISMEMBERS someone!
Someone is mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided.
Someone is convulsing on the ground.

<138/750hp 372/659m 703mv 15347tnl> <3 AM|new> c iceball

Lightning flashes in the sky.
You are able to move freely again.
You feel a dark hunger coming over you.
Someone scratches itself.
Someone is DEAD!!

<160/750hp 377/659m 727mv 15347tnl> <4 AM|new> Mystic frost manifests itself at your hands before you send it forth in a frigid explosion of snow and ice.

12879, RE: Odd damage not causing correct gain of charges?
Posted by Zulghinlour on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>This is a fight with Gruntok - I asked him if it was
>hunger/thirst and he said it was leg pain (crippling strikes
>ending) doing it. If it's something from crippling strikes,
>shouldn't I have received a soul echo?

Crippling strike does damage when it lands, not damage over time, so I honestly doubt it was "leg pain". Looks exactly like he died of hunger or thirst, regardless of what he says.
12882, Actual Damage Type
Posted by Straklaw on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
(As an aside, you need more time to play morts again, Zulg!)

If it were hunger/thirst, you'd have seen the echo of "X's hunger scratches him." When a player is beyond "stunned, but will likely recover", and into the "mortally wounded", they take 1hp damage every hour until they'd dead. This looks like you were unlucky enough to put him right around -9hp, and then the tick passed, no extra damage, but since he was mortally wounded, he took the hp damage, and died.
12886, RE: Odd damage not causing correct gain of charges?
Posted by Tahren on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I may be wrong, but if you are mortally wounded "and will die soon if not aided", you take a scratch every tick until you go below some bottom limit of HP. I think it's -10 (maybe?) I don't know the numbers offhand, but that's what this looks like to me.

If he was starving, it would give an echo of that to the room, and "Someone's hunger scratches them" (again, don't have the exact echo in front of me right now)

So it looks like the MUD reads this as Gruntok got the killing blow on himself when it calculates whether to give the AP a charge.

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Your iceball DISMEMBERS someone!
Someone is mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided.
Someone is convulsing on the ground.

<138/750hp 372/659m 703mv 15347tnl> <3 AM|new> c iceball

Lightning flashes in the sky.
You are able to move freely again.
You feel a dark hunger coming over you.
Someone scratches itself.
Someone is DEAD!!
12887, RE: Odd damage not causing correct gain of charges?
Posted by Kalageadon on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I think he died of none of the above... because he is mortally wounded and that means that he will hit himself to death even if he isn't hungry or thirsty. My 2 cents is it was just good timing on his part, or bad timing on the attackers part depending on whose view your looking from. Where as the fallen killed himself not allowing the a-p to get counted for the kill.
12888, RE: Odd damage not causing correct gain of charges?
Posted by Marcus_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It was probably his way of saying that it was the "mortally wounded" damage that killed him in an IC way... Either that, or he was mistaken.

12893, No hunger/thirst echo
Posted by Gruntok on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I think what everyone else said is probably the reason - mortal wound on tick killed me. Bad luck on your part, Keshuk.

<49hp 401m 112mv>
Keshuk utters the words, 'uqzbarr'.
Mystic frost manifests itself at Keshuk's hands before he sends it forth in a frigid explosion of snow and ice.
Keshuk's iceball DISMEMBERS you!
You are mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided.

<-10hp 401m 0mv>
Your leg feels more sturdy and able to support your weight.
You scratch yourself.
You have been KILLED!!

You have died, but the Carrion Fields are not finished with you yet!
Your soul is returned to the realms in the form of a ghost.
You will return to your corporeal state in a short while.
Be careful, for even a ghost should fear some dangers!