Aereglen | Fri 16-Sep-16 01:42 PM |
Member since 23rd Apr 2011
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#64942, "False."
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>False. It is a solid argument and it can be remedied by diminishing the sum of advantages a vet can gather over newbies.
False. It is not a solid argument. In fact many vets didn't spend any time farming those edge points anyway. Players like shamanman are notorious for rushing to hero and bringing a lot of action to the hero range. Even without those edge points they still kicked a lot of ass.
>Or it can have the exact opposite effect: as one realize how complicated and time consuming is this game, it is likely (and I suspect it is why playerbase is going down) he'll go somewhere else where he feels he can do more than just not dying to pk fights...
Like I said, those players could look at the vets who didn't farm the edge points ans till end up being some of the toughest characters. It would show them if you want to really be deadly you need to focus on things like timing and strategy rather than farming/grinding. Because until someone knows timing and tactics, no amount of edge points are going to help them land PKs.
>I've been playing CF for almost 10 years and I rarely seen vets taking time to run newbies around... I think it's better to bet on making the game a bit less complicated to attract new players
I've been playing since 1997, and I've had my newbie hands lead around the game lots of times and many of those times the person showing me around was an obvious vet. About half of those times we were evil too. Taking out a few edge points wouldn't exactly make the game less complicated, since they're still edges.
>False: there's a lot of positive comments on the change. With all the classes, races, legacies, virtues, thief points, etc. we have plenty of customization available. I don't think losing the customization possibilities offered by edges is up to the benefits it can bring to player base. Not only newbies will find it less complicated but there's vet who, like myself, find it very interesting not having to see the same room/mob again and again to gather edges points.
That is not entirely true. Yes there was a lot of positive comments, but there was also a lot of negative comments and even some players stopped playing all together because of the changes. There is a lot of customization available, yes, but there are also six classes with absolutely no way to customize outside of role and descriptions. And people need to stop saying they "have" to grind and farm every possible edge point possible. Nobody ever put a gun to anyone's head and said farm these points or you die. Having two more edges than other people is not that big of a deal. You can play priests now without needing empowerment but there are penalties. By your logic those penalties should not be there, like the edge points shouldn't be there available to be farmed. But I don't hear anyone making a plight to get the imms to remove those penalties. In fact people seem quite happy about having the option.
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Edgepoints
[View all] , Sarien, Wed 14-Sep-16 09:05 AM
Hehehe, like there's new players. There's no one left b...,
Serial Ranger,
16-Oct-16 11:02 PM, #74
There are new players.,
Aereglen,
17-Oct-16 12:00 AM, #75
Of course,
vorian,
19-Oct-16 06:58 PM, #76
RE: Edgepoints,
Bemused,
22-Sep-16 12:50 AM, #49
Well done Umi !,
vorian,
15-Sep-16 09:22 PM, #25
False.,
Aereglen,
16-Sep-16 01:42 PM #31
Try to see it my way?,
vorian,
17-Sep-16 10:53 PM, #33
Conversely,
incognito,
18-Sep-16 01:28 AM, #34
RE: Conversely,
Destuvius,
18-Sep-16 05:24 AM, #35
Fighter, Cleric, Mage, Thief.,
Murphy,
18-Sep-16 06:58 AM, #36
DWARF CLERIC IN MASTER PLZ AND THX. NT,
TMNS,
18-Sep-16 08:35 PM, #37
Did somebody say...,
Umiron,
18-Sep-16 09:01 PM, #39
Slander and falsehoods.,
Jormyr,
18-Sep-16 11:48 PM, #40
Cock-tease :) NT,
TMNS,
19-Sep-16 01:51 PM, #43
I thought the same.,
Aereglen,
19-Sep-16 03:36 PM, #46
Umiron, I have to say....,
Doof,
20-Sep-16 04:50 AM, #47
This is already too much fluff...,
vorian,
18-Sep-16 08:58 PM, #38
RE: Conversely,
incognito,
19-Sep-16 03:22 PM, #45
Seriously...,
vorian,
22-Sep-16 05:30 PM, #50
RE: Seriously...,
incognito,
23-Sep-16 03:51 AM, #56
The absurdity here...,
vorian,
23-Sep-16 05:05 PM, #57
RE: The absurdity here...,
incognito,
24-Sep-16 02:59 PM, #58
Apparently,
vorian,
25-Sep-16 10:01 PM, #60
RE: Apparently,
incognito,
26-Sep-16 10:40 AM, #64
Obviously,
vorian,
29-Sep-16 05:08 PM, #65
RE: Obviously,
Kstatida,
29-Sep-16 06:11 PM, #66
You did it again,
vorian,
29-Sep-16 07:17 PM, #67
RE: You did it again,
Kstatida,
30-Sep-16 06:02 AM, #68
My name is Kstatida,
vorian,
30-Sep-16 07:34 AM, #69
Being someone's muse, I feel accomplished,
Kstatida,
30-Sep-16 08:02 AM, #70
RE: Well done Umi !,
Sarien,
19-Sep-16 12:53 PM, #41
RE: Well done Umi !,
Kstatida,
19-Sep-16 01:33 PM, #42
Some food for thought,
Destuvius,
19-Sep-16 01:55 PM, #44
Newbies, low and medium skilled players,
vorian,
22-Sep-16 06:18 PM, #51
Wat? Does that mean I'm a vet now?,
Murphy,
22-Sep-16 09:31 PM, #52
No you're OOP...,
vorian,
25-Sep-16 09:55 PM, #59
I can live with that.,
Murphy,
25-Sep-16 10:26 PM, #61
Actually this post is a counter example to itself,
KaguMaru,
26-Sep-16 09:47 AM, #62
Are you saying ,
vorian,
03-Oct-16 07:08 PM, #71
It's all the same,
Kstatida,
04-Oct-16 01:08 AM, #73
RE: Newbies, low and medium skilled players,
incognito,
26-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #63
Same as above to KaguMaru,
vorian,
03-Oct-16 07:12 PM, #72
I like the changes Umiron made.,
TMNS,
15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #18
Edge points from dying?,
Marcus_,
14-Sep-16 08:01 PM, #11
Define the degree?,
lasentia,
14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #4
This,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #5
Back in the day when you got EP for every 500 explore,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 11:14 AM, #6
that's an interesting theory,
lasentia,
14-Sep-16 12:06 PM, #9
Tail started to wag the dog.,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 12:19 PM, #10
Lol, I wasn't that serious.,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 09:00 PM, #12
In so many ways, this.,
Jormyr,
14-Sep-16 11:54 PM, #13
RE: In so many ways, this.,
Andrlos,
15-Sep-16 01:22 AM, #14
I've done something similar on a few occasions,
Destuvius,
15-Sep-16 05:18 AM, #15
The instant you make the reward more than flair,
lasentia,
15-Sep-16 08:32 AM, #16
I wonder why do you play this game,
Kstatida,
15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #19
Hey welcome back! NT,
TMNS,
15-Sep-16 10:36 AM, #17
Good to be back.,
Andrlos,
15-Sep-16 11:58 AM, #20
10 years? ####, I hate myself now :).,
TMNS,
22-Sep-16 10:08 PM, #53
only 10?,
laxman,
22-Sep-16 11:04 PM, #54
You don't remember I used to make fun of you guys for p...,
TMNS,
22-Sep-16 11:51 PM, #55
It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge poi...,
-flso,
15-Sep-16 07:02 PM, #22
Do you even play CF anymore?,
Destuvius,
15-Sep-16 07:49 PM, #23
I don't play anymore,
-flso,
20-Sep-16 08:24 PM, #48
RE: It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge...,
Demos,
15-Sep-16 09:13 PM, #24
Discussing things doesn't take much time,
Kstatida,
16-Sep-16 01:05 AM, #26
RE: Discussing things doesn't take much time,
Demos,
16-Sep-16 07:42 AM, #27
Oh,
Kstatida,
16-Sep-16 08:52 AM, #28
Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your ass...,
-flso,
15-Sep-16 03:30 PM, #21
RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your...,
Kstatida,
16-Sep-16 08:53 AM, #29
He _IS_ the most relentless PKer around,
Murphy,
16-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #30
RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your...,
incognito,
17-Sep-16 02:36 AM, #32
But warren claims it's a good change.,
Aereglen,
14-Sep-16 10:13 AM, #1
It is. No doubt IMMS will find a balanced solution, as ...,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 10:31 AM, #2
Don't count on it.,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 11:19 AM, #8
However, the only really bad thing is...,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #3
Actually, shapeshifters are the least screwed.,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 11:16 AM, #7
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