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-flsoMon 14-Dec-15 07:06 PM
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#61957, "I think you are wrong in your assumptions"
Edited on Mon 14-Dec-15 07:07 PM

          

Edges clearly from the moment they were introduced, went a lot further
than just enticing ppl to use different skills.

They *changed the way classes played, and in some cases this happened in a major way*.

To me they always felt like a compromise to changing the classes themselves. It is easier to introduce changes with edges, see how they work out in practice, and maybe in the future roll them into the class (or not), than go in and change the class outright.

A lot of the class mechanics were downright broken and edges helped a lot with this.
Some mechanics are still broken (and a few edges broke some of their own), but hey, they're fewer than before so overall I'd say the edge changes have been overwhelmingly positive.

If someone removed all edges right now, you'd end up with a broken game.

Forget the complicated stuff that Isildur is proposing, the following (2) steps would introduce a lot more FUN in CF:

+ Find ways to make edges *easier to get* without tedium, not harder, across the board for everyone.
+ Play around with edges a lot more, meaning code new ones/remove existing ones that are deemed broken and so on. The barrier to entry for this is low.





  

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HOT TopicIs it just me? [View all] , demon, Fri 11-Dec-15 06:12 PM
Reply Any cons to age based edgepoint accumulation?, Saagkri, 16-Dec-15 06:36 AM, #41
Reply Just eliminate Obs/Explore already., lasentia, 16-Dec-15 08:08 AM, #42
     Reply No, Kstatida, 16-Dec-15 10:50 AM, #43
     Reply There are much better reasons to explore than obs/exp X..., Homard, 16-Dec-15 11:35 AM, #46
     Reply The problem is those incentives don't work that well, Kstatida, 16-Dec-15 12:14 PM, #47
     Reply RE: No, Saagkri, 16-Dec-15 12:31 PM, #48
          Reply You will hear a buzzer. When you hear the buzzer, stare..., Murphy, 16-Dec-15 12:45 PM, #49
          Reply RE: No, Isildur, 16-Dec-15 01:34 PM, #51
          Reply Your reasons are totally valid as well, Kstatida, 16-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #52
               Reply You argue that everyone should be subject to the grind ..., Saagkri, 16-Dec-15 02:42 PM, #53
               Reply I argue that obs/exp is a good incentive for new player..., Kstatida, 17-Dec-15 09:21 AM, #55
               Reply Enjoy remaining average at best, lasentia, 17-Dec-15 07:45 AM, #54
                    Reply Skill>gear>preps>skill%s>edges, Kstatida, 17-Dec-15 09:36 AM, #56
     Reply RE: Just eliminate Obs/Explore already., Isildur, 16-Dec-15 11:08 AM, #44
     Reply i use that exp to rank, laxman, 16-Dec-15 11:20 AM, #45
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Borkahd, 13-Dec-15 03:18 PM, #31
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 06:50 AM, #10
Reply Edges, Saagkri, 12-Dec-15 09:26 AM, #12
Reply RE: Edges, Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 09:43 AM, #13
Reply Oops. Speaking generic IMM re: the rewards, not directe..., Saagkri, 12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #15
Reply Nice cover-up attempt., TMNS, 12-Dec-15 10:18 PM, #28
     Reply Did I miss something as to who Destuvius is? NT, Onewingedangel, 14-Dec-15 04:30 PM, #32
          Reply No, Sam is just being Sam. (nt), Umiron, 14-Dec-15 05:05 PM, #33
               Reply Ah, figures. , Onewingedangel, 14-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #34
               Reply Well...who am I supposed to be? NT, TMNS, 15-Dec-15 12:28 AM, #37
Reply This., Murphy, 12-Dec-15 10:48 AM, #17
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Isildur, 12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #16
Reply Edges are one of the stupidest CF ideas ever. NT, TMNS, 12-Dec-15 02:00 AM, #6
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Isildur, 12-Dec-15 12:32 AM, #5
Reply Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, -flso, 12-Dec-15 07:49 AM, #11
     Reply RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, Isildur, 12-Dec-15 10:22 AM, #14
     Reply RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 12:25 PM, #18
     Reply Probably wants others to experience what he does so the..., Lhydia, 12-Dec-15 12:56 PM, #19
     Reply Just for you..., Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 01:02 PM, #20
     Reply Hey buddy..lets not bring facts into this argument. <3 ..., Lhydia, 12-Dec-15 01:23 PM, #23
          Reply My bad.., Destuvius, 13-Dec-15 12:15 PM, #29
     Reply RE: Probably wants others to experience what he does so..., Umiron, 12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #22
          Reply Request and question:, Iunna, 12-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #25
               Reply RE: Request and question:, Umiron, 12-Dec-15 02:14 PM, #26
     Reply It's nowhere near consistent., Murphy, 12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #21
     Reply RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, Isildur, 12-Dec-15 02:16 PM, #27
     Reply RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, Saagkri, 16-Dec-15 01:13 PM, #50
     Reply Not keen, incognito, 12-Dec-15 01:39 PM, #24
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Umiron, 11-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Is it just me?, demon, 11-Dec-15 07:10 PM, #2
     Reply I'll bite, Sertius, 11-Dec-15 09:26 PM, #3
     Reply Imo, incognito, 12-Dec-15 03:38 AM, #7
     Reply Saying "must have", incognito, 12-Dec-15 03:43 AM, #8
     Reply RE: I'll bite, Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 06:43 AM, #9
          Reply My take on the Edge dilemma., Quixotic, 13-Dec-15 01:48 PM, #30
          Reply I think you are wrong in your assumptions, -flso, 14-Dec-15 07:07 PM #35
          Reply Cyradia's post introducing edges:, Quixotic, 14-Dec-15 10:28 PM, #36
               Reply This wasn't the start of edges though..., Elerosse, 15-Dec-15 08:45 PM, #38
          Reply This guy gets it. n/t, Eskelian, 15-Dec-15 09:05 PM, #39
          Reply RE: I'll bite, Eskelian, 15-Dec-15 09:07 PM, #40
     Reply What edges do you need to compete?, laxman, 11-Dec-15 10:13 PM, #4
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